Weight Loss Thread 2014

[D4N]

You might be swapping fat for muscle? Perhaps take measurements and work off of that?

Yeah I don't know, it's only the last two weeks that I've lifted every second day, before that once a week. I'm hovering around 99 kg and I'm aiming for 94 kg (1.95 m tall).

The keto sticks are also not showing excess ketones anymore (did show purple a few weeks ago). Any ideas?

 

[babyfacek]

Hi all. I have just joined on this forum, also on the weight loss road. I have neglected my weight for years, now taking action. Trying to do calorie counting. Sugar is my biggest enemy and I am cutting out. i have lost 3 kgs since beginning of the year though I have started actively watching what I eat last month. Hope I can keep it up. I want to lose 36kgs in total in a period of 2 years

 

[bob1]

Good luck babyfacek. Try LCHF, you'll be surprised how easy it is

 

[babyfacek]

Good luck babyfacek. Try LCHF, you'll be surprised how easy it is

Wow! I just read through it, its hectic stuff. I have to condition my mind for it. I will try though.

 

[bob1]

Wow! I just read through it, its hectic stuff. I have to condition my mind for it. I will try though.

Not really. Stop eating sugar an grains and you are 80% there

 

[Chicken Boo]

I have the exact same problem, the scale is going nowhere, this is what I typically eat:

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I suspect I don't eat enough fat and too much protein

So the scale is going nowhere, what's happening in the mirror and with belt notches? Don't get hung up on numbers, they're largely meaningless.
You shouldn't expect to gain muscle and lose fat for a nett loss of weight. Muscular tissue is denser than fatty tissue. Quit the muscle building and focus on fat loss if you want to see the scale number come down.
Have you checked TDEE vs calories in?

 

[Chicken Boo]

Another silly woolworth's label:

Haha! I remember getting quite confused about labels regarding fibre, glycemic values etc., I think I even asked about it in this thread or the previous one. Glad to see I'm not the only one!

Frankly I've had about enough of Woolworths. I queried something on one of their other products and didn't get any response at all, not even the auto-response. In the past their replies have been the wrong mix of slow and useless.

Anyway at R4 an avo who needs Woolworths or any other kind of food

 

[mister]

Frankly I've had about enough of Woolworths. I queried something on one of their other products and didn't get any response at all, not even the auto-response. In the past their replies have been the wrong mix of slow and useless.

I hear you. I also get either no response, more bull****, or lies about getting back to me (they don't).

 

[D4N]

So the scale is going nowhere, what's happening in the mirror and with belt notches? Don't get hung up on numbers, they're largely meaningless.
You shouldn't expect to gain muscle and lose fat for a nett loss of weight. Muscular tissue is denser than fatty tissue. Quit the muscle building and focus on fat loss if you want to see the scale number come down.
Have you checked TDEE vs calories in?

Yeah you're probably right, clothes seem to fit a lot looser these days. I'm fixated with a target weight of 94kg which is 25 on the BMI scale (below overweight) but I have a large frame and I realise that BMI is not the be and and all when it comes to obesity. I only do some weight training to fight the muscle catabolism I've been experiencing the last few months

 

[tRoN]

So the scale is going nowhere, what's happening in the mirror and with belt notches? Don't get hung up on numbers, they're largely meaningless.
You shouldn't expect to gain muscle and lose fat for a nett loss of weight. Muscular tissue is denser than fatty tissue. Quit the muscle building and focus on fat loss if you want to see the scale number come down.
Have you checked TDEE vs calories in?

I have lost about 5 kg. now 77kg
What I've noticed is that my pants did get looser BUT my belly still looks fat!
It seems I may be losing fat on my upper body and waist but not the belly...what can I expect?

 

[Chicken Boo]

I have lost about 5 kg. now 77kg
What I've noticed is that my pants did get looser BUT my belly still looks fat!
It seems I may be losing fat on my upper body and waist but not the belly...what can I expect?

Expect to be patient
Your body will usually take the fat off in the same order it put it there, the only difference is that now you're keenly eyeing the process. For most guys the belly is the first place fat goes and so the last place it comes from. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll get there.

 

[LazyLion]

WEIGHT LOSS EVEN WITH HIGH CARB DIET: STUDY

A person can lose weight even on a high carbohydrate diet, according to a study released this week.

The study, led by University of Stellenbosch senior researcher Celeste Naude, was published on Wednesday in the online medical journal "Plus One".

"Trials show weight loss in the short-term, irrespective of whether the diet is low CHO [carbohydrate] or balanced in terms of its macronutrient composition," the researchers said.

It was conducted on 3209 people who are overweight, have diabetes, or other conditions such as hypertension.

Pregnant and breastfeeding women and individuals younger than 18 were excluded from the study.

Some widely-promoted weight loss diets, such as the Atkins diet, recommended a regimen greatly restricting carbohydrates, with increased protein and unrestricted total and saturated fat intake, the researchers said.

"It is plausible that these low CHO diets could be harmful, especially over the longer term," according to the research.

"We therefore sought to determine whether low CHO diets have any beneficial or harmful effects on weight and cardiovascular risk factors when compared to balanced diets."

University of Cape Town sport scientist Prof Tim Noakes is one of those who encourages a low carbohydrate, high fat (LCHF) diet.

He said the data analysed during the study was not representative of "the real world".

"I agree with their findings but the data they analysed are not representative of the real world," he told Sapa on Thursday.

"In the real world, the LCHF is the only diet that works. If their diet worked, we would not have an obesity crisis which began immediately after we were told to eat higher carbohydrate diets."

