Vuvuzela

The Vuvuzela . . .

  • Music to my ears

    Votes: 24 11.5%

  • Hate 'em

    Votes: 144 68.9%

  • They dont really bother me

    Votes: 41 19.6%
  • Total voters
    209
Finally something we agree on DJ. I've also actually stopped commenting here(the confed cup brought me back)

Theres no real discussions taking place here these days.
@ubercal
For the record Im not an expert on local or International soccer. Just a crazy passionate fan. I dont have any in-depth knowledge of the game. After all im only 23.
 
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DJ... said:
Because the football section is rampant with hooligans these days. See me commenting in any Man U threads as well lately? It's a pathetic part of the forum now that the 2/3 inebriates run around with their school-yard antics...
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LOL. Surprisingly, with only two members gone from the footy section over the last two weeks, everything has died down.

Shocking. :rolleyes:
 
Vuvuzelas are music to my ears. I love the constant sound of it, it signifies that the crowd is alive. I think people who hate the sound that the vuvuzela makes are those types of people who never watch local soccer matches, I can ask you right now to name me at least one player for Pirates and Chiefs and you wouldn't know, but if I ask you to name me at least 5 players from Manchester United you wouldn't have a problem answering. It means you are a European soccer fan and are used to the "sound" that they make at those matches. I went to a few European soccer forum that were provided on this thread and yes most of them don't like those "bee" sounding horns, but they also complained about a certain team loosing, they complained about their favourite star not playing well and other things, some of them hate the sound vuvuzela make but they accept the fact that it's South African soccer tradition to blow them and are willing to adapt.

I think if you don't like the sound the vuvuzela makes then don't watch local games, or do watch local matches or confed cup matches but please do yourself a favour and put your TV on mute, or alternatively, hibernate and wake up in the year 2014 and watch world cup matches there were the sound at a country that will be hosting the world cup that year won't be as "loud" as here in South Africa. Most soccer fans in this country that support local teams have no problem with vuvuzela, and now you want SAFA and/or FIFA to ban them? Not going to happen. The only thing I hate about fans blowing vuvuzela is lack of discipline, they should keep quite and stop blowing their horns when someone speaks before a match is played, and they when national anthems are sang, otherwise, fans must MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
 
Fern9do said:
Cool. I 'll stop now. Can see I'm pissing people off.

Lets just hope this concern with the local game will still be there once the confed cup is over.

I local soccer thread or two next season would be nice :)
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Double standards. Nothing new to these forums.
 
Sly21C said:
Vuvuzelas are music to my ears. I love the constant sound of it, it signifies that the crowd is alive. I think people who hate the sound that the vuvuzela makes are those types of people who never watch local soccer matches, I can ask you right now to name me at least one player for Pirates and Chiefs and you wouldn't know, but if I ask you to name me at least 5 players from Manchester United you wouldn't have a problem answering. It means you are a European soccer fan and are used to the "sound" that they make at those matches. I went to a few European soccer forum that were provided on this thread and yes most of them don't like those "bee" sounding horns, but they also complained about a certain team loosing, they complained about their favourite star not playing well and other things, some of them hate the sound vuvuzela make but they accept the fact that it's South African soccer tradition to blow them and are willing to adapt.

I think if you don't like the sound the vuvuzela makes then don't watch local games, or do watch local matches or confed cup matches but please do yourself a favour and put your TV on mute, or alternatively, hibernate and wake up in the year 2014 and watch world cup matches there were the sound at a country that will be hosting the world cup that year won't be as "loud" as here in South Africa. Most soccer fans in this country that support local teams have no problem with vuvuzela, and now you want SAFA and/or FIFA to ban them? Not going to happen. The only thing I hate about fans blowing vuvuzela is lack of discipline, they should keep quite and stop blowing their horns when someone speaks before a match is played, and they when national anthems are sang, otherwise, fans must MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
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Sly21C said:
Vuvuzelas are music to my ears. I love the constant sound of it, it signifies that the crowd is alive. I think people who hate the sound that the vuvuzela makes are those types of people who never watch local soccer matches, I can ask you right now to name me at least one player for Pirates and Chiefs and you wouldn't know, but if I ask you to name me at least 5 players from Manchester United you wouldn't have a problem answering. It means you are a European soccer fan and are used to the "sound" that they make at those matches. I went to a few European soccer forum that were provided on this thread and yes most of them don't like those "bee" sounding horns, but they also complained about a certain team loosing, they complained about their favourite star not playing well and other things, some of them hate the sound vuvuzela make but they accept the fact that it's South African soccer tradition to blow them and are willing to adapt.

