Vodacom developing eSIM support

jannievanzyl said:
Been busy for a quite a while actually. The standards are not all in place yet, so we've been working to implement whatever is/was ready.

Does Apple follow the standards? ;)
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God question. .LOL.

In such case I am wondering why Vodacom focus on Apple, instead on mainstream standards like VoLTE and VoWiFi. My Vodacom supplied Huawei Y6 do not work on these emerging standards.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Well, the risk is pissing off the iSheeple. :)

We always implement whatever architecture Apple deploys, even if they have a smaller base.

I'm fully with you on being first to market, just look at all the first we do in SA. But if you can be first AND do it on the technology that will be the standard, you're going to save a LOT of money.

In this case, we'll end up with some solution that'll support both architectures.
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Cool. The sooner the better - dual sim functionality will be great
 
AfricanTech said:
Cool. The sooner the better - dual sim functionality will be great
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I'm curious why they've disabled that functionality on some Android phones that had built in hardware.

I'm thankful for Apple in this case. If they didn't bring dual sim in whatever form Vodacom would've keeped on disabling any Vodacom bought dual sim handsets (if anymore in the future) on the market and the rest maybe wouldve stopped bringing any dual sims completely.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Correct.

It's more a function of device manufacturers that were/are slow in their support for the standards-based Wi-Fi Calling.

Others put a 3rd party client on the phone but I believe one should support the standards where possible. A lot of phones are coming out now with support.

We never "commercially" launched because of the lack of handset support.
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Will the implementation change to have a setting to be able to have Wi-Fi calling on at all times and not only when mobile signal is bad?

There's an inbetween range where you maybe have one bar and it won't be active and if a call comes through it gets cut after a few seconds.
 
What I find interesting is that I bought a global mobile LTE thingie last year. It uses an e-sim.

it works 100% in ZA with global data on it. Which means one-of (or more) of our networks already support e-sims. They just haven't found a way to get money from us for it yet....
 
Sayf777 said:
Will the implementation change to have a setting to be able to have Wi-Fi calling on at all times and not only when mobile signal is bad?

There's an inbetween range where you maybe have one bar and it won't be active and if a call comes through it gets cut after a few seconds.
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We originally had it Wi-Fi first with 4G fallback. But then people complained about poor call quality when in a crappy Wi-Fi environment so we switched it around. Now it's 4G first, then Wi-Fi.

If I want to force Wi-Fi calling (like when roaming), I switch on Flight Mode and then just activate Wi-Fi.

PS. Apple does not yet support Wi-Fi calling when roaming.
 
neoprema said:
What I find interesting is that I bought a global mobile LTE thingie last year. It uses an e-sim.

it works 100% in ZA with global data on it. Which means one-of (or more) of our networks already support e-sims. They just haven't found a way to get money from us for it yet....
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If it really is an eSIM (and not just a normal SIM embedded), it shows where we are with the standards. We can handle an eSIM today but we cannot yet provision one dynamically. We being the industry.

So, you either have a normal SIM glued in the device or it's an SIM that got provisioned manually before the device shipped.

We actually ran a trail like that with Samsing Smartwatches more than a year ago. But the eSIM had to be pre-provisioned via an app.
 
jannievanzyl said:
We originally had it Wi-Fi first with 4G fallback. But then people complained about poor call quality when in a crappy Wi-Fi environment so we switched it around. Now it's 4G first, then Wi-Fi.

If I want to force Wi-Fi calling (like when roaming), I switch on Flight Mode and then just activate Wi-Fi.

PS. Apple does not yet support Wi-Fi calling when roaming.
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So that's what happened to Wi-Fi calling, nou sê jy my, I've been wondering for months why it's no longer working like it should.
 
Vodacom and MTN cripple physical dual SIM phones I have to wonder what the final solution here will be. Probably something that doesn't allow use of competitor SIM and only available on contract
 
jannievanzyl said:
We originally had it Wi-Fi first with 4G fallback. But then people complained about poor call quality when in a crappy Wi-Fi environment so we switched it around. Now it's 4G first, then Wi-Fi.

If I want to force Wi-Fi calling (like when roaming), I switch on Flight Mode and then just activate Wi-Fi.

PS. Apple does not yet support Wi-Fi calling when roaming.
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Thanks. That's what I do when I have bad mobile signal and only good Wi-Fi.
 
jannievanzyl said:
We originally had it Wi-Fi first with 4G fallback. But then people complained about poor call quality when in a crappy Wi-Fi environment so we switched it around. Now it's 4G first, then Wi-Fi.

If I want to force Wi-Fi calling (like when roaming), I switch on Flight Mode and then just activate Wi-Fi.

PS. Apple does not yet support Wi-Fi calling when roaming.
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Would it be possible to have an option for 4G Preference Vs Wi-Fi preference?
 
When I hear "commercial support" from vodascum, I cringe :sick:
 
jannievanzyl said:
If it really is an eSIM (and not just a normal SIM embedded), it shows where we are with the standards. We can handle an eSIM today but we cannot yet provision one dynamically. We being the industry.

So, you either have a normal SIM glued in the device or it's an SIM that got provisioned manually before the device shipped.

We actually ran a trail like that with Samsing Smartwatches more than a year ago. But the eSIM had to be pre-provisioned via an app.
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I would have to screw it open to check... I'm not sure at this point as i tend to have a "once-opened its broken" DIY track record :)
 
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