Weight Loss Thread 2014

CamiKaze said:
Ok what am i doing wrong?
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It is not a great eating plan, starting with the Future Life, read the contents, nothing good, they should call it future death, but then the marketing would be harder:D

Anyhow OMB is the educator, I just take what works for me, just read his posts in the other thread if you want an idea of what he says.
 
CamiKaze said:
My diet for the last 2 days
Future Life in the morning.
(2 Bananas) or an (apple and orange) for lunch.
and some chicken strips for dinner.
I throw in an occasional Provita and smoked mussel every now and then during the course of the day.
Going good so far.
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There is so much to learn, but here are a few pointers:

1. Future life is not food, you could not pay me to eat that garbage.

2. If you are overweight you probably have metabolic syndrome and should stay far away from fruit due to the fructose content.

3. Provitas are not food.

4. Such a small amount of calories is not sustainable in the long term
 
lived666 said:
It is not a great eating plan, starting with the Future Life, read the contents, nothing good, they should call it future death, but then the marketing would be harder:D

Anyhow OMB is the educator, I just take what works for me, just read his posts in the other thread if you want an idea of what he says.
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thanks, you give me too much credit :)

Okay so here's the 1st basic lesson for the new people that have joined the thread but haven't done the research.

The first thing you need to understand is what makes us fat? (I'll try and keep this really simple)

Our body regulates fat storage and usage through various hormonal mechanisms (understand that we are a chemical engine, not a heat engine - this is important and relates to the concept of CICO or calories in vs calories out which is fundamentally flawed).

The primary fat regulating hormone is insulin, so in order to manage our fat storage we need to manage our insulin secretion. Insulin secretion is triggered mainly in response to carbohydrates as insulin is required to convert carbs into fuel for the body and any excess fuel created in this process is stored as fat, however the insulin mechanism cannot unlock the fat once it's stored, hence when we have a diet consisting of high levels of sugar and carbohydrates we become fatter (I'm keeping this very simple for now)

So the key thing to remember is that if you want to lose weight (I prefer to talk about losing fat) then we need to manage our fat creation mechanism which is insulin. Manage your insulin and you manage you fat storage/usage.

The second thing is to forget everything you've ever been told about nutrition (we've been fed misinformation, bad science and personal opinion for the last 40/50 years).

Fats are not the enemy they been made out to be, in fact if you want to lose weight the consumption of the correct fats is critical, the whole issue of fat and cholesterol linked to CHD (heart disease) is a myth and more and more research is showing that. However, there are good fats and bad fats, you need to learn the difference.

The third thing you can do is educate yourself on the above - the biggest problem is that there is a whole host of information out there based on the misinformation and bad science I mentioned earlier, finding the good science is getting easier but it is still frowned upon by many as it is considered contradictory the prevalent beliefs.

If you want to look for local information just look for Tim Noakes latest stuff, I bought his "The Real Meal Revolution" for the holidays and it's got some good information regarding the science of nutrition as well as a whole host of recipes.

Looking internationally I follow Gary Taubes who has done tons of investigative research on the science of nutrition, his book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" is very scientific but an excellent resource, for those less inclined to read all the science his follow on book "Why we get fat and what we can do about it" is recommended reading.

Dr Peter Attia is also someone worth reading although again his blog can be very heavy on the science side. Pete Attia and Gary Taubes collaborate quite a lot and there's some good videos on youtube for those that don't want to read.

I'll post more resources later for those that may be interested.
 
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Hmmm, ok so...since I went about this the wrong way, can any of you post your meal plans for the day please.

Any of you tried the blood type diet?
 
CamiKaze said:
Hmmm, ok so...since I went about this the wrong way, can any of you post your meal plans for the day please.

Any of you tried the blood type diet?
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You also mentioned you have a slow metabolism. If you eat such low calories your body's going to compensate by slowing your metabolism even more to conserve energy.

Most of us from last year's thread are doing paleo/keto/low carb.
 
This year I really plan to stick to a really strict diet for weight loss.

