Vox portforwarding and server hosting

DqrkSA

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i am currently running debian with amp installed on a small computer to host a minecraft bedrock edition server for my friends and i. Vox has blocked my ip from accessing my router settings so i sent them an email asking them to portforward the local machines ip and the default port with UDP they got back to me and confirmed that the port is now open however when i go to a website like https://dnschecker.org/port-scanner.php to see open parts and i type my external ip and the default bedrock port it says it closed i have also tryed to connect to the minecraft server on my phone while on mobile data and it doesnt work i have tried using the local ip the external ip and even the routers ip i dont what i am missing i am very new to all of this and just trying to get it to work. Debian is set up with a static ip and i still have access to the internet i can ping 8.8.8.8 and run sudo apt update just fine. any help or suggestions is appreactated.
 
if you are on the LAN and try connect to the local IP... are you able to connect? I would first verify the service is running and accessible to the local network before getting the routing sorted out.
 
if you are on the LAN and try connect to the local IP... are you able to connect? I would first verify the service is running and accessible to the local network before getting the routing sorted out.
yes i am able to connect with the local ip at this point everything seems to be working except no one outside of my home network can access the server
 
I am also with Vox and the default installation disables the web interface of the Mikrotik routers for security reasons. You can however use Mikrotik's Winbox software to manage the router.

They have a form that you can complete to apply for a user account on the router which you can then use to manage it. Having said that, Mikrotik OS is complex and requires networking knowledge to configure. It is not a consumer friendly user interface.

If you have access to another router with a wan port, then I would recommend setting it up and enabling port forwarding on the specific ports that you need. If that works, then you will know whether the issue is with the config of the router or whether the problem is elsewhere.
 
instead of port forwarding, why not use something like gameranger or logme in Hamachi? port forwarding is always a pain.
or radmin-vpn, its free ( unlimited networks and clients), its what hamachi used to be before logmein sucked the life out of it for profit
 
I am also with Vox and the default installation disables the web interface of the Mikrotik routers for security reasons. You can however use Mikrotik's Winbox software to manage the router.

They have a form that you can complete to apply for a user account on the router which you can then use to manage it. Having said that, Mikrotik OS is complex and requires networking knowledge to configure. It is not a consumer friendly user interface.

If you have access to another router with a wan port, then I would recommend setting it up and enabling port forwarding on the specific ports that you need. If that works, then you will know whether the issue is with the config of the router or whether the problem is elsewhere.
i am worried cause of voxs cgnat and i believe that is the main reason that others are not able to access my server and i don't believe taking control of my router will fix this as i don't have my own public ip address i sent vox an email about this a couple days ago and they have completely ignored me so i am in the dark. i was thinking about trying to figure out how ipv6 works and seeing if i could get a public ip address for that from vox as they would probably be more willing however minecraft bedrock does not support ipv6 only minecarft java does. i honestly feel i am out of options for straight up portforwarding as i feel the odds of vox providing me a ipv4 address are close to zero. if you know of any other possible solutions or something i missed i would really like to hear i am very new and dont know what i am doing any help is appreacted
 
instead of port forwarding, why not use something like gameranger or logme in Hamachi? port forwarding is always a pain.
this would work if half my friends were not unfortunately on mobile or console
 
i am worried cause of voxs cgnat and i believe that is the main reason that others are not able to access my server and i don't believe taking control of my router will fix this as i don't have my own public ip address i sent vox an email about this a couple days ago and they have completely ignored me so i am in the dark. i was thinking about trying to figure out how ipv6 works and seeing if i could get a public ip address for that from vox as they would probably be more willing however minecraft bedrock does not support ipv6 only minecarft java does. i honestly feel i am out of options for straight up portforwarding as i feel the odds of vox providing me a ipv4 address are close to zero. if you know of any other possible solutions or something i missed i would really like to hear i am very new and dont know what i am doing any help is appreacted

Networking is not my day job so take what I say with a pinch of salt. Having access to the router would be a requirement to setup a reliable port forwarding connection. It also has some other benefits like managing wifi channels etc.

To my knowledge you need the following for port forwarding to work reliably:

- A public ip assigned to the router. On the Frogfoot network my FTTH connection receives a public ip address and I assume static ips may be limited for business connections. Mikrotik has a dynamic dns function that you can enable on the router. Your friends can then use the dns name to connect to your Minecraft/server pc.

- The server pc needs to be assigned a static ip address. You can either manually assign an address outside of the dhcp range on your router or reserve the ip on the router so that it always assigns the same ip to your pc. The latter would require access to the router. If the ip address of the pc changes, it will likely break the port forwarding rules that you have configured already.

- Connect the server pc directly to the main router via ethernet to avoid having a second router in front of it since that would require port forwarding to be configure on both routers which is messy. Some mesh wifi systems set themselves up in router instead of access point mode.