The findings did not attempt to show the benefit of the low carbohydrate diet, which is to reduce hunger, whereas low fat diets increase hunger and as a result are unsustainable in the long term, he said.

Naude said the study aimed to educate by making scientific evidence available.

"People making decisions about following any diet should have reliable scientific information so that they are able to make a good and informed decision," she said on Thursday.


Source : Sapa /mr/gm/th/jje
Date : 10 Jul 2014 10:33

 

[Pooky]

Did he really say?: 'in the real world, the LCHF is the only diet that works'.

Seems a bit strange to say something like that

 

[FuLL_MeT4L]

Did he really say?: 'in the real world, the LCHF is the only diet that works'.

Seems a bit strange to say something like that

Noakes says a lot of extreme things these days. As a result of his fanaticism I often have to explain to people that I follow LCHF, and not Noakes. While I agree with a lot of what he says, and LCHF generally, Noakes certainly says a lot of things that I just cannot back given the lack of good data available.

 

[Obieone]

WEIGHT LOSS EVEN WITH HIGH CARB DIET: STUDY

A person can lose weight even on a high carbohydrate diet, according to a study released this week.

The study, led by University of Stellenbosch senior researcher Celeste Naude, was published on Wednesday in the online medical journal "Plus One".

"Trials show weight loss in the short-term, irrespective of whether the diet is low CHO [carbohydrate] or balanced in terms of its macronutrient composition," the researchers said.

It was conducted on 3209 people who are overweight, have diabetes, or other conditions such as hypertension.

Pregnant and breastfeeding women and individuals younger than 18 were excluded from the study.

Some widely-promoted weight loss diets, such as the Atkins diet, recommended a regimen greatly restricting carbohydrates, with increased protein and unrestricted total and saturated fat intake, the researchers said.

"It is plausible that these low CHO diets could be harmful, especially over the longer term," according to the research.

"We therefore sought to determine whether low CHO diets have any beneficial or harmful effects on weight and cardiovascular risk factors when compared to balanced diets."

University of Cape Town sport scientist Prof Tim Noakes is one of those who encourages a low carbohydrate, high fat (LCHF) diet.

He said the data analysed during the study was not representative of "the real world".

"I agree with their findings but the data they analysed are not representative of the real world," he told Sapa on Thursday.

"In the real world, the LCHF is the only diet that works. If their diet worked, we would not have an obesity crisis which began immediately after we were told to eat higher carbohydrate diets."

The findings did not attempt to show the benefit of the low carbohydrate diet, which is to reduce hunger, whereas low fat diets increase hunger and as a result are unsustainable in the long term, he said.

Naude said the study aimed to educate by making scientific evidence available.

"People making decisions about following any diet should have reliable scientific information so that they are able to make a good and informed decision," she said on Thursday.


Source : Sapa /mr/gm/th/jje
Date : 10 Jul 2014 10:33

Of course you can lose weight on a hi carb diet, but you have to restrict calories.I lost 15kg between 2006 and 2007 on HCLF. and then it stopped working for me mainly due to being hungry all the time and bingeing. Every man to his own I suspect, lo carb for me until proved otherwise.

 

[Obieone]

Noakes says a lot of extreme things these days. As a result of his fanaticism I often have to explain to people that I follow LCHF, and not Noakes. While I agree with a lot of what he says, and LCHF generally, Noakes certainly says a lot of things that I just cannot back given the lack of good data available.

Agreed, until I read Gary Taubes book I was not 100% convinced either.

 

[mister]

Of course you can lose weight on a hi carb diet, but you have to restrict calories.I lost 15kg between 2006 and 2007 on HCLF. and then it stopped working for me mainly due to being hungry all the time and bingeing. Every man to his own I suspect, lo carb for me until proved otherwise.

I also lost weight on a HCLF diet... including a lot of muscle...

 

[konfab]

Did he really say?: 'in the real world, the LCHF is the only diet that works'.

Seems a bit strange to say something like that

Most people in South Africa cannot afford his diet(Or lifestyle as everyone likes to day). That is the real world side of things.

 

[googoodoll]

Most people in South Africa cannot afford his diet(Or lifestyle as everyone likes to day). That is the real world side of things.

I get a little upset when people say this way of eating is expensive. Saw an article in the Sarie about LCHF that also said people must be careful because it is very expensive. Compared to what? Its A LOT cheaper than weigh less or any other 'healthy diet' options out there. If you are comparing it to a high carb diet, maybe cereal or bread is cheaper than bacon and eggs but you will eat a lot more if you are eating a lot of carbs which will end up costing more anyway. Also, LCHF doesn't get you the cravings you get with a HC diet, so you will spend less on sugary drinks and snacks. Apart from the cost of the actual food, what are the cost implications associated with lifestyle diseases caused by bad eating habits in the long run?

 

[copacetic]

I think one major component when it comes to cost is the suggestion that everything be organic and free of x, y and z.

This is obviously a good health choice, but I don't think it's economically feasible for everyone. Myself, I simply cannot afford to eat meat from happy pastured cows and organic eggs at three times the price of normal eggs.

I try the best I can to eat healthily, and in the context of the LCHF diet don't eat much (if anything) I should not. It's true that you eat less in general, and the craving for extraneous food does not exist for me as well.

At the moment, I eat a stir-fry with a piece of protein in the evening, and use the leftovers for scrambled eggs in the morning. This probably costs about 25/30 bucks a day. That's surely not very expensive...