Weight loss

So I was at the doctor now and she said my colon is very unhappy :(
Also said I should stop taking myprodol...
 
Carrots are a high carb food but in the quantities in coleslaw it should be perfectly fine. But still - one portion of steak (250g?) vs one tablespoon of mayonnaise (50g so about 38g fat) is still way off the 4:1 ratio. Consider this - you've eaten 250g of protein. In order to reach your 4:1 ratio goal, you now need to consume 1kg of fat today. This is not a high protein diet. This is a mostly fat diet.

The 4:1 ratio is by weight, so you want to absolutely minimise your protein intake, or else you're bound to eat a kg of fat in a day, which will not be healthy at all - you'll destroy your pancreas and continued eating like that can lead to pancreatic cancer. It also means that portion control is essential. You do actually need to lower your portion size of protein and carbs to avoid having to eat so much damn fat.

You have to think smart with this diet. Fry in butter, eat cream, munch fatty bacon, eat eggs, make custards with non-alcohol based sweeteners (alcohol sweeteners are anti-ketogenic) etc.

Also guys, with regards to eggs, they are 11% fat and 13% protein. So rather munch more yolks than whites, which is why custards are fantastic for this diet. But also remember that too much dairy will cause you to get constipated, so you have to balance it with lots of fibre. So avocado, cauliflower, broccoli, asparagus, celery, brinjals, mushrooms, cabbage, peppers and zuchinis have to start playing an important role in your diet.

So make a cauliflower and brocolli bake with hectic cheese sauce made with cream and butter.
Roast the veg, blend with cream and make an awesome soup.
Chuck mushrooms into meat-based dishes to reduce the protein required in the dish.
Grate cauliflower to make cauliflower rice instead of normal rice.
Slice zuchinis along the length to make pasta ribbons.
Make moussaka instead of lasagna.
Make coleslaw with your own mayonnaise so that you can increase the fat content of it.
Make tons of guacamole and fry up some zuchinis dipped in a blend of egg whites and corn flour (low carb) as a snack.
Learn to use emulsifiers to make high fat sauces that don't split.
Eat Mexican. Lots of chillis, paprika, cumin with vegetables etc. A tortilla wrap contains about 20g of carbs, so you can get away with one or two if you're keeping your fat intake up. Load it with guacamole, cheese, sour cream - it is perfect for this.
Wrap asparagus with bacon and make a blue cheese butter to drizzle over the top, with some grated lemon zest and/or a lemon butter emulsion. It's awesome.
Buy gluten-free noodles. Pasta is 75% carbs whereas rice noodles are 25%. So a 100g portion consists of only 25g of carbs. That is low carb.
And make tons of sauces for these things.
Make stock and freeze it in ice-cubes so when you want to make a sauce, it takes all of 10 minutes to prep. Like this one - fry onions and mushrooms in butter and oil on a very high temperature until both are brown. Add 1 cup of sherry. Flambe it until most of the alcohol is cooked out. Take off the heat, add in the cream, and two blocks of chicken stock. Season with salt and pepper to taste, and return to the heat on a lower temperature to get the consistency right. There's a classic French sauce in 5 minutes, done.
Oh, and fish. Good old fish. Eat tons of it. Not the breaded, crumbed, battered stuff. The fillets. And leave the skin on.

Pose some questions and I'll try to come up with some ideas for you if you like.
 
DJ a steak isn't pure protein. Generally it's about 20% fat, 25% protein. Depends how it's cooked of course...
Also, your 4 to 1 thing is calories NOT weight...
 
DJ... said:
It's a 16% carb food. That's fairly low carb even if you're eating 100g of the stuff...
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I think you need to do a bit more research into low carb ;)

It's not just about amounts, it's about GI and GL. Peanuts are a no-no on a low carb diet and I can confirm this. Eating them fires off my carb cravings like there's no tomorrow.
 
Sinbad said:
DJ a steak isn't pure protein. Generally it's about 20% fat, 25% protein. Depends how it's cooked of course...
Also, your 4 to 1 thing is calories NOT weight...
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This classic ketogenic diet contains a 4:1 ratio by weight of fat to combined protein and carbohydrate.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

True about the protein content. I'm too used to referring to meats as a protein.

A 250g steak requires 250g of fat intake to achieve 4:1 combined protein + carb ratio...
 
Sinbad said:
I think you need to do a bit more research into low carb ;)

It's not just about amounts, it's about GI and GL. Peanuts are a no-no on a low carb diet and I can confirm this. Eating them fires off my carb cravings like there's no tomorrow.
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In terms of the ketogenic diet, it makes no such distinction. It only looks at net carbs. There are more specialised ketogenic diets based on what I've seen that are more focused on specialised treatment of certain seizures, that require a low glycemic rate, but as far as the traditional ratios for ketosis are concerned, no distinction is made based on glycemic index...
 
You people are too complicated

Eat meat eggs and veg and the occassional fruit
Lift heavy Sh#t
??????
Profit!
 
DJ... said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

True about the protein content. I'm too used to referring to meats as a protein.

A 250g steak requires 250g of fat intake to achieve 4:1 combined protein + carb ratio...
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OK well in all my time low carbing, which is a lot, I generally managed to achieve excellent weight loss, with ketosis, with about 75% of my calories coming from fat and about 20% from protein.
That's pretty much close to 2:1 in terms of weight... And the great thing is it doesn't REALLY matter. As long as you're eating whole foods (not supplements/meal replacements/crap like that) you will be just fine in terms of your intake.
 
DrewChan said:
You people are too complicated

Eat meat eggs and veg and the occassional fruit
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Well, no. Some vegetables are bad for the ketogenic diet. Potatoes for one. Eggs have a lot of protein and the key to achieving ketosis is a 4:1 ratio (been studied since the 1920s and confirmed). So you need more yolk than white. Fruits are incredibly high in sugar. You want fruits that will assist the digestion to avoid further problems, which will also by the way inhibit fat absorption rates. So only certain fruits are beneficial.

If you follow the basic rule of 4:1 then you start to realise how much more difficult it is than simply munching steak, egg and fruits. You might increase your fat intake, but you're not necessarily achieving a state of ketosis in your body, which is the goal...
 
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DJ... said:
the key to achieving ketosis is a 4:1 ratio (been studied since the 1920s and confirmed).
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Incorrect.

The key to achieving ketosis is low carb intake. That is all. The rest does not matter. You could live on lean steak and still be in ketosis.

much more difficult it is than simply munching steak, egg and fruits
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That's because the fruit is keeping you out of ketosis with its high fructose content.
 
DJ... said:
DrewChan said:
You people are too complicated

Eat meat eggs and veg and the occassional fruit/QUOTE]

Well, no. Some vegetables are bad for the ketogenic diet. Potatoes for one. Eggs have a lot of protein and the key to achieving ketosis is a 4:1 ratio (been studied since the 1920s and confirmed). So you need more yolk than white. Fruits are incredibly high in sugar. You want fruits that will assist the digestion to avoid further problems, which will also by the way inhibit fat absorption rates. So only certain fruits are beneficial.

If you follow the basic rule of 4:1 then you start to realise how much more difficult it is than simply munching steak, egg and fruits. You might increase your fat intake, but you're not necessarily achieving a state of ketosis in your body, which is the goal...
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Sounds complicated to me :D
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