VDSL router(s)

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steel_dog said:
Cool. Thanks for that. Quite steep tho :). Guess I'm gonna have to dig deep. SA price is going to be scary.
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Yep, it will. I went into Incredible Corruption earlier this evening and saw that they had the D6200 for R3,699.00, so yes, one can only imagine what the D6400 will retail at.

BTW, I see the Web Antics has it for R2,576.64, however I've never ever shopped there before so I can't vouch for them: link
 
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So, my line has managed to synch with my Netgear D6400, i.e. the DSL LED stops flashing and is now a solid green.

However, now I can't connect to the Internet (the Internet LED is solid amber instead of solid green). I've checked my ISP login details and they're correct.

Since I flashed the latest firmware last night, I'm now considering resetting the D6400 to its default settings and using the Netgear Genie wizard to help set up my Internet connection.
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So, I did the factory reset and....IT WORKED!!!! :woot:
 
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ripclaw said:
Yep, it will. I went into Incredible Corruption earlier this evening and saw that they had the D6200 for R3,699.00, so yes, one can only imagine what the D6400 will retail at.

BTW, I see the Web Antics has it for R2,576.64, however I've never ever shopped there before so I can't vouch for them: link
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Neat. Thanks for that. Will check it out.
Great that you got your connection working.
Once you've run it through its paces, post your thoughts here. Will be really helpful.
I'm particularly keen to see how the WiFi performs.
 
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Hi Guys,

So between the TP-Link W9980 Dual band and the Billion Triple WAN B-7800DXL, which would be the better option? Couple of Rands difference on Takelot.com. I need a dual band to get XBOXOne off the internet signal for TV and laptops/tablets. Will either of these really make a big difference? I currently have a flaky Buffalo 300MBps I have to restart every day...

http://www.takealot.com/tp-link-adsl2-dual-band-wi-fi-gigabit-router/PLID34147435

http://www.takealot.com/billion-wireless-n-triple-wan-dual-band-600mbps-3g-4g-lte-adsl2/PLID34201269

txs much!
 
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tjomma said:
Hi Guys,
So between the TP-Link W9980 Dual band and the Billion Triple WAN B-7800DXL, which would be the better option? Couple of Rands
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If you're looking for a VDSL device, then the Billion is out. It's
 
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txs Steel_dog! I was leaning towards the TP link...but Takelot has now delivered the wrong model twice...let's hope 3rd time lucky!
 
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Charly said:
Modems and routers are not the same thing but these days they're used interchangeably. If my understanding is correct: router directs traffic on the network that needs to go to the internet to the modem and then the modem converts the computer's signals so that they can be sent over the communication media that your internet connection uses.
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These days? always been that way bro, perhaps its primary function should be what its called. Most ADSL boxes are routers that have modems built in, therefore its a Router. It its working in PPPoE mode, then its only a doff modem then you can call it a modem. Its like calling a Spade a Spade

Excuse my drivel, just trying to get my post count up so I can place some ads :eek:
 
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I bought the Asus DSL-N17U yesterday, cost ~R1250. I think it's worth considering if you want a fairly priced Asus product. ADSL setup was quick and easy.
 
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Hi guys

i am upgrading to vdsl and want to know between the Zyxel sbg 3300 and the Asus DSL-N66U Dual-Band which one will be a better choice
 
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i am upgrading to vdsl and want to know between the Zyxel sbg 3300 and the Asus DSL-N66U Dual-Band which one will be a better choice
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I have the DSL-N66U - a rock-solid device. I was quite surprised that their most recent firmwares support local ISPs (Vox etc) out of the box. Asus seems to update firmware every few months as well.
 
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I wanted to get the Billion B-8800NXL, which seems to have a lot of admirers and offers some future proofing (my current router is so old and might be the cause of really annoying micro disconnects I've been having) but it seems to be unavailable. Wootware suggested the ASUS DSL-AC68U in its place but it's 4 times as expensive. Is there another option similar to the Billion's specs and it's price?
 
