US protests/riots 2020

[copacetic]

Truly, what a bunch of idiots. And this is who Kamala Harris says are the good guys. Deliberately interfering with and harassing cops trying to do their duty.

So, I was curious to find some evidence that she supports extreme far-left groups, and this the best I could come up with:

When this article was originally published, there was no mention of the arrest:

In this article, Chamu is portrayed as a victim of the system because his financial aid does not fully cover the cost of his housing. In the original version of the article there was no mention of his affiliation with the domestic extremist movement, Antifa, and nothing about his recent arrests. Shortly after we reported on this, the article was later updated with the following editors note:

4:05 p.m.: This article has been updated to include details of Ismael’s arrest last year on vandalism charges. He has pleaded not guilty and has not been convicted.

It is unlikely that Kamala Harris knew about Chamu’s arrests or affiliation with domestic extremist groups when she made this tweet but this is an important lesson on the role our elected officials and the media play in shaping societal narratives. Would the author of the LA Times article have even made the update if people familiar with Ismael had not contacted her? Not likely. And that is troubling. Will Kamala Harris rescind her support of far left-extremists like Ismael? Ask her.

There are two possibilities here - One is that she read the article prior to the update (I am aware that it was updated prior to her tweet, but bookmarks, etc - I also assume she has social media people that find stuff for her...), and the other is that she read the updated article, which added:

He also has had recent trouble with the law. Last year, he was arrested and charged with felony vandalism and possession of tools to commit vandalism or graffiti in an incident involving the spray-painting of several cars, fences and buildings in Berkeley. Local news outlets ran photos of graffiti that included anti-white and anti-police slogans. Ismael denies involvement and has pleaded not guilty.

The next court date is next month, and he has expressed hope that he can put the case behind him.

“I’ve fallen a lot, but I’ve always gotten up,” he says of his problems.

Which does not exactly paint a picture of an insane antifa hero-figure in any event. He is probably nuts, sure, but how was she to know?

That said, can you actually back up your assertion that she broadly supports people who want to fight the cops and the like?

 

[SoldierMan]

So, I was curious to find some evidence that she supports extreme far-left groups, and this the best I could come up with:

When this article was originally published, there was no mention of the arrest:



There are two possibilities here - One is that she read the article prior to the update (I am aware that it was updated prior to her tweet, but bookmarks, etc - I also assume she has social media people that find stuff for her...), and the other is that she read the updated article, which added:



Which does not exactly paint a picture of an insane antifa hero-figure in any event. He is probably nuts, sure, but how was she to know?

That said, can you actually back up your assertion that she broadly supports people who want to fight the cops and the like?

There's a video in which she states that the riots that are currently taking place in America will, and must continue, now and after the election. That is pretty well supporting the riots.

The video was posted here on MyBB not long ago. I believe it was a left leaning media house.

 

[copacetic]

There's a video in which she states that the riots that are currently taking place in America will, and must continue, now and after the election. That is pretty well supporting the riots.

The video was posted here on MyBB not long ago. I believe it was a left leaning media house.

Well, I'm convinced. As I've not seen the video, I can't comment on whatever it was she said, but I am curious: Do you differentiate between BLM protests and rioting maniacs?

 

[SoldierMan]

Well, I'm convinced. As I've not seen the video, I can't comment on whatever it was she said, but I am curious: Do you differentiate between BLM protests and rioting maniacs?

She supported what was happening in the streets of America and said it should continue.

How do you know that BLM don't riot? Do you have some insider knowledge?

What about all the videos doing the rounds where BLM members kick cars of people they deem to be conservative, intimidate people, break windows, burn down buildings, or just being maniacs in general? Do we just ignore those?

 

[copacetic]

She supported what was happening in the streets of America and said it should continue.

How do you know that BLM don't riot? Do you have some insider knowledge?

What about all the videos doing the rounds where BLM members kick cars of people they deem to be conservative, intimidate people, break windows, burn down buildings, or just being maniacs in general? Do we just ignore those?

Where did I say that? I asked if you differentiate between protests and riots, as in a large group, it is obvious that you can have some people who are there to protest peacefully and others who are there to burn **** down.

What follows, then, is that there's nothing unreasonable about supporting the former while condemning the latter.

Also:

Fact check: Kamala Harris said protests aren't going to stop, but condemns violence

Based on our research, the claim that Kamala Harris said riots will not and should not stop is PARTLY FALSE. It's true that Harris told Stephen Colbert that she believes protests against racism are "not gonna stop," and said that she supports protesters. But that exchange does not discuss riots, and she has condemned the acts of violence and looting that turned some protests into riots.

 

[SoldierMan]

Where did I say that? I asked if you differentiate between protests and riots, as in a large group, it is obvious that you can have some people who are there to protest peacefully and others who are there to burn **** down.

What follows, then, is that there's nothing unreasonable about supporting the former while condemning the latter.

Funny that you are defending her, and putting words in her mouth for a video that you haven't even watched! Like speaking on her behalf do you??

Yeah no bias on your part You just assume what she was saying......

 

[copacetic]

Funny that you are defending her, and putting words in her mouth for a video that you haven't even watched! Like speaking on her behalf do you??

Yeah no bias on your part You just assume what she was saying......

See my edit please.

I also note that you make a lot of claims without providing any evidence for them, and you accuse me of bias? If Harris, or anyone else, supports RIOTS, I'd be the first to condemn them...

 

[wbot]

Terrorists bomb Starbucks

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312623107182534656

 

[wbot]

See my edit please.

