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Hi all

A couple of questions:

1. Who sells Verizon unshaped accounts?

2. Would anyone using these accounts for international online gaming please comment on the performance of it?

I'm currently using SAIX unshaped from Web Africa and it has deteriorated over the past two months. i.e. the latency is higher

Thanks.
 
Hey .geek

OpenWeb sells Verizon Business Unshaped accounts.

http://www.openweb.co.za/specials

If you drop me a PM, I can give you a quick 1 hour test account.

Kind regards
MrBEEP

.geek said:
Hi all

A couple of questions:

1. Who sells Verizon unshaped accounts?

2. Would anyone using these accounts for international online gaming please comment on the performance of it?

I'm currently using SAIX unshaped from Web Africa and it has deteriorated over the past two months. i.e. the latency is higher

Thanks.
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Hi MrBEEP. It's good to see such prompt replies!

If possible, could I PM you this evening so that I can test the account from home? I'm at work now, so I wouldn't be able to test the account.

Thanks.
 
.geek said:
Hi MrBEEP. It's good to see such prompt replies!

If possible, could I PM you this evening so that I can test the account from home? I'm at work now, so I wouldn't be able to test the account.

Thanks.
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one up for MR Beep :)

please geek do the TRACERT with saix vs verizon and paste so we can have a bit of comparison for once !
 
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.geek said:
Hi all

A couple of questions:

1. Who sells Verizon unshaped accounts?

2. Would anyone using these accounts for international online gaming please comment on the performance of it?

I'm currently using SAIX unshaped from Web Africa and it has deteriorated over the past two months. i.e. the latency is higher

Thanks.
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See above post.

I got Verizon Unshaped from www.vanilla.co.za and its better than WA at the moment. Although the difference is small, ingame feels much more responsive and the latency bar is lower. I even get green in lowby zones.

Its not better than WA unshaped was 2 months ago though. Then I got 178ms to my wow server THROUGH %^&@$ LONDON!!!!!!!! These telkom noobs are routing us through some massively useless route now. Its slow. And by slow I mean $%^@!# slow.

Interestingly enough Verizon's connection goes through China and my latencies are not all that bad. 250ms.

Sigh.
 
Thanks for allowing me to test an Openweb Verizon unshaped account MrBEEP. Below are just some results from various tests to servers that I am concerned with. It is by no means 100% conclusive.

Web Africa Unshaped
===================

Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.135.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=224ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=224ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=228ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=240

Pinging newswww.bbc.net.uk [212.58.226.8] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=54
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=54
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=54
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=54

Pinging www.saix.net [196.25.1.200] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=251
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=251
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=251
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=251

Tracing route to useast.battle.net [63.240.202.122]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms dsl-146-116-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.116.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 39 ms 41 ms 39 ms 196.43.33.2
6 39 ms 41 ms 41 ms 196.43.33.5
7 284 ms 283 ms 284 ms ash-ip-dir-equinix-pos-5-5.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.18.54]
8 283 ms 285 ms 284 ms 12.117.208.5
9 290 ms 290 ms 289 ms tbr1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.80.194]
10 284 ms 283 ms 285 ms 12.123.8.17
11 284 ms 285 ms 283 ms 12.122.255.50
12 287 ms 287 ms 284 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.wdc1.attens.net [63.240.193.10]

Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygateway.ar7 [192.168.0.1]
2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms dsl-146-116-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.116.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 38 ms 40 ms 38 ms 196.43.33.2
6 40 ms 39 ms 38 ms 196.43.33.5
7 206 ms 205 ms 206 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-gig-4-0-1025.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.18.121]
8 204 ms 205 ms 206 ms ldn-tch-i1-link.telia.net [213.155.141.153]
9 207 ms 205 ms 205 ms ldn-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.209]
10 204 ms 205 ms 206 ms ldn-bb1-pos0-3-0.telia.net [213.248.74.5]
11 218 ms 218 ms 219 ms hbg-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.220]
12 240 ms 242 ms 240 ms s-bb1-pos5-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.29]
13 235 ms 235 ms 234 ms s-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.66.2]
14 241 ms 240 ms 242 ms s [80.91.249.69]
15 235 ms 236 ms 237 ms blizzard [213.248.66.170]

