What car to get?

Brenden_E said:
And this is why you can't argue with old and whack forumites. Straight up in your face quote that turbos are more efficient and he'll find a way to continue arguing about it.

OK grandpa, I'm sure most of us think about engine size(because size matters) and not power/torque.
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Turbos are less efficient than non turbos, just accept the fact as any learned person does.
 
PostmanPot said:
Turbos are less efficient than non turbos, just accept the fact as any learned person does.
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I just gave you a quote from an engineering magazine that it's not. You want a link? Will you go cry in a corner then?
Not sure if I should do it. Your entire world may come tumbling down.
 
SauRoNZA said:
OF COURSE a car with the same capacity fitted with a turbo will burn more fuel...it's making more power. Nobody would put a turbo in a car to make the same power with the same capacity...because that' would be retarded.
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Thank you. But the point is that most people who are not in the know think that a turbo is more efficient.

Of course a lower capacity engine with a turbo is more efficient than a higher capacity N/A engine.
 
PostmanPot said:
Thank you. But the point is that most people who are not in the know think that a turbo is more efficient.

Of course a lower capacity engine with a turbo is more efficient than a higher capacity N/A engine.
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English must not be your first language. No clue what efficient means.
 
Brenden_E said:
Yep, no clue.
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Brenden_E said:
O my...
This guy just went full retard.

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http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a12765/4306310/

Now that we're in the midst of another kind of energy crisis, the turbocharger is back. Ford is particularly aggressive with the technology and plans to replace many of its V8 engines with twin-turbo V6s and use turbo four-cylinder engines to supplant V6s.
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Don't see them turboing V8s for more fuel efficiency.
 
PostmanPot said:
Thank you. But the point is that most people who are not in the know think that a turbo is more efficient.

Of course a lower capacity engine with a turbo is more efficient than a higher capacity N/A engine.
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Well I'm still not sure where you stand on your statement then.

Basically what is being said from my understanding is that a 150 kw 2.0 Turbo engine will be more efficient than a 150 kw 3.0 litre NA engine.

So therefore with the same power output in mind the Turbo is more efficient as it offers the same power for less fuel.
 
Brenden_E said:
It seems full retard was not even his final form.
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The only thing Postmanpot is worried about is being "right" whether it makes him look like an imbecile or not.

Just to clarify they often use turbos in these cars that use little 1000-1200cc engines to reduce the fuel efficiency to more normal levels. What happens is cars with big V8's, they are soo fuel inefficient already that no turbo is needed, isn't engineering amazing!
Nawt.

In connection with how turbos are implemented in most modern production cars, they are utilized for net efficiency.
 
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SauRoNZA said:
Well I'm still not sure where you stand on your statement then.

Basically what is being said from my understanding is that a 150 kw 2.0 Turbo engine will be more efficient than a 150 kw 3.0 litre NA engine.

So therefore with the same power output in mind the Turbo is more efficient as it offers the same power for less fuel.
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Obviously...

Compare a 2.0 turbo and a 2.0 N/A, the N/A will be more fuel efficient. We are only focussing on fuel efficiency here.

The OP can tell us exactly what they meant by "turbo likely means better with fuel consumption", but I'm telling you that a lot of laymen incorrectly believe a turbo is more fuel efficient in like-for-like engine capacities. We are only focussing on fuel efficiency here.
 
PostmanPot said:
Obviously...

Compare a 2.0 turbo and a 2.0 N/A, the N/A will be more fuel efficient. We are only focussing on fuel efficiency here.

The OP can tell us exactly what they meant by "turbo likely means better with fuel consumption", but I'm telling you that a lot of laymen incorrectly believe a turbo is more fuel efficient in like-for-like engine capacities. We are only focussing on fuel efficiency here.
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Am I right or am I wrong?
 
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