Last year I was having:

Breakfast: 2 or 3 Boiled Eggs
Lunch: Biltong or nuts
Supper: Salad and either chicken / beef / fish.

I avoided rice, pasta, and potatoes. I had other greens like spinach, cabbage, etc. I have also cut out sugar and milk. My coffee's are now pure black...no sugar no milk...its so nice. I hope to make my menu a lot better this year :)

I cut out all drinks...I have water only. I used to drink Coke Light or Coke Zero, did a little research, and saw it is still bad.
 
I hate to be the person to put a spanner in the works but the key to losing weight is as simple as :

1. Cut down on eating too much processed food. Eat a balanced diet with unprocessed meats, fruits, vegetables and starches.
2. Get some exercise - excercise will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to burn more calories at rest, as will building up muscle mass (muscle mass requires calories to maintain.)

It really is that simple. All these paleo and low carb diets are a scam to sell books.

The simple fact is that the obesity epidemic didn't start when we left the stone age and started farming, it started towards the end of the 20th century when lifestyles got a lot more sedentary (Too much TV and spending all day behind a desk at work.) and highly processed, fatty, sugary, high calorie meals.

Society was much thinner in the 1950's and as far as I am aware people were farming and eating starches back then.

You can make amazing meals that are balanced and taste great.

An example of a healthy meal is:

A jacket potato baked in foil, scored with a tiny (5-6 grams) of butter and a sprig of rosemary
1/2 a gem squash with cinamon
A small portion of meat (red white or blue), grilled or baked (not fried) and well seasoned.
 
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fsckit...going to Ocean Basket now to order a lunch special and replace the chips with mixed veg while I think of a new diet plan...

I thought I was on the right track...:whistle: fsck
 
Ol' Mean Bastid said:
thanks, you give me too much credit :)

Okay so here's the 1st basic lesson for the new people that have joined the thread but haven't done the research.

The first thing you need to understand is what makes us fat? (I'll try and keep this really simple)

Our body regulates fat storage and usage through various hormonal mechanisms (understand that we are a chemical engine, not a heat engine - this is important and relates to the concept of CICO or calories in vs calories out which is fundamentally flawed).

The primary fat regulating hormone is insulin, so in order to manage our fat storage we need to manage our insulin secretion. Insulin secretion is triggered mainly in response to carbohydrates as insulin is required to convert carbs into fuel for the body and any excess fuel created in this process is stored as fat, however the insulin mechanism cannot unlock the fat once it's stored, hence when we have a diet consisting of high levels of sugar and carbohydrates we become fatter (I'm keeping this very simple for now)

So the key thing to remember is that if you want to lose weight (I prefer to talk about losing fat) then we need to manage our fat creation mechanism which is insulin. Manage your insulin and you manage you fat storage/usage.

The second thing is to forget everything you've ever been told about nutrition (we've been fed misinformation, bad science and personal opinion for the last 40/50 years).

Fats are not the enemy they been made out to be, in fact if you want to lose weight the consumption of the correct fats is critical, the whole issue of fat and cholesterol linked to CHD (heart disease) is a myth and more and more research is showing that. However, there are good fats and bad fats, you need to learn the difference.

The third thing you can do is educate yourself on the above - the biggest problem is that there is a whole host of information out there based on the misinformation and bad science I mentioned earlier, finding the good science is getting easier but it is still frowned upon by many as it is considered contradictory the prevalent beliefs.

If you want to look for local information just look for Tim Noakes latest stuff, I bought his "The Real Meal Revolution" for the holidays and it's got some good information regarding the science of nutrition as well as a whole host of recipes.

Looking internationally I follow Gary Taubes who has done tons of investigative research on the science of nutrition, his book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" is very scientific but an excellent resource, for those less inclined to read all the science his follow on book "Why we get fat and what we can do about it" is recommended reading.

Dr Peter Attia is also someone worth reading although again his blog can be very heavy on the science side. Pete Attia and Gary Taubes collaborate quite a lot and there's some good videos on youtube for those that don't want to read.

