Want fast wireless connect while visiting SA

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Hi,

I'll be traveling for a bit and staying in Uitenhage. I can find options for Port Elizabeth, but nothing in Uitenhage. Can anyone recommend the best short-term method to connect? I was hoping not to depend on my hosts to install ADSL for just a month. I would rather get my own PCMCIA card or cell phone with a cable that will plug into my laptop and have it good to go when I get there. Ideally, I could get a G3 or other type card cheaply here and bring it with me and just connect to some kind of wireless service. Any advice or ideas? Will this MTN setup work in Uitenhage? Do they have a G3 option, or something much faster than what are basically modem speeds on GPRS? Thanks!

Fred
 
You can usually buy 3G/HSDPA PCMCIA/USB modems very cheaply off ebay. Normally the cheapest ones are locked to a particular provider but you can get them unlocked over the internet for a small charge (~15Euro). The Vodafone/Huawei E220 is probably the most popular model in use over here. The E270/E272 should offer better performance in the future but our networks are still limited to 3.6Mbps (down) at the moment.

You can buy prepaid SIM cards at any mall or shopping centre for a nominal fee. You can also purchase airtime vouchers to load sufficient credit in order to purchase a data bundle. If you don't purchase a data bundle then the cost can be as much as ten times higher per megabyte.

Another option would be to rent a 3G/HSDPA card from one of the outlets at the airport.

Alternatively you might be able to make use of some of the WiFi hotspots which are available at most of the larger hotel chains. You can purchase vouchers online.

Just ask if you want any further information.

Take a look at this thread for more specific details about rental outlets and WiFi options.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=108573&highlight=Garden+Route
Vodacom WiFi hotspots
http://www.vodacom.co.za/services/mobile_data/wi-fi.jsp
Here is some information about unlocking datacards.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=116054&highlight=www.kulankendi.com

Vodacom prepaid and topup bundles
http://www.vodacom.co.za/services/mobile_data/vodacom_what_cost.jsp
MTN data bundle rates
http://www.mtn.co.za/?pid=248769
 
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Renting

Hi Yotch,

Thanks for all the info. I'll check with my family and see what phones they have just in case any of them are 3G capable. That would save renting or buying. But assuming rental is cheaper, where do I find that? Only at the airport, or locally in Uitenhage?

As for how these packages work, can you explain that more? Here we would purchase a plan that gives so many minutes of airtime, then a $40 or so fee per month extra for the internet. Minutes are minutes. Sadly, we do not use SIM cards and do not have GSM. Well, there is GSM, but for idiotic reasons like the VHS vs. BETA fiasco, the US started with its own system. You can get GSM from 1 or 2 carriers, but the coverage is minimal.

So I would need a phone or a PCMCIA card, right? Then both would take a SIM? What are all the pieces I need to buy for a package that would suit me for a month?

I can go the phone route, but then I would have to have a cable to connect it to the laptop, right? Or could I just use a PCMCIA card? The pricing by bandwidth is a killer. I am testing a little program to see what a typical per hour up and down is by megabytes. With minimal usage, I use about 10 to 20mb per hour. I have to check email, do a little browsing, then connect remotely to another computer using remote desktop. Even though the remote connection only passes keyboard and screen info back and forth, that can add up.

I'm guessing I need a minimum of 1GB, maybe more to tie in every other day. What would be the bottom line price do you think to get what I need?

I suppose I can find a coffee shop in Uitenhage and drive to it for 2 hours every other day and see what that rate would be. Are the Wi-Fi spots unlimited usage and just billed by the hour? Then I can compare that to having a 3G connection from where I'll be staying. I'll look up coverage for Vodacom and MTN. Thanks for all the help.

Fred
 
Adsl

Hi, yet another option would be to order ADSL or cable, or whatever is available hard-line into Gambleville, Uitenhage. Do you think I could install that by getting the telco to do what it needs, then get a service provider with the minutes/megs I need, then just return all the stuff and cancel it at the end of the month?