Tracing route to host-31.wow-europe.com [80.239.179.31]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms dsl-146-116-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.116.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 42 ms 38 ms 40 ms 196.43.33.2
6 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 196.43.33.5
7 277 ms 277 ms 278 ms ny-ip-dir-globalc-pos-3-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.18.97]
8 276 ms 279 ms 275 ms nyk-i3-geth3-2.telia.net [213.248.82.237]
9 276 ms 277 ms 277 ms nyk-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.82.141]
10 278 ms 275 ms 274 ms ldn-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.209]
11 283 ms 281 ms 284 ms prs-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.114]
12 283 ms 283 ms 281 ms prs-b2-pos11-0.telia.net [213.248.65.226]
13 284 ms 281 ms 283 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]

Openweb Verizon Unshaped
========================

Pinging www.google.com [209.85.135.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=236
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=236
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=257ms TTL=235
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=253ms TTL=235

Pinging newswww.bbc.net.uk [212.58.226.8] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=215ms TTL=46
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=217ms TTL=46
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=217ms TTL=46
Reply from 212.58.226.8: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=45

Pinging www.saix.net [196.25.1.200] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=244
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=244
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=244
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=244

Tracing route to useast.battle.net [63.240.202.122]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygateway.ar7 [192.168.0.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
4 41 ms 39 ms 39 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
5 61 ms 42 ms 172 ms fe4-1-0.cr2.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.34]
6 223 ms 258 ms 221 ms s4-1-1.cr1.mia16.alter.net [196.30.229.245]
7 246 ms 243 ms 241 ms so0-0-1.ir1.par6.alter.net [196.30.229.105]
8 299 ms 297 ms 296 ms 0.so-3-1-0.IH1.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.109]
9 299 ms 299 ms 298 ms 500.at-2-2-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.94]
10 299 ms 297 ms 300 ms 0.so-1-1-0.XL2.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.98]
11 316 ms 322 ms 315 ms 0.so-6-1-1.XL4.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.29.102]
12 318 ms 319 ms 315 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.170]
13 319 ms 315 ms 318 ms 192.205.34.49
14 324 ms 324 ms 324 ms 12.122.105.74
15 304 ms 303 ms 305 ms tbr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.10.54]
16 300 ms 295 ms 300 ms 12.123.8.21
17 323 ms 324 ms 326 ms 12.122.255.50
18 322 ms 320 ms 448 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-12-1.wdc1.attens.net [63.240.193.14]

Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 41 ms 39 ms 39 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
4 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
5 41 ms 40 ms 43 ms fe4-1-0.cr1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.33]
6 212 ms 211 ms 212 ms t30-0-0.cr1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.233]
7 236 ms 235 ms 232 ms so0-0-0.ir1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.182]
8 212 ms 212 ms 245 ms so-0-0-1.IH2.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.2.241]
9 231 ms 232 ms 234 ms so-3-0-0.IH2.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.2.50]
10 234 ms 233 ms 237 ms so-1-0-0.TR1.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.8.181]
11 215 ms 212 ms 213 ms POS1-0.BR1.LND18.ALTER.NET [146.188.3.250]
12 234 ms 230 ms 228 ms ldn-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.104.45]
13 213 ms 209 ms 212 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.251.14]
14 232 ms 233 ms 232 ms hbg-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.249.15]
15 264 ms 263 ms 261 ms s-bb2-pos7-3-0.telia.net [213.248.64.37]
16 272 ms 267 ms 264 ms s-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.249.90]
17 243 ms 243 ms 241 ms s-hdn-i3-link.telia.net [80.91.249.69]
18 246 ms 245 ms 249 ms blizzard-01072-s-hdn-i1.c.telia.net [213.248.66.170]