I'll post more resources later for those that may be interested.
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Read Noakes latest book and did a bit of reading up after too on the high fat, medium protein, low carbs eating plan (it is not a diet - its an eating plan you commit to for life). My wife and I started it and I have lost 1.5kg's in the first 8 days. Some people say it must be water, well maybe its a little water...but have been drinking a lot of water too - so that counteracts their argument.

I eat smaller portions now, as it feels like my stomach has shrunk. Think it has though, as I went for a run on Monday afternoon and was hungry...so dished up a large plate of food for dinner. Stupid move...felt so full after, you know the kind where you eat too much and feel sick. Not doing that again!

Anyways...Noakes states not all people should take in the recommended 50g of carbs a day (this does not mean literally 50g of bread or 50g of carrots - talking about carbs here). I need a bit more then 50g a day, as I dont think I'm as insulin resistant as he is...so I probably sit at about 80-100g a day. Had very little carbs yesterday and didnt feel great...so I know I need a little more than some on this plan. It's tough though...all the good stuff are carb loaded, cakes, bread (what I would give for a peanut butter and jam sarmie) etc.

To sum up...been Banting for almost 2 weeks now, on this eating plan I eat less quantity wise, feel fuller for longer and have more energy. Oh...the weight loss is great too :D

EDIT: Know its only been a week roughly, so who knows what the next weeks hold on this eating plan...but will keep you guys posted each week with a weigh in.

Weight before
86.8kg

Weight with Banting eating plan
Week 1: 84.7kg (Mon 6 Jan)
 
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BobsLawnService said:
I hate to be the person to put a spanner in the works but the key to losing weight is as simple as :

1. Cut down on eating too much processed food. Eat a balanced diet with unprocessed meats, fruits, vegetables and starches. Wrong - Limited fruit and no starch
2. Get some exercise - excercise will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to burn more calories at rest, as will building up muscle mass (muscle mass requires calories to maintain.) To a degree, however exercise only contributes about 10% to weight loss and not everyone wants to build muscle

It really is that simple. All these paleo and low carb diets are a scam to sell books. definitely not - if you do the research and understand physiology it's quite evident that low carb is the right thing to do

The simple fact is that the obesity epidemic didn't start when we left the stone age and started farming, it started towards the end of the 20th century when lifestyles got a lot more sedentary (Too much TV and spending all day behind a desk at work.) and highly processed, fatty, sugary, high calorie meals. wrong again you're working on exactly the misinformation and bad science that I already alluded to

Society was much thinner in the 1950's and as far as I am aware people were farming and eating starches back then. maybe so but it was around this time that the US government started demonising fats and pushing carbohydrates as the solution to heart disease, this is what in effect has caused the obesity epidemic
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these issues where discussed in the 2013 weight loss thread and have been refuted extensively by science
 
CamiKaze said:
Hmmm, ok so...since I went about this the wrong way, can any of you post your meal plans for the day please.

Any of you tried the blood type diet?
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there is no scientific evidence to indicate that the blood type diet actually works
 
BobsLawnService said:
I hate to be the person to put a spanner in the works but the key to losing weight is as simple as :

1. Cut down on eating too much processed food. Eat a balanced diet with unprocessed meats, fruits, vegetables and starches.
2. Get some exercise - excercise will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to burn more calories at rest, as will building up muscle mass (muscle mass requires calories to maintain.)
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Exercise will contribute maybe 10% max. The rest of it is what you put in your body ;)
 
So far today I had:

Breakfast - Boiled egg + black coffee
Snack - Cucumber + Green tea
Lunch - Cherry tomatoes + ham
Dessert - Dates

Going to be eating less fruit from now on. Woke up a bit late today so just grabbed what I could :o
 
ShaunSA said:
Exercise will contribute maybe 10% max. The rest of it is what you put in your body ;)
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That 10% sounds like a bit of a thumbsuck.

I do agree that a healthy diet is a vital part of being healthy and combating obesity. I just think that over the long term fad diets and forcing your body to go into ketostasis is not the way to go.

Eating a healthy, balanced diet and exercising regularly won't show the immediate results that a crash protein diet will but it is more sustainable and I believe that over a long period it is a lot healthier for you.
 
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