Fred
 
@Fred: The minimum duration for an ADSL service would be 2 months I think. There may be a R200 additional service cancellation fee. In your case the Telkom Do Level 1 broadband would probably be the simplest option @R199 per month for 1GB of data. The Do Level 2 would give you ~4GB for R258 per month. The only problem is availability and the installation time. You would need to get your relatives to check directly with Telkom about availability in this area. Installation times vary considerably but if you pushed hard 2~3 weeks would probably be possible - maybe sooner. If you choose the self install option then installation is usually free and ADSL is activated at the exchange and the customer is required to connect and configure the modem/router. Do the relatives currently have a dialup connection? In many cases this may cost even more than one of the cheapest ADSL options as they would need to pay an ISP every month (R75~R150) as well as call charges to Telkom which vary between 17c and 38c per minute unless they have purchased a special after hours Internet call charge option which costs an additional R80~R150 per month. You should be able to install all the necessary ADSL equipment for them so this might be something that the relatives would benefit from after you leave. There are also cheaper ADSL options starting from R139 per month for 1GB but this would involve taking out a 12 month contract but I think that this includes a free router. You shouldn't worry too much about the small ADSL bandwidth allowance as you can purchase additional prepaid bandwidth very easily online or from garages, retail chains etc. once you have activated an ADSL service. The cost would be around R70 per gigabyte but there are cheaper options. Take a look at www.do.co.za for more details about Telkom's ADSL packages.

If you only want the service for two months then you will need to either supply your own router or ADSL modem. I would imagine that you should be able to purchase a secondhand device off ebay for a few dollars. Otherwise you could purchase a cheap simple modem online over here for ~R200 - routers cost between R250~R750. It would probably be simpler to choose a wireless ADSL modem router combination than to have a separate modem and router. Popular models that are being used over here include Billion, Dlink, Linksys, Netgear etc.

If you will need to use more than a few gigabytes of data then 3G/HSDPA is going to get quite expensive. These are the typical rental rates. You would have to look at either the 500Meg or 1GB monthly rate as the daily rate includes a R2.50 per megabyte charge i.e. ~R2500 per GB in addition to the R20 or R35 daily fee. You would probably need to rent the device at the airport.
STANDARD 384 kps R 20 p/day R 2.50 per MB
3G HSDPA 1.8 mps R 35 p/day R 2.50 per MB
Monthly Rate 3G or HSDPA
384kps/1.8mps R 499 per month including 500 MB free R 2.50 per MB
384kps/1.8mps R 699 per month including 1GB free R 2.50 per MB
http://www.rentafone.net/rates/3Gdatacards.htm

You could also just borrow a suitable cell phone as mentioned above. Most of the recent cell phones can connect via GPRS or EDGE although the performance will not be much better than standard dialup. 3G or HSDPA capable phones are not as common as they tend to be more expensive. Most phones can be connected to the PC via a USB type cable or via Bluetooth. You can also get PCMCIA, ExpressCard or USB type datacards. Each of these devices has a SIM card holder. You can use your airtime to make calls and to purchase data. A 500MB data bundle costs R189, 1GB - R289, 2GB - R389 etc. All of the bundles expire after 30 days. You can either purchase a prepaid airtime voucher (just a code on a till slip) or you can transfer money to a cell phone number via an autoteller machine at a bank. It might be simpler just to visit a cell phone shop and get them to configure the SIM for data, load the credit and purchase the bundle for you if you think this sounds a bit complicated. You will only need to purchase a bundle once unless you consume it too quickly. If you need to purchase a datacard take a look at several of the European ebay sites such as www.ebay.de, www.ebay.co.uk etc. to see if you can find a Huawei E220 at a reasonable price. I wouldn't spend more than 50 Euros. If not then look at the older HSDPA PCMCIA datacards. Just make sure that the card is 1.8Mbps capable and not one of the original 384K ones although these should be very cheap by now.

Since bandwidth is very expensive in SA, none of the WiFi hotspots usually provide unlimited access. Depending on your use you will probably find that 500MB or 1GB of data will be more cost effective than purchasing a certain number of minutes of hotspot access.

Dialup access is another possibility but this could work out much more expensive than ADSL or HSDPA if you need to use it during normal office hours as calls cost around 38c per minute i.e. ~R22.80 per hour. You can purchase prepaid ISP access for around R59 for one month's unlimited access (excluding phone charges) from Pick 'n Pay - SA's version of Walmart. If you only need to use the dialup connection at night you can purchase 75 hours worth of access for R80 i.e. total cost would be R59 (ISP) + R80 (dial plan) = R139 i.e. the same as the cheapest 1GB ADSL package which is faster and can be used at any time.
 
