Volvo advises against fitting sound system :(

The manufacturers always threaten "warranty void" but they have to prove if the modification has directly caused a warranty related malfunction. E.g. If the gearbox fails they cannot blame the radio installation.
They have to prove whatever the fk they wrote into the legal wording of their warranty agreement. And if they have a lawyer and an accountant on hand they'll quickly realise that:

1) Nobody reads the fkin 50 page agreement
2) Writing as broad a clause as possible gives them max savings potential
3) Writing as broad a clause as possible gives them minimum legal exposure

They might not actually enforce it (for the sake of customer goodwill), but I'd be very surprised if installing 1 custom item doesn't void the entire warranty (if applying the warranty wording in an.al fashion).

I sure as hell would write the agreement that way...
 
What it sounds like, Op,
is you want to swap out your Harmon Kardon sound system specifically designed for your car for some POS with all the flashy LED's..

/shakes head
 
Volvo advises against fitting sound system

They have to prove whatever the fk they wrote into the legal wording of their warranty agreement. And if they have a lawyer and an accountant on hand they'll quickly realise that:

1) Nobody reads the fkin 50 page agreement
2) Writing as broad a clause as possible gives them max savings potential
3) Writing as broad a clause as possible gives them minimum legal exposure

They might not actually enforce it (for the sake of customer goodwill), but I'd be very surprised if installing 1 custom item doesn't void the entire warranty (if applying the warranty wording in an.al fashion).

I sure as hell would write the agreement that way...

It is generally written exactly like that.

But I think over the years they’ve had enough serious contesters to the facts and lost so many times that they simply don’t go there any more.

They might threaten it sure and need a bit of a push but won’t resist too long.

These days even outside warranty periods they don’t take too many chances if it looks like a factory fault across a number of vehicles.

In America you can go even one further and service your own vehicles. As long as you can prove the parts were to spec and work done accordingly they have to honour the warranty.

Know of a few people who do this and take pictures every step of the way with log books and everything.
 
You are obviously seeing things because there is nothing contradictory or backtracking between those two posts.

Really? All I hear is the clippety-clop of something moving backwards....:whistle:
 
It is generally written exactly like that.

But I think over the years they’ve had enough serious contesters to the facts and lost so many times that they simply don’t go there any more.

They might threaten it sure and need a bit of a push but won’t resist too long.

These days even outside warranty periods they don’t take too many chances if it looks like a factory fault across a number of vehicles.

In America you can go even one further and service your own vehicles. As long as you can prove the parts were to spec and work done accordingly they have to honour the warranty.

Know of a few people who do this and take pictures every step of the way with log books and everything.

Dude. You have gone from "read your handbook or suffer" to "they simply don’t go there any more".

Holy shytestickles
 
He has already said:

No head unit change - cause that would deface my car ... literally, I wanted to add an amp, 6x9s, tweeters and a sub... using the existing face

What it sounds like, Op,
is you want to swap out your Harmon Kardon sound system specifically designed for your car for some POS with all the flashy LED's..

/shakes head

It probably sounds like that because you did not go through all the posts in the thread...
 
But I think over the years they’ve had enough serious contesters to the facts and lost so many times that they simply don’t go there any more.
haha nope. It's not about their willingness to go there.

Nobody contests anything when presented with a stern look and a 50 page document that they signed.

And the 1% that is crazy enough to contest it anyway despite being shown they're wrong black on white you simply tell "oh sorry we made a mistake"...and cover their bloody fender bender.

Minimises hassle. Minimises cost.

Welcome to business 101.

Know of a few people who do this and take pictures every step of the way with log books and everything.
You've got crazy friends. :p
 
Nobody contests anything when presented with a stern look and a 50 page document that they signed.

And the 1% that is crazy enough to contest it anyway despite being shown they're wrong black on white you simply tell "oh sorry we made a mistake"...and cover their bloody fender bender.

Well, I must be part of that 1%. I'm fair, but I will go to war if they try and **** me over with small print. Especially when it is in conflict with the CPA.
 
Volvo advises against fitting sound system

You've got crazy friends. :p

Americans are all a bit looney.

It’s what happens when you have to spend winters inside.


I’ve also personally done numerous warranty claims over time with modifications in place and never had an issue.

In fact my BMW is going in on Monday for a massive one and I still plan to fit the new risers this weekend without a worry.
 
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Dude. You have gone from "read your handbook or suffer" to "they simply don’t go there any more".

Holy shytestickles

Americans are all a bit looney.

It’s what happens when you have to spend winters inside.


I’ve also personally done numerous warranty claims over time with modifications in place and never had an issue.

In fact my BMW is going in on Monday for a massive one and I still plan to fit the new risers this weekend without a worry.

Psst - you haven't responded to this post. ;)
 
Volvo advises against fitting sound system

If you can’t understand the basic premise of the differences in statements here then I honestly can’t help you.

Not once did I say your entire warranty is void, quite the contrary.

And nothing has changed in that regard.

But you’ll read what you want to read into everything, so enjoy yourself.

You also can’t quote for ****. Unless you expect me to respond to myself....which is just odd.
 
He has already said:





It probably sounds like that because you did not go through all the posts in the thread...

6 x 9's .. that just says it all.
I don't need or want to read all the other crud in this thread.
 
Thank you OP for this thread I also wanted to change the radio in my car, Honda told me I will loss the warranty If I want to change the head unit. Honda can do it for me they want R12 999 excluding labour.
 
The manufacturers always threaten "warranty void" but they have to prove if the modification has directly caused a warranty related malfunction. E.g. If the gearbox fails they cannot blame the radio installation.

Exactly. My friend's car inside burned a couple of months after he installed his loud sound system into the car. Took it to VW and they tried to shift the blame to the sound installation. After a proper investagation, they found out that it had nothing to do with the sound being installed by him.
 
Just find out whom they use and get it installed by them. I bet they don't do it themselves.
 
Didn't read the whole thread, so don't know if it's been said yet...

...if you're old enough to drive a Volvo, you're too old to PIMP your ride.
 
Didn't read the whole thread, so don't know if it's been said yet...

...if you're old enough to drive a Volvo, you're too old to PIMP your ride.

Nothing wrong with tasteful pimping, even on a Volvo.
 
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