Tracing route to host-31.wow-europe.com [80.239.179.31]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygateway.ar7 [192.168.0.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 40 ms 41 ms 41 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
4 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
5 40 ms 42 ms 41 ms fe4-1-0.cr1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.33]
6 228 ms 213 ms 214 ms t30-0-0.cr1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.233]
7 236 ms 235 ms 232 ms so0-0-1.ir1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.190]
8 211 ms 214 ms 212 ms so-0-0-1.IH2.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.2.241]
9 229 ms 232 ms 232 ms so-3-0-0.IH2.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.2.50]
10 282 ms 230 ms 231 ms so-5-0-0.TR2.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.3.222]
11 212 ms 213 ms 212 ms POS2-0.BR1.LND18.ALTER.NET [146.188.4.42]
12 229 ms 235 ms 231 ms ldn-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.104.45]
13 231 ms 231 ms 232 ms ldn-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.234]
14 223 ms 221 ms 224 ms prs-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.9]
15 242 ms 241 ms 244 ms prs-b2-pos15-0.telia.net [213.248.65.222]
16 225 ms 222 ms 220 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]
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WA: unshaped saix account
Verizon: Open web's unshaped account

------------------------------------------------
Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.135.147] with 32 bytes of data:

WA:
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=240

Verizon:
Reply from 209.85.135.147: bytes=32 time=253ms TTL=235
...

Tracing route to useast.battle.net [63.240.202.122]
WA:
12 287 ms 287 ms 284 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.wdc1.attens.net [63.240.193.10]

Verizon:
18 322 ms 320 ms 448 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-12-1.wdc1.attens.net [63.240.193.14]
...

Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.67]
WA:
15 235 ms 236 ms 237 ms blizzard [213.248.66.170]

Verizon:
18 246 ms 245 ms 249 ms blizzard-01072-s-hdn-i1.c.telia.net [213.248.66.170]
...


Tracing route to host-31.wow-europe.com [80.239.179.31]
WA:
13 284 ms 281 ms 283 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]

Verizon:
16 225 ms 222 ms 220 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]
...

verizon better for wow-eu gaming?

only one way to find out - get an account for a month ;)
 
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Necuno said:
WA: unshaped saix account
Verizon: Open web's unshaped account

------------------------------------------------

Tracing route to host-31.wow-europe.com [80.239.179.31]
WA:
13 284 ms 281 ms 283 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]

Verizon:
16 225 ms 222 ms 220 ms prs-tc-i2-link-telia.net [80.91.250.34]
...

verizon better for wow-eu gaming?
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Thanks, this is good to know. I may just get one of these for a month to try it out.
 
Location: Kirstenhof, Cape Town Southern Suburbs, South Africa
Time: 6:40pm
Date: 31/05/07

WebAfrica SAIX Shaped:

min 403 max 413 av 408 amazon.co.uk (UK)
min 393 max 394 av 393 google.com (US)
min 355 max 361 av 357 fusion01.com (US)
min 35 max 36 av 35 hetzner.co.za (ZA)

webAfrica SAIX Unshaped:

min 236 max 246 av 238 amazon.co.uk (UK)
min 289 max 293 av 290 google.com (US)
min 322 max 325 av 322 fusion01.com (US)
min 35 max 36 av 35 hetzner.co.za (ZA)
 
.geek said:
Hi all

A couple of questions:

1. Who sells Verizon unshaped accounts?

2. Would anyone using these accounts for international online gaming please comment on the performance of it?

I'm currently using SAIX unshaped from Web Africa and it has deteriorated over the past two months. i.e. the latency is higher

Thanks.
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Lol thought u knew how to use search :p
 
Nameite said:
Lol thought u knew how to use search :p
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Stop making useless posts.

The reason for the post was to find CURRENT information. I am quite aware of what existed a few months ago regarding unshaped accounts. At the moment, the performance is quite pathetic.
 
It aint useless, the current info is no diff to info a week or two ago.

If there was a diff, someone would post it
 
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