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Well, it's all coming together now :) Thanks so much for all the help. I am going to check with my in-laws and find out what phones they have. They already have phones, though maybe Vodacom which seems not to cover my area for 3G. If they aren't locked, then I could get a different SIM and get service. Maybe I can even add to their account so that instead of prepaid, I could add 3G service for a month on their account, add another phone, whatever, for the month, then have them cancel the 3G. If there isn't much price difference, then I could just get 2G of prepaid.

You can use the corner of starling and acacia in Thomas Gamble as my "hot spot". :) So I need to find a carrier with 4 bars there and 3G service. Vodacom, unless the map is wrong, stops 700m east. :(

Don't you think there is a benefit to the phone route vs. the E220? I have a phone AND a datamodem for the trip and can use the phone to still get on the internet if need be without the laptop, right? The key thing now then is to find a cheap G3 phone or rent one from the airport kiosk. I want to try and get all the pieces I need and 2GB of data and airtime for under R1400. Is it all on one sim at one price, or do I have to convert air time to data time and back if I am not balancing it right? I probably won't make many calls, but spend 2 hours every other day on average connected to the laptop.

Fred
 
sierra aircard

Is this Sierra Aircard 860 universal? Or do I have to make sure the card isn't for the wrong area? The 900mhz looks right for Vodacom, but it implies that HSDPA 3G is on 850 or 1900 and I'm not sure that is what Vodacom or MTN uses. Specs:

"The AirCard 860 is compatible with EDGE/GPRS/GSM networks on 850/900/1800/1900 mhz, offering users global access to information anytime, anywhere! The AirCard® 860 wide area PC Card also operates on 850 and 1900 MHz(UMTS & HSDPA) for North American & Asia Pacific customers and provides wireless access to the internet, e-mail and corporate applications."

Fred
 
This is probably not what you want to hear! The Sierra Aircard 860 should connect at GPRS/EDGE speeds in SA but not at 3G/HSDPA speeds as the North American frequencies are different. You need to make sure though that the datacard is unlocked. I wouldn't spend too much money in case you can't get 3G/HSDPA reception at your location even with an E220! From what I've heard Vodacom doesn't have an extensive EDGE network (largest 3G/HSDPA coverage though) so if you are planning to use the AC 860, MTN's better EDGE coverage might be a consideration. You might have to try both networks first to decide.
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_za.shtml
This poster claims to be using an AC 860 in SA presumably at GPRS/EDGE type speeds?
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=67924

Once you have purchased a data bundle you can't convert the leftover data back into airtime or cash - any leftover amount is lost after 30 days. Prepaid and contract data rates are the same. Personally I would rather use a prepaid data bundle to completely eliminate the possibility of ringing up a huge bill by connecting using the incorrect phone settings (such as CSD) etc. or having some type of virus downloading large volumes of data in the background. When your prepaid bundle and any remaining airtime is finished you get disconnected from the network. In the case of a contract bundle the system will just allow you to continue to download at the out of bundle rate of R2000 per GB - this is how some customers manage to rack up huge bills.

Usually datacards offer better performance than phones for the same price i.e. an E220 can download at 7.2Mbps (if the network is capable of this speed) which is considerably faster than any similarly priced phone. In your case though a phone might be more convenient as it would simplify recharging of airtime, activating SIM cards etc. and most phones should also be able to connect at EDGE speeds. If you purchase a data bundle on a particular SIM card, any data use is first subtracted from the stored data bundle while phone calls are deducted from the stored airtime. Once the data bundle has been depleted data use will continue to be deducted from the stored airtime at a rate of R2 per megabyte. The idea is to use the data bundle for internet access and the remaining stored airtime to make calls. It might be a good idea to purchase several prepaid SIMs (R1~R2 each) in case you need to purchase more than one data bundle from MTN in a 30 day period.

What phone are you planning on bringing along? Does it support GPRS or EDGE?
 
