Vodacom achieves the impossible

How p!ssed must CellC be right now, wtf icasa ?

insanity rules it seems

or could it be that vodacom just presented a better argument than cellc when they tried to use the term
 
It would be interesting to see if these is any legal angle for Cell C to sue Vodacom for the monetary loss they incurred when they had to pull their ads....

I doubt there would be, but still.
 
its pathetic...and shows how unethical these csp's are.
they should be heavily fined..learn from nigeria
 
its pathetic...and shows how unethical these csp's are.
they should be heavily fined..learn from nigeria
 
Cell C originally claimed HSPA (normal 3G) as 4G while Vodacom claims LTE.

As stated by numerous international and local experts, the difference is in the air interface with the defining difference between 3G and 4G the switch from WCDMA to OFDM.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Cell C originally claimed HSPA (normal 3G) as 4G while Vodacom claims LTE.

As stated by numerous international and local experts, the difference is in the air interface with the defining difference between 3G and 4G the switch from WCDMA to OFDM.
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No - Vodacom argued that only LTE-Advanced is 4G.

Vodacom CEO Pieter Uys said that his company supports the ITU as the official arbiter of what constitutes a 4G service, which has been formally defined as IMT-Advanced and only includes LTE-Advanced and WirelessMAN-Advanced (the next generation of WiMax). “No other technologies can therefore be deemed ‘true 4G’,” said
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HavocXphere said:
Quite a d!ck move by Vodacom


Its not. There current isn't any 4G consumer tech that meets the 4G definition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Technical_understanding
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From you own link:

"As opposed to earlier generations, a 4G system does not support traditional circuit-switched telephony service, but all-Internet Protocol (IP) based communication such as IP telephony.

As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes).

The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."
 
I think the interesting part here is that Vodacom used the ITU’s definition of 4G – which excludes LTE and HSPA+ - to prove that Cell C could not call its network 4G (or 4Gs). At the time Cell C argued that 4G was not well defined, and that many operators used 4G to describe HSPA+.

Vodacom now argued that 4G is not well defined, but still claimed that the ITU names LTE as a 4G technology (which is curiously debunked by Vodacom’s previous submissions, where the ITU said LTE is not 4G).

Not that I blame Vodacom – in both cases they used well-researched and solid arguments.
 
rpm said:
I think the interesting part here is that Vodacom used the ITU’s definition of 4G – which excludes LTE and HSPA+ - to prove that Cell C could not call its network 4G (or 4Gs). At the time Cell C argued that 4G was not well defined, and that many operators used 4G to describe HSPA+.

Vodacom now argued that 4G is not well defined, but still claimed that the ITU names LTE as a 4G technology (which is curiously debunked by Vodacom’s previous submissions, where the ITU said LTE is not 4G).

Not that I blame Vodacom – in both cases they used well-researched and solid arguments.
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A topic for the conference? ;)
 
Every new device I use I've had to turn the device down to 3G only as I always lose calls if it's on '4G'.
 
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jannievanzyl said:
As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes).
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It is also spread spectrum technology, just ads more encoding schemes or MIMO channels and allows flexible band allocation (not a single one, but more in the same time). It use mostly more spectrum for increasing throuput. Not a technology breakthrough indeed (which would justify 4G - a new generation statement).
 
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bleh .... LTE looks and sounds cooler anyway. :D My phone shows LTE as 4G, if I had a choice, I would have it show LTE instead. I dont think I will make this conference, but I do hope that the networks tell us how they are planning their networks to meet demand technology wise, instead of throwing subscriber numbers, balance sheets and ARPU's at us.
 
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