I also note that you make a lot of claims without providing any evidence for them, and you accuse me of bias? If Harris, or anyone else, supports RIOTS, I'd be the first to condemn them...

Whether she knows it or not, with her help violent rioters are continuously bailed out and put back on the streets to continue their violence and destruction:

As Joe Biden Condemns Rioters And Looters, Kamala Harris Continues To Support Group That Bails Out Suspected Violent Criminals - The Jewish Voice

Andrew Kerr(DCNY) Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris continues to actively raise money for a Minnesota group that has bailed out several suspects charged with violent felonies, including murder and sex crimes. Harris called on her followers to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund...

thejewishvoice.com

And that includes murderers, rapists and child molestors.

She wants violent people arrested during these riots for valid reasons to be bailed out again

 

[SoldierMan]

Terrorists bomb Starbucks

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312623107182534656

"Mostly Peaceful" protesters as usual The broken windows and attempted fire starting? No, Joe says that's just an idea.

 

[copacetic]

Whether she knows it or not, with her help violent rioters are continuously bailed out and put back on the streets to continue their violence and destruction:

As Joe Biden Condemns Rioters And Looters, Kamala Harris Continues To Support Group That Bails Out Suspected Violent Criminals - The Jewish Voice

Andrew Kerr(DCNY) Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris continues to actively raise money for a Minnesota group that has bailed out several suspects charged with violent felonies, including murder and sex crimes. Harris called on her followers to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund...

thejewishvoice.com

And that includes murderers, rapists and child molestors.

She wants violent people arrested during these riots for valid reasons to be bailed out again

A) "whether she knows it or not" is somewhat relevant here, considering persistent claims that appear to be a bit of a fever-dream about who and what she supports in this respect.
B) Just so I understand - Is your attitude towards justice that only people who can personally afford bail are entitled to the fruits of whatever decision was made by the courts? That is... I don't really know what to say to that.

 

[wbot]

A) "whether she knows it or not" is somewhat relevant here, considering persistent claims that appear to be a bit of a fever-dream about who and what she supports in this respect.
B) Just so I understand - Is your attitude towards justice that only people who can personally afford bail are entitled to the fruits of whatever decision was made by the courts? That is... I don't really know what to say to that.

I don't think any of these people should get bail. Look what they're doing. A lot (if not most or even all) of those arrested and then bailed out immediately goes back to rioting. Some of those arrested during protests have gone on to kill like Michael Reinoehl. Some of these criminals' bail are set between $200000 and $1million which just goes to show the seriousness of their crimes and still they get bailed out almost immediately.

Not to mention the DA releases most of these criminals without any bail whatsoever.

And as for Kamala, doesn't really matter whether she knows the kind of people she helps to get out of jail. The whole purpose of the fund she supports is to bail criminals out of jail. The ones who are not released without bail, or the more serious criminals. That's 100% the only purpose of the fund. The money is used to get criminals back on the streets and back to rioting. They've raised millions.

 

[copacetic]

I don't think any of these people should get bail. Look what they're doing. A lot (if not most or even all) of those arrested and then bailed out immediately goes back to rioting. Some of those arrested during protests have gone on to kill like Michael Reinoehl. Some of these criminals' bail are set between $200000 and $1million which just goes to show the seriousness of their crimes and still they get bailed out almost immediately.

Not to mention the DA releases most of these criminals without any bail whatsoever.

And as for Kamala, doesn't really matter whether she knows the kind of people she helps to get out of jail. The whole purpose of the fund she supports is to bail criminals out of jail. The ones who are not released without bail, or the more serious criminals. That's 100% the only purpose of the fund. The money is used to get criminals back on the streets and back to rioting. They've raised millions.

It sounds like you have a problem with the bail system in the USA, not Harris. It is, of course, perfectly reasonable to desire reforms to the system, but that's kind of the point: the system is broken and not equitable as things stand. Why should the rich have a way out, but you're ****ed if you don't have the money? That's some fascist **** right there.

 

[ponder]

It sounds like you have a problem with the bail system in the USA, not Harris. It is, of course, perfectly reasonable to desire reforms to the system, but that's kind of the point: the system is broken and not equitable as things stand. Why should the rich have a way out, but you're ****ed if you don't have the money? That's some fascist **** right there.

BS She's in support of higher bail, this recent thing of hers is just her jumping on the bandwagon to score points.

You can go listen to her own words here https://freebeacon.com/politics/kam...ng-bail-costs-a-priority-as-san-francisco-da/

She'll change her mind to suite the narrative and flip flop like a fish.

 

[Pegasus]

Time for a flashback

 

[copacetic]

BS She's in support of higher bail, this recent thing of hers is just her jumping on the bandwagon to score points.

You can go listen to her own words here https://freebeacon.com/politics/kam...ng-bail-costs-a-priority-as-san-francisco-da/

She'll change her mind to suite the narrative and flip flop like a fish.

Please keep in mind that this is in the context of a discussion where the main theme was Harris and Biden supporting and/or not condemning violent rioters, with no evidence provided for the claims at the time.

Her sincerity is not particularly relevant to me in that context; I was occupied with trying to understand the basis on which these assertions were founded.

 

[access]

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President Biden and Vice President Harris promised to move quickly to deliver results for working families. That’s what they’ve done.

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antifa.com ...i mean

 

[Flanders]

The White House

President Biden and Vice President Harris promised to move quickly to deliver results for working families. That’s what they’ve done.

antifa.com

...i mean

 

[access]

come on man.

no thanks. i say thee nay.

 

[Pegasus]