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Still trying to find a compatible phone, though I might rent one at the airport. Is the airtime and data time dual billed? In other words, is my airtime going down at the same time I am on the internet and using data? Or is it completely separate as I thought initially? And if separate, it is still on the same SIM and it knows that I have 1gb of data time left and say 10 hours of airtime left for voice? What did you mean in your last sentence about buying several pre-paid sims? You don't recharge the same SIM? They are sort of like phone cards where I buy one and if it runs out I get another? I was confused also by the R1-2 price since that seems like and "empty" SIM, no? Thanks again for all the help. I'm going on ebay for Option GT Max now and see what I can find and also looking at the Nokia 6xxxx. Don't remember the number.
 
I just realized the option 3g max is only a datacard, not a phone. I can get one here unlocked for under $100. Maybe that is my only choice so far. But I think the phone idea is better, right? I can make voice calls and do data, plus I was unsure of the card activating and charging. There have been lots of mentions of having to have a phone to do that to plug it into!
 
The simplest way to setup a datacard without a cell phone would be to visit a supermarket and purchase both an MTN as well as a Vodacom SIM (Starter Pack). Separate the SIM cards from the holders and take the respective SIMs to MTN and Vodacom cell phone shops. Tell them you want to test your data reception and purchase the smallest amounts of airtime available (R10 for MTN and R12 for Vodacom etc.) and ask them to activate your SIM for data, charge it with airtime and in the case of MTN load a 10Meg data bundle from the R10 airtime. You can find cell phone shops at most of the airports or in most shopping centres etc. You must first test both the Vodacom and MTN reception before charging your SIM card with a large amount of airtime. If the reception is poor you will have lost any credit that you have charged onto the SIM card i.e. you can't get a refund on any money that has been accidentally charged onto the SIM card. You always forfeit any unused airtime balance after a few months or any unused data bundles after 30 days. Insert your two SIM cards and decide on which network provides the best service. Only go back to the shop and purchase the 1 or 2 GB data bundle once you are sure that you will be able to use the service reliably. In the case of MTN you are not allowed to purchase a new bundle on the same SIM card for 30 days after the first bundle purchase. If you have a second SIM though you can just load the new bundle onto that. When you purchase a SIM card you get a small booklet of instructions on how to activate the SIM, load airtime and purchase data bundles etc. if you would prefer to do everything yourself.

Airtime can be used to either make calls or download data or both. Say you have loaded R110 of airtime on a Vodacom SIM (Starter Pack). You can either just go ahead and make phone calls at a rate of ~R3 per minute i.e. ~36 minutes of calls or you can use some of the airtime to purchase a data bundle. Assume you go ahead and purchase a MyMeg 75 data bundle for R88. The remaining airtime on your SIM will be reduced to R22 and you will now be able to download 75 Meg of data before the bundle is depleted. In the meantime you can still make calls which will be deducted from the remaining R22 of airtime at a rate of ~R3 per minute (actual amount depends on the cell/tel number) i.e. ~7 minutes of calls before the airtime is depleted. Even if the airtime has been depleted you can still download from the MyMeg 75 data bundle on the SIM until that has also been depleted. However, once the bundle has been depleted any remaining airtime on the SIM will automatically be used to cover the cost of any further downloads at a rate of R2 per megabyte until the remaining balance on the SIM card has reached zero. Consequently it is advisable only to load sufficient airtime to cover the cost of say a 1 or 2 gigabyte bundle and not to leave additional airtime on the SIM in case you deplete your bundle and are then accidentally charged the out of bundle rate of R2 per megabyte until the value of the SIM has been depleted. You can remove the SIM card at any time though to preserve the current value.

If you are looking at cell phones just make sure of the 3G/HSDPA download speed. Many of the older 3G phones can only download at 384Kbps - not much better than EDGE.

If you are still weighing up your options you might also want to look at Netgear DG834GT ADSL routers on ebay which is a very popular brand of router in SA.
http://search.ebay.com/Netgear-DG834GT_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40

Telkom Shop in Uitenhage
Branch Name: Uitenhage
Building: Pick n Pay
Floor / Office / Street Number: Shop 9A; Ground Floor
Street: 26 Graaff Reinette Road
Code: 6230
Fax Number: 0419226054
Business Hours
Mon - Thurs: 09:00 - 17:00
Friday: 09:00 - 17:00
Saturday: 09:00 - 13:00
Sunday: 09:00 - 13:00

Alternatively just call 10219 to order.
 
