Vuma Reach Phoenix Thread

Vis1/0N said:
Should I worry about contention ratios in the least? There was a time I thought that fibre had no contention, turns out I was wrong. I am getting 0.09Mb/s upload at work to Stanmore tower via MyVoip. Sometimes I do get around 4Mb/s upload but I need a guaranteed QoS of 3Mb/s upload.

VumaReach packages are cheaper than the other Vuma fibre packages in other areas, but how compromised is it especially regarding upload contention?
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FTTH will always have contention and best effort attached to them. It's what makes them affordable. Contention can be both at the FNO level and the ISP level. It would be unfeasible to have a 1.1 contention ratio on the fibre operator and the ISP considering the costs and sell it for R399. It's just not remotely feasible.

This does not mean that you are going to get 1Mbps 80% of the time on your line but just means that the 40Mbps cannot be guaranteed to be available 24/7 to you at the highest priority.

Personally I think FTTH in SA is world class. People in SA get very good speeds in general even though it's contented and best effort service.
 
AfriNatic said:
FTTH will always have contention and best effort attached to them. It's what makes them affordable. Contention can be both at the FNO level and the ISP level. It would be unfeasible to have a 1.1 contention ratio on the fibre operator and the ISP considering the costs and sell it for R399. It's just not remotely feasible.

This does not mean that you are going to get 1Mbps 80% of the time on your line but just means that the 40Mbps cannot be guaranteed to be available 24/7 to you at the highest priority.

Personally I think FTTH in SA is world class. People in SA get very good speeds in general even though it's contented and best effort service.
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My Biggest concern here @AfriNatic is that as more and more areas get connected, contention will become a more real "issue". Im out in CPT and vuma reach team has started installing in my area.

I'm quite keen to get the 40mbps package (I currently pay R1500 for a 15mbps uncapped WISP package at the moment HOWEVER the contention ratio is 1:10 so the service is awesome). So ya, I guess I'm just worried that we don't end up with the 'ol Telkom DSLAM exchange congestion as thousands more users jump onboard the Vuma Reach train / network.

A guy from another ISP I spoke to said that Vuma Reach contention is sitting at 30:1, compared to normal VumaTel (upper class areas) normal fibre at 10:1 contention.
 
Great Gatsby said:
My Biggest concern here @AfriNatic is that as more and more areas get connected, contention will become a more real "issue". Im out in CPT and vuma reach team has started installing in my area.

I'm quite keen to get the 40mbps package (I currently pay R1500 for a 15mbps uncapped WISP package at the moment HOWEVER the contention ratio is 1:10 so the service is awesome). So ya, I guess I'm just worried that we don't end up with the 'ol Telkom DSLAM exchange congestion as thousands more users jump onboard the Vuma Reach train / network.

A guy from another ISP I spoke to said that Vuma Reach contention is sitting at 30:1, compared to normal VumaTel (upper class areas) normal fibre at 10:1 contention.
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So the PON split is 64:1 from what we are told, which means the signalling is split 64:1, and the cards can typically run at 2.5Gbps upstream and 1.25Gbps downstream. So in theory there would be little to no contention with every customer subscribing to 40Mbps.

Beyond that with aggregation switches backhaul etc is another story, but as far as last mile I don't see contention being an issue until larger packages are made available.

Vumatel can then upgrade the cards if they need etc.

Contention was a major factor in DSLAM days with ATM backhauls etc, and it was the backhauls that had the contention issues.
 
Sarg3_ZN said:
Place an order with the ISP of your choice now, so you will be at the front of the queue when they start hooking people up.
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I already paid for my order last week and placed my order 2 weeks ago bud. If your ISP is taking orders now, I suggest you sign up
 
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AfriNatic said:
Personally I think FTTH in SA is world class. People in SA get very good speeds in general even though it's contented and best effort service.
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I wish more people understand that. Our networks are even better than many first world countries when it comes to price, offerings and quality, especially given that almost all networks are symmetrical speeds. Also, while the contention ratios are always "best-effort" for FTTH, honestly I have seen some FNO's have their FTTH be more reliable than most FTTB offerings.
 
ghostRgg said:
I wish more people understand that. Our networks are even better than many first world countries when it comes to price, offerings and quality, especially given that almost all networks are symmetrical speeds. Also, while the contention ratios are always "best-effort" for FTTH, honestly I have seen some FNO's have their FTTH be more reliable than most FTTB offerings.
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Same here. Considering how trash the internet is in the USA if you dont get a good provider in your area, I think SA FNOs are providing a service on par with the very best in the world
 
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Nikkel said:
Basically just limited amount of wireless devices and single band, otherwise the GPON is actually a very nice device.

I was spoilt my Asus dsl ac52u which luckily had a WAN port and hooked it up to the GPON. Switched off wireless on GPON and it basically just acts as and ONT.

The Asus has nice features like QOS and freedom to create Guests or kids etc wireless network which you can assign a certain amount of throughput. Just more creature comforts and freedom to setup your network to your liking.
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Hi, were you able to log into the ONT to switch off wireless?
Do you have both wireless and Wired (LAN PORTS) available on your Asus dsl ac52u?
Reason is i have both wired and wireless devices, 2.4g and 5g.
Was the procedure straightforward, any configuration required on the ONT?
I will be using my current Netgear D7800 with my Hauwei ONT. Our area in CT should go live by middle February.

Thanks
 
donougdm said:
Hi, were you able to log into the ONT to switch off wireless? YES details is on GPON
Do you have both wireless and Wired (LAN PORTS) available on your Asus dsl ac52u? YES
Reason is i have both wired and wireless devices, 2.4g and 5g.
Was the procedure straightforward, any configuration required on the ONT? Just deactivate wireless
I will be using my current Netgear D7800 with my Hauwei ONT. Our area in CT should go live by middle February.

Thanks
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Thanks.

Sorry for all questions. Did you wire the ONT Lan 1 port via LAN cable to your WAN port of your Asus router?

So basically then, your ONT acts as the fibre modem only and your Asus as the router, as in pure fibre setup?

Kind regards
 
donougdm said:
Thanks.

Sorry for all questions. Did you wire the ONT Lan 1 port via LAN cable to your WAN port of your Asus router?

So basically then, your ONT acts as the fibre modem only and your Asus as the router, as in pure fibre setup?

Kind regards
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And do i need to do.any config on my router?
 
donougdm said:
Thanks.

Sorry for all questions. Did you wire the ONT Lan 1 port via LAN cable to your WAN port of your Asus router?

So basically then, your ONT acts as the fibre modem only and your Asus as the router, as in pure fibre setup?

Kind regards
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LAN Port 1 from ONT to the WAN of your router. Then disable wireless on your ONT. I think theres some settings to change on your router as well to prevent double natting from happening
 
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