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greg0205

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I know we've discussed Arthur Jones, an actual nazi, running for election in November before... Here's an MSNBC segment from earlier today where Jones is the *second* most awful candidate on the GOP ticket.

Enjoy

[video=youtube;ZEv12PPR1Jk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv12PPR1Jk[/video]
 

OrbitalDawn

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This is a great idea and something they should have done a looooong time ago.

One Reform to Save America

The good news is that we don’t have to live with this system. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says there have to be only two parties. There’s nothing in the Constitution about parties at all. There’s not even anything in the Constitution mandating that each congressional district have only one member and be represented by one party. We could have a much fairer and better system with the passage of a law.

The way to do that is through multimember districts and ranked-choice voting. In populous states, the congressional districts would be bigger, with around three to five members per district. Voters would rank the candidates on the ballot. If no candidate had a majority of first-place votes, then the candidate with the fewest first-place votes would be eliminated. Voters who preferred that candidate would have their second-choice vote counted instead. The process would be repeated until you get your winners.

This system makes it much easier for third and fourth parties to form, because voting for a third party no longer means voting for one with no chance of winning. You get a much more supple representation of the different political tendencies that actually exist in the country.

The process also means that people with minority views in their region have a greater chance to be represented in Congress. A district in Southern California, for example, might elect a Bernie Sanders-type progressive, a centrist business Democrat and a conservative.
 

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ohen-make-unhinged-threats-to-a-reporter.html

“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very ****ing lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be ****ing disgusting. You understand me?”

Now NPR has published the audio.

what a piece of work
 

The_Assimilator

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This is a great idea and something they should have done a looooong time ago.

One Reform to Save America

The Maine GOP turned to the courts to get ranked-choice declared illegal - the reason, quite obviously, is because they know they'll lose in such a system. Thankfully, they got smacked down; the results of that primary will surely be interesting, especially since the current GOP governor won with under 40% of the vote.

However, I doubt that such a system will catch on elsewhere; in Maine the proponents of ranked-choice had to use every method at their disposal to ensure the GOP legislature abided by the decision to use ranked-choice, even then the GOP still went to court, and the Maine GOP candidates are refusing to say whether they'll accept the results from a ranked-choice election. Other GOP-controlled states don't have constructs like the People's Veto that Maine's voters used to force the GOP to accept the will of the people, so in those states the GOP will use its standard tactic of making such a fair system illegal to ensure they can't lose.

So yeah... great system in principle that would go a long way to solving the toxic partisanship that has permeated American politics, but not likely to be widely adopted in practice.
 

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^ Yeah, there's very little political will to fix any of the structural issues in their politics.
 

cerebus

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President genius brags about seeing the jobs numbers ahead of the official announcement.

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NarrowBandFtw

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Indeed i do but this isn't about him being 100% right or 100% wrong, its about his usual retarded political rhetoric.
Meh, Randhir was specifically talking about his hypocrisy (or flip-flopping, who knows).

I'm merely agreeing and taking the opportunity to point out those figures really are BS.
 
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