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I wanted to get the Billion B-8800NXL, which seems to have a lot of admirers and offers some future proofing (my current router is so old and might be the cause of really annoying micro disconnects I've been having) but it seems to be unavailable. Wootware suggested the ASUS DSL-AC68U in its place but it's 4 times as expensive. Is there another option similar to the Billion's specs and it's price?
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I've used the Billion 8800NXL and Zyxel VMG1312-B10A and they are much of a muchness in terms of poor WiFi. They share the same broadcomm chipset, so suffer from the same erratic latency on WiFi. Given that they're both suffering from the same iffy WiFi coverage (poor signal strength and erratic and high latency when pinging the gateway), the remaining items are a) quality of modem and b) feature set.
The Billion, in my opinion, wins.
  • The Billion interface isn't as feature rich as the Zyxel, but it works. Zyxel has some bugs.
  • Both will do dnsmasq type functionality so that' a win if you need it.
  • Billion 3G failover is miles better. This is poor on the Zyxel. Takes ages to switchover and the connectivity speeds are awful. Zyxel say only the cards on their list are known to work. Mine's a pretty common Hauwei so it should work. Anyway.
  • Billion VDSL modem is rock solid. It also allows you to have multiple VDSL connections configured at the same time. So super easy to switch to another ISP. The same is available on the Zyxel but more primitive.
  • Billion has one 1Gb Ethernet port. Zyxel (model quoted) has none.
  • Support on both actually sucks. Billion's is marginally worse actually. With them you have to request firmware downloads :(. The tech doesn't know anything about the modem. The prior person did. With Zyxel everything is - well it depends on interference. Well my Netgear, which died, didn't have any such issues :). Also the Zyxel is known to be unusable out the box. It needs a firmware upgrade. Oh yeah ... and if you encounter any issues on the Zyxel they ask you to re-setup from scratch rather than reloading a saved config. Clearly not confident in their software ;).

So I've bought an RT-AC68U in an attempt to resolve poor WiFi coverage / latency issues.
Costs as much as the DSL-AC68U, but it's nice having separate devices.
Managed to link them via WDS. Works ok'ish. Get up to 20mbps but it's erratic. Still trying to get it to work in a more stable manner. If I can't I'll link them up wired. But for now I'm trying.

Hope that helps.

Rgds,
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After I pointed out the price difference wootware offered up...

D-Link DSL-2750U - Nice price but no future proofing.
P-LINK Archer D7 AC1750 - Almost as expensive as the Asus but if it's good (is it?) I'd be set for the future.

Hmm...
 
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steel_dog said:
I've used the Billion 8800NXL and Zyxel VMG1312-B10A and they are much of a muchness in terms of poor WiFi. They share the same broadcomm chipset, so suffer from the same erratic latency on WiFi. Given that they're both suffering from the same iffy WiFi coverage (poor signal strength and erratic and high latency when pinging the gateway), the remaining items are a) quality of modem and b) feature set.
The Billion, in my opinion, wins.
  • The Billion interface isn't as feature rich as the Zyxel, but it works. Zyxel has some bugs.
  • Both will do dnsmasq type functionality so that' a win if you need it.
  • Billion 3G failover is miles better. This is poor on the Zyxel. Takes ages to switchover and the connectivity speeds are awful. Zyxel say only the cards on their list are known to work. Mine's a pretty common Hauwei so it should work. Anyway.
  • Billion VDSL modem is rock solid. It also allows you to have multiple VDSL connections configured at the same time. So super easy to switch to another ISP. The same is available on the Zyxel but more primitive.
  • Billion has one 1Gb Ethernet port. Zyxel (model quoted) has none.
  • Support on both actually sucks. Billion's is marginally worse actually. With them you have to request firmware downloads :(. The tech doesn't know anything about the modem. The prior person did. With Zyxel everything is - well it depends on interference. Well my Netgear, which died, didn't have any such issues :). Also the Zyxel is known to be unusable out the box. It needs a firmware upgrade. Oh yeah ... and if you encounter any issues on the Zyxel they ask you to re-setup from scratch rather than reloading a saved config. Clearly not confident in their software ;).

So I've bought an RT-AC68U in an attempt to resolve poor WiFi coverage / latency issues.
Costs as much as the DSL-AC68U, but it's nice having separate devices.
Managed to link them via WDS. Works ok'ish. Get up to 20mbps but it's erratic. Still trying to get it to work in a more stable manner. If I can't I'll link them up wired. But for now I'm trying.

Hope that helps.

Rgds,
SD
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I have the opposite experience haha with my billion being a broken piece of crap with the silliest of interfaces.

Ended up buying a ZyXEL did a firmware update and bam works like a charm get 38Mbps over WiFi

4 phones, media player, laptop and pc connected to the WiFi.

That said ... I dumbed down the ZyXEL to a simple VDSL modem and run the WiFi and firewall through the Mikrotik
 
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So, I'm in the market for a new VDSL router, I basically just need it as a modem to connect to my Mikrotik.
I currently have a Pace 921VNX which is terribly unstable and loses sync several times a day, testing with an Mweb Fon router and seems to be much better having not dropped once in nearly 3 days (it is a re-branded Technicolor TG589vn).
I need something that offers good line stats and 100% rock solid as I never once had an issue on 20mb ADSL (with a Dlink 2750U) so the line is fine.
Can anyone comment on the Zyxel VMG1312-B10A? I don't need any of the fancy features as I will be disabling pretty much everything, just need a stable sync. It seems like the cheapest option but happy to spend a bit more if there is something more stable.
Also, does anyone know which of the suppliers stock these? Rectron used to but it seems like they don't any more.
 
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