Very Disproportionate, Indeed

rwenzori said:
So they only destroy "military bases"? C'mon, you know that's not true.
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I never said they did but plenty of other entities are linked to Hamas. Hamas fires rockets from civilian areas, just like Hezbollah did in Lebanon. Hamas is an illegitimate, terrorist entity and the world would be better off without it.
 
Syndyre said:
Israel's powerful, therefore they shouldn't use that power to protect their interests. Hamas is relatively weak, therefore all their actions are justified. That seems to be the [-]propaganda[/-] logic used.
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Typical lefty logic. Israel being rich, powerful and successful means they must have exploited somebody. Oh look Gaza is a mess. They must be the victims then because as you know their own leaders couldn't possibly be responsible for their plight.
 
Syndyre said:
There's no need to explain it away. He's entitled to his opinion but being a Rabbi and Jewish doesn't make it automatically valid. Referring to the "Zionist regime" hardly makes him sound objective.
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Israel supporters call themselves Zionists proudly are they not objective then? they are proud of the word so call them by it. These anti-Zionist Jews use the word "Zionist" to make a clear distinction from Judaism.
 
Syndyre said:
There's no need to explain it away. He's entitled to his opinion but being a Rabbi and Jewish doesn't make it automatically valid. Referring to the "Zionist regime" hardly makes him sound objective.
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Well it is a Zionist state, isn't it? Zionist movements were instrumental in forming it, populating it and ruling it. That is history, not so?
 
Alan said:
Typical lefty logic. Israel being rich, powerful and successful means they must have exploited somebody. Oh look Gaza is a mess. They must be the victims then because as you know their own leaders couldn't possibly be responsible for their plight.
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Before Israel there was no plight, simple.
 
Alan said:
Typical lefty logic. Israel being rich, powerful and successful means they must have exploited somebody. Oh look Gaza is a mess. They must be the victims then because as you know their own leaders couldn't possibly be responsible for their plight.
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Exactly.

Aqua_lung said:
Israel supporters call themselves Zionists proudly are they not objective then? they are proud of the word so call them by it. These anti-Zionist Jews use the word "Zionist" to make a clear distinction from Judaism.
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And "regime" has no negative connotations at all?

rwenzori said:
Well it is a Zionist state, isn't it? Zionist movements were instrumental in forming it, populating it and ruling it. That is history, not so?
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I'm not denying that but its also a phrase generally used by those opposed to Israel and as I said above regime is hardly objective.
 
Syndyre said:
I never said they did but plenty of other entities are linked to Hamas. Hamas fires rockets from civilian areas, just like Hezbollah did in Lebanon. Hamas is an illegitimate, terrorist entity and the world would be better off without it.
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Agreed. Unfortunately some people have an ingrained affinity in their psyche for these types :sick:
 
1250 rockets fired into Israel pales into comparison when one considers the countless lives/families that the Israelis have destroyed in their quest for a Jewish state.

If you want to see the wonderful job the Israelis have done check out amorozy's pics on Picasa.
 
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Alan said:
Oh look Gaza is a mess. They must be the victims then because as you know their own leaders couldn't possibly be responsible for their plight.
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A bit naive, even for you alantjie? You know that Gaza is tightly buttoned up by Israel.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Before Israel there was no plight, simple.
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Therefore Israel must be destroyed?


rwenzori said:
Well, what point were you then trying to make at post #11?
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My point was just that Israel don't deliberately target civilians, Hamas does.

Aqua_lung said:
Yes, that's why they bombed Police Stations in Gaza to restore law an order, gotta love their logic.
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Considering the police are controlled by Hamas which is recognised as a terrorist entity it makes perfect sense.

brixton tower said:
1250 rockets fired into Israel pales into comparison when one considers the countless lives/families that the Israelis have destroyed in their quest for a Jewish state.
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So its now Israel's fault when their neighbours attack them?
 
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