-You need to add a rule on the router to forward incoming traffic to the static/reserved ip and port of the server pc on your network. It sounds like Vox may have configured this for you.

- Open up the ports on the firewall of the server pc. I am not familiar with configuring the Debian firewall, but you could always ask Grok, Copilot or another AI engine to give you detailed instructions on how to perform these steps on your operating system. On Windows that would require you to add firewall rules for specific port numbers. Services (or the pc) may need to be restarted before rules take effect.

Once all the above steps have been completed, you can use a site like dnschecker dot org which can perform port scanning to check if ports are open.

Given all the steps above is why I suggested that you should try setting it to up using a consumer based router where the configuration is much easier compard to the Mikrotik. If it works on the consumer grade router then you could spend time setting up the mikrotik to do the same. Many LTE or adsl routers have ethernet wan ports which will allow you to use it instead of the Mikrotik. The pppoe username and password can be retrieved from the Vox customer portal if you go that route.
 
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Networking is not my day job so take what I say with a pinch of salt. Having access to the router would be a requirement to setup a reliable port forwarding connection. It also has some other benefits like managing wifi channels etc.

To my knowledge you need the following for port forwarding to work reliably:

- A public ip assigned to the router. On the Frogfoot network my FTTH connection receives a public ip address and I assume static ips may be limited for business connections. Mikrotik has a dynamic dns function that you can enable on the router. Your friends can then use the dns name to connect to your Minecraft/server pc.

- The server pc needs to be assigned a static ip address. You can either manually assign an address outside of the dhcp range on your router or reserve the ip on the router so that it always assigns the same ip to your pc. The latter would require access to the router. If the ip address of the pc changes, it will likely break the port forwarding rules that you have configured already.

- Connect the server pc directly to the main router via ethernet to avoid having a second router in front of it since that would require port forwarding to be configure on both routers which is messy. Some mesh wifi systems set themselves up in router instead of access point mode.

-You need to add a rule on the router to forward incoming traffic to the static/reserved ip and port of the server pc on your network. It sounds like Vox may have configured this for you.

- Open up the ports on the firewall of the server pc. I am not familiar with configuring the Debian firewall, but you could always ask Grok, Copilot or another AI engine to give you detailed instructions on how to perform these steps on your operating system. On Windows that would require you to add firewall rules for specific port numbers. Services (or the pc) may need to be restarted before rules take effect.

Once all the above steps have been completed, you can use a site like dnschecker dot org which can perform port scanning to check if ports are open.

Given all the steps above is why I suggested that you should try setting it to up using a consumer based router where the configuration is much easier compard to the Mikrotik. If it works on the consumer grade router then you could spend time setting up the mikrotik to do the same. Many LTE or adsl routers have ethernet wan ports which will allow you to use it instead of the Mikrotik. The pppoe username and password can be retrieved from the Vox customer portal if you go that route.
What you have said is entirely correct. The issue, however, is that Vox does not provide administrative access to its Mikrotik routers, and they insist on the use of their supplied equipment. When this is combined with call-centre agents who are often unable to offer adequate assistance, the result is unfortunately predictable.

My recommendation would be to discontinue using Vox and move to a more reliable ISP, such as Cool Ideas or Afrihost. Once you have done so, request that they assign you a public IP address (in case you are initially placed behind CGNAT).
 
i am worried cause of voxs cgnat and i believe that is the main reason that others are not able to access my server and i don't believe taking control of my router will fix this as i don't have my own public ip address i sent vox an email about this a couple days ago and they have completely ignored me so i am in the dark. i was thinking about trying to figure out how ipv6 works and seeing if i could get a public ip address for that from vox as they would probably be more willing however minecraft bedrock does not support ipv6 only minecarft java does. i honestly feel i am out of options for straight up portforwarding as i feel the odds of vox providing me a ipv4 address are close to zero. if you know of any other possible solutions or something i missed i would really like to hear i am very new and dont know what i am doing any help is appreacted

You could potentially get around CGNAT by using Cloudflare Tunnels, which is free, but this would require you owning a domain name to bind it to.

Also no need to port forwarding or any router configuration as you would put the service directly on the internet.

Assuming they (Vox) don’t actively block that of course.
 
Generally agree with many of the recommendations in this thread;
- Don't use Vox. You need to be in-charge of your own network equipment, ESPECIALLY since you'd likely want basics like static IPs set up via DHCP. I can't understand why Vox insists on doing this. Really basic home users - sure. But I'm helping a small business who is on Vox and yet I can't even set up their printer with a static IP.
- Consider using CloudFlare tunnels and buying your own domain - it can be a cheap one. This is just much safer these days than opening up ports on your router.

Incidentally, I know most people hate WebAfrica, but I get a completely static IP on the open internet from them for R29 a month (on my FTTH).
 
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