I think if you don't like the sound the vuvuzela makes then don't watch local games, or do watch local matches or confed cup matches but please do yourself a favour and put your TV on mute, or alternatively, hibernate and wake up in the year 2014 and watch world cup matches there were the sound at a country that will be hosting the world cup that year won't be as "loud" as here in South Africa. Most soccer fans in this country that support local teams have no problem with vuvuzela, and now you want SAFA and/or FIFA to ban them? Not going to happen. The only thing I hate about fans blowing vuvuzela is lack of discipline, they should keep quite and stop blowing their horns when someone speaks before a match is played, and they when national anthems are sang, otherwise, fans must MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
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Could you have possibly squeezed in any more assumptions into this post? Have you even bothered reading the thread to see that most of this has been brought up and discussed already?

The one thing I am confused by is the fact that many people keep claiming that this is a part of SA football culture (which it is not) but then go on to admit that foreigners find it irritating, yet they must "adapt" as you put it. If we are to entice them into our country, then we are the ones who need to "adapt". This is why Germany hosted such a successful event - they didn't adopt this attitude that the tourists must lump it or leave it - they made things easy, pleasant and enticing for them. It's such a backwards and ridiculous mentality to expect tourists to be the ones to accept things which quite frankly are already pissing them off just watching on tv.

What's it going to be like when English, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian (and all other nation's) supporters attend matches and try to sing their traditional songs, chant their war-cries and generally support the way they are accustomed to, over 10,000 vuvuzelas - it's preposterous to expect them to be heard over that noise. Ban the fscking things I say - they serve no purpose apart from making a noise. They do not motivate a team or a player, nor do they in any way show support - they merely indicate that the fan is there with a piece of plastic. We can surely come up with something a lot more endearing than a horn which blows a monotonous sound; is deafening to anyone within close proximity to it and really serves no purpose?
 
Ja ne! we swarming the people's Tv with bees and booing the only white player in the team. Internet is fun. Off to more 'informative' blogs....
 
<snip>The only thing I hate about fans blowing vuvuzela is lack of discipline, they should keep quite and stop blowing their horns when someone speaks before a match is played, and they when national anthems are sang, <snip>
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Bwaaahahahahahahahaha. FAIL. The problem is right in front of your nose and you cannot even see it.

You see, the vuvzella is not a natural noise. It is a noise made to irritate, it will never ever be a thing of beauty because a noise making device is not built to encourage discipline, or fairness, or beauty.

In short, it's a mindless noise making device. If you give a child a mindless noise making device, you will take it away from the child when you start getting irritated from the continuous noise.

The vuvuzella is like a locust swarm to a crop about to be harvested.
 
DJ... said:
Could you have possibly squeezed in any more assumptions into this post? Have you even bothered reading the thread to see that most of this has been brought up and discussed already?

The one thing I am confused by is the fact that many people keep claiming that this is a part of SA football culture (which it is not) but then go on to admit that foreigners find it irritating, yet they must "adapt" as you put it. If we are to entice them into our country, then we are the ones who need to "adapt". This is why Germany hosted such a successful event - they didn't adopt this attitude that the tourists must lump it or leave it - they made things easy, pleasant and enticing for them. It's such a backwards and ridiculous mentality to expect tourists to be the ones to accept things which quite frankly are already pissing them off just watching on tv.