Yotch, I'm narrowing it down between the option 3g max card as my backup and some kind of cell phone. My first option is Nokia since I already have the DCU-2 cable to work with Nokia phones. Plus I know the menus :) There are so many models. Any recommendation on the cheapest phone that will do what I need. I looked at the E and N series and they seem to be way more expensive. I need Something around R375-700 or so. Do all Nokia 6234s support 3.6, or do they just do 384? Thanks again. ...Fred
 
I'm not a Nokia user so can't help you there but on the Samsung side of things the U700 was the 1st Samsung available here that could do HSDPA,maybe find one of those used somewhere,R700 might be pushing it tho.
 
Hi Fred

Not sure if the DCU-2 cable will work on 6234. If it is the cable with wide connector that plugs into the bottom - possibly not. Check nokia website, but I recall the trend is towards usb (mini usb like cameras).
6234 has similar menus to 6230 - Non Symbian basically.
 
@Fred: I think that the cheapest Nokia phone that supports HSDPA is the 6120 Classic.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Nokia-6120-...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

If that's too expensive you could purchase a very basic EDGE compatible Nokia phone such as the 2600 Classic or the 6085 etc. If you want something with a proper browser then you will need to spend more such as the EDGE compatible 5200 or 5300 (make sure that it supports 900MHz) or the 3G compatible 6233 and 6234 etc. You need to make sure that the US versions of these models all support 900/1800 MHz and 2100 MHz for 3G/HSDPA. The Nokia E and N series offer more features but also cost more etc. You will probably need to look at secondhand models in your price range and possibly different models or brands.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Nokia-6085...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There is a Telkom T-Zone hotspot in Uitenhage at the Waterford Hotel, 127 Durban Street if you really have problems.

Information about configuring and recharging new SIMs etc.
http://www.mtn.co.za/?pid=5933
http://www.vodacom.co.za/specificneeds/prepaid_customer_info.jsp

If you need to make regular phone calls to the US it might be worth testing out one of the Betamax callback Voip services like www.voipraider.com or www.12voip.com. You should be able to make ~5 hours worth of free calls to landlines in the US per week via a normal SA Telkom phone line. This could save quite a bit of expensive bandwidth for other tasks. They let you try out the service for 1 hour free of charge. A 10 Euro payment gets you 90 days of free service.
 
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What about a MOTOROLA RAZR V6 maxx, will that work? It seems to have 3.7 and the right frequencies.
 
I'd buy one of these for data (assuming that your laptop can accept PCMCIA cards) and a separate Nokia 1200 for voice (you can get a new phone for around R300 with a prepaid starter pack). http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/7511507/VODAFONE_Huawei_E630_HSDPA_3_6mbps_DATA_CARDS.html Under R1000 seems a reasonable price.

Get a Vodacom SIM and data bundle for the card, and a separate prepaid SIM for voice.

sorted...

edit: found a cheaper supplier http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/7621...S_MERLIN_u740_Never_to_be_repeated_price.html
and another:
http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/7594192/VODAFONE_HSDPA_3G_EDGE_GPRS_DATA_CARD.html
 
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How do you track your time?

Since you guys are billed by upload and download bytes, how do you track it? Does the phone tick it down, or do you just use a packet sniffer or network card monitor to try and guage how much you are using? Using a utility on my machine, I can see that my normal average use would be about 10 to 20 megabyes per hour if I don't use VoIP. Browsing and remotely connecting to another computer take a surprising amount of bandwidth. Not huge, but more than I would have thought.

Fred
 
Here are a few suggestions (when using the SA networks) ...

Vodacom data usage
To find out how much data you have used / available of your current data bundle:
i. Log onto www.vodacom4me.co.za (using your data card’s cellphone number), and go to the My Account Account Info menu option
ii. SMS the letters MM to 31050 from the Vodafone Mobile Connect Software (free service)
iii. Click on the ‘View Usage’ button in the Vodafone Mobile Connect Software – as an indication of data usage. Note that this may not always be 100% accurate due to various technical reasons – such as viruses, spy ware, etc

MTN data usage
http://www.mtn.co.za/default.aspx?pid=242246&mid=242245#a_258295
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-39793.html

Otherwise maybe you could try some software like DU Meter or NetMeter - www.dumeter.com, http://www.metal-machine.de/readerror/
 
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