What's it going to be like when English, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian (and all other nation's) supporters attend matches and try to sing their traditional songs, chant their war-cries and generally support the way they are accustomed to, over 10,000 vuvuzelas - it's preposterous to expect them to be heard over that noise. Ban the fscking things I say - they serve no purpose apart from making a noise. They do not motivate a team or a player, nor do they in any way show support - they merely indicate that the fan is there with a piece of plastic. We can surely come up with something a lot more endearing than a horn which blows a monotonous sound; is deafening to anyone within close proximity to it and really serves no purpose?
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Ban them because YOU find them annoying? Or ban them because you are worried that soccer fans from Spain, Italy, and Brazil might not bother to come to SA as a result of the "noise" the vuvuzela make? The confed cup are a dress rehearsal for the world cup, things that go wrong in this tournament will be looked at and fixed in time for the world cup next year. Issues such as stadium attendants, ticket prices, transport, safety, stadia "noise" (vuvuzela), etc will be looked into, and if FIFA finds that MOST European fans will not bother to come to SA as a result of vuvuzelas then vuvuzelas might be banned. I personally support vuvuzelas, a lot of soccer loving South Africans who haven't been solely exposed to the European way of soccer certainly do love vuvuzelas, the rest (like yourself) certainly don't and I'm sure it's a small number of you, and you probably wouldn't even come to the stadium either even if they are indeed banned.

You remind me of old people who grew up with test Cricket and don't like 20/20 because "it kills the game", as they put it. You remind me of people who hate rock n roll, kwaito and hip hop music and then they go on to say that those genres of music are not music to begin with, they are simply "annoying and noisy". They just prefer Classical music. I'm in the Civil Engineering Industry and you remind me of a few old people I've met who don't like to do their designs using software because software (as they put it) makes people to not think since design software packages do everything.

I will support FIFA if they ban vuvuzelas after if it is found that next year's world cup will be in jeopardy as a result of many foreigners not planning to pitch. But I personally don't think FIFA should ban them because of you and a few people who've never attended a local soccer match.
 
hj2k_x said:
LOL. Surprisingly, with only two members gone from the footy section over the last two weeks, everything has died down.

Shocking. :rolleyes:
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Yeah it has been quiet since Genius and Supa left.

DJ... said:
Because the football section is rampant with hooligans these days. See me commenting in any Man U threads as well lately? It's a pathetic part of the forum now that the 2/3 inebriates run around with their school-yard antics...
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This section is difficult to stomach if you have a compulsive need to have an answer for every idiots' post. Everyone will say something stupid about footy, even decent people who are "nice blokes" 90% of the time. Supporting United anywhere is like supporting the Bulls while living in Bloemfontein.

Fern9do said:
Cool. I 'll stop now. Can see I'm pissing people off.

Lets just hope this concern with the local game will still be there once the confed cup is over.

I local soccer thread or two next season would be nice :)
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The only reason you're pissing people off is because you're making SupaGenius-like assumptions.

"No-one here even knew who Messi was before we got here"
"You ****ers don't watch the Spanish League at all"
"Let me tell you... <goggledegook snipped>"

A lot of people on this forum have been to a local match and still don't like the monotonous sound of the hellish vuvuzela. Even more people watch local footy (some because they want to, others because they are forced to) so any argument based on these facts is rendered moot (almost) immediately. Think of other ways to put your point across and you wont poke so many eyes.
 
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stepper said:
Ja ne! we swarming the people's Tv with bees and booing the only white player in the team. Internet is fun. Off to more 'informative' blogs....
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That white player's surname is Booth, Mathew Booth. Fans always say Boooo......th whenever he touches the ball. If you bothered to attend local soccer matches or ask a local soccer supporter you will realise that they are not booing him. We used to say "Fiiiiiiisssshhhh" whenever Mark Fish touched the ball, we used to say "Rooooooo" (sounds similar to booooo) whenever Lucas Radebe touched the ball, Roo was his nickname. Same goes with John "Shoes" Mosheau, we used to say "shoooooes" whenever he touched the ball or scored.

I must admit though that foreign soccer fans will certainly think that we are booing Booth since he's the only white player in the starting eleven in most matches. But South Africans should know better.
 
I know a few people in the uk who arent watching the confed cup purely cos of the 'irritating trumpets'
 
I see the Mercury has an article about Spain's Xabi Alonso calling for the ban of these things ......

"Those trumpets? That noise I don't like. Fifa must ban those things, it is not distracting but it is not nice to have a noise like that."
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And his teammate says how cool the singing was and even called it 'spirit lifting' .... so get rid of the vuvuzela thing and sing ffs.
 
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