What gym supplements are you using ?

syntax said:
I did a quick guestimate (could be totally wrong) but this still doesnt seem close to 8000 calories. I would guess around the 5k mark. This is also eating every 2 hours for 12 hours, you would need to add another 2 large meals or so I believe and then fit in cardio and your gym session.
How do you even fit in work with this and how are you able to exercise with being this full?
How much time do you spend on the toilet? I eat a ton and when I upped my calories I literally lost about an hour a day just because of how much I have to push out
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He's either trolling or hasn't been doing this for long. That's ±500g-600g of protein a day for 94kg guy.

But respect for having the determination.
 
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haha , you guys. been going for over a decade. And my body is weird. Just how it is. I need extremes. All my body responds to.

THats how the diet was calcluated. I dont count the calories myself. and I doubt the diet lady doesnt know what shes doing cause shes the first thats given me good reliable results. And yes, I goto the bathroom after every meal. Need to make space.

I wprk at home so prepare all the food night before, and pretty much eat all day.

Im sure I missed a few things off the diet as its ona paper on the fridge, but I dont want to take a picture as I pay for this and Im sure she wont want me giving her work away forr free.

But to each his own. Think what you wanna think , Ive trained with many an IFBB and pro athelete and Im very very much on par give or take my dodgy knee and broken hands.
 
WorldWarII said:
haha , you guys. been going for over a decade. And my body is weird. Just how it is. I need extremes. All my body responds to.

THats how the diet was calcluated. I dont count the calories myself. and I doubt the diet lady doesnt know what shes doing cause shes the first thats given me good reliable results. And yes, I goto the bathroom after every meal. Need to make space.

I wprk at home so prepare all the food night before, and pretty much eat all day.

Im sure I missed a few things off the diet as its ona paper on the fridge, but I dont want to take a picture as I pay for this and Im sure she wont want me giving her work away forr free.

But to each his own. Think what you wanna think , Ive trained with many an IFBB and pro athelete and Im very very much on par give or take my dodgy knee and broken hands.
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Do you make a living doing this, or is it just for yourself? Coz it sounds a helluva commitment.
 
Meister-Man said:
Do you make a living doing this, or is it just for yourself? Coz it sounds a helluva commitment.
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I was a boxer in my younger days and when I became a father I left the party and booz life behind. I find gym keeps me grounded. Was training to compete for mens Classic Bodybuilding before lockdown. Not 100% sure where I am going now , I got the diet and so on and just stuck with it
 
WorldWarII said:
haha , you guys. been going for over a decade. And my body is weird. Just how it is. I need extremes. All my body responds to.

THats how the diet was calcluated. I dont count the calories myself. and I doubt the diet lady doesnt know what shes doing cause shes the first thats given me good reliable results. And yes, I goto the bathroom after every meal. Need to make space.

I wprk at home so prepare all the food night before, and pretty much eat all day.

Im sure I missed a few things off the diet as its ona paper on the fridge, but I dont want to take a picture as I pay for this and Im sure she wont want me giving her work away forr free.

But to each his own. Think what you wanna think , Ive trained with many an IFBB and pro athelete and Im very very much on par give or take my dodgy knee and broken hands.
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Did a google, seems Ronnie Coleman revealed he ate around 5400 calories a day.
I just dont see how a "weird" body can somehow burn 2600 calories more than someone who weighed 130Kg and still stay lean.
I dont doubt its possible to consume 8000 calories, i doubt that being maintenance.
 
I can't get my head around that food. Also training various bodybuilding and powerlifting routines and diets for more than 10 years and I look like I do.

I use a scale for most of my meals and count my calories and maintain close to your size with clear abs for most of the year at 3300 to 3500 with the odd skipload 5000 calorie day. If I cut to training 3 days a week only with no cardio 90kg at 3000 is maintainable and can still incline bench 60kg dumbells without a spot. Barely! No steroids. Sarms yes GW and Cardarine.
 
Sensorei said:
I can't get my head around that food. Also training various bodybuilding and powerlifting routines and diets for more than 10 years and I look like I do.

I use a scale for most of my meals and count my calories and maintain close to your size with clear abs for most of the year at 3300 to 3500 with the odd skipload 5000 calorie day. If I cut to training 3 days a week only with no cardio 90kg at 3000 is maintainable and can still incline bench 60kg dumbells without a spot. Barely! No steroids. Sarms yes GW and Cardarine.
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My calories are basically the same. 3500 a day with my cheat day on average 5000. Can’t see myself eating more than that.
 
Sensorei said:
I can't get my head around that food. Also training various bodybuilding and powerlifting routines and diets for more than 10 years and I look like I do.

I use a scale for most of my meals and count my calories and maintain close to your size with clear abs for most of the year at 3300 to 3500 with the odd skipload 5000 calorie day. If I cut to training 3 days a week only with no cardio 90kg at 3000 is maintainable and can still incline bench 60kg dumbells without a spot. Barely! No steroids. Sarms yes GW and Cardarine.
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Moral of the story ww2's nutrition information is not applicable to 99% of us

Maybe he's on the opposite end of the spectrum of the Sandton housewife who thinks she's eating 1200 calories but still not losing weight.
 
Meister-Man said:
To answer the original question.
Creatine monohydrate, coz it actually works.
Whey protein (more a food than a supplement) for days I don't eat much meat, so I can still get enough protein.
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Very succinctly covering the only reason for taking supps (for a natty)
 
Didnt ask anyone to copy it haha, just saying thats what Im on. Have tried various diets and this is the first that made me gain quality weight. Do measurements and BF every 2 weeks and it works for me. I do notice that I run at high temperatures and I am on juice as well. small dose , about 1000mg a week of combination. But I do have to goto extremes to get results. always have,

And I do have a very strange body.
 
WorldWarII said:
Didnt ask anyone to copy it haha, just saying thats what Im on. Have tried various diets and this is the first that made me gain quality weight. Do measurements and BF every 2 weeks and it works for me. I do notice that I run at high temperatures and I am on juice as well. small dose , about 1000mg a week of combination. But I do have to goto extremes to get results. always have,

And I do have a very strange body.
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1g a week? You also said GH and insulin?
Interested to know what you run, i assume test and something like tren or deca?
 
So i'm thinking of getting a weighted vest,i don't use a gym i mostly do bodyweighted workouts,and I really wana start cutting bodyfat,any1 use 1 before,what was your outcome.
 
only1cr said:
So i'm thinking of getting a weighted vest,i don't use a gym i mostly do bodyweighted workouts,and I really wana start cutting bodyfat,any1 use 1 before,what was your outcome.
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I've got a 20kg vest gathering dust yes. Realistically it will do very little for fat loss unless you use it while running and actually maintain a pace that makes you suffer. Even then you'll probably barely burn off a small 50g packet of big korn bites.

The additional calories burned during bodyweight exercises like pushups with the vest are not enough to offset a bad diet that caused the weight gain in the first place.

Unfortunately it's cardio, more workouts, and #1 a reduction in calories for any considerable fat loss... The fitness industry is built on lies that there's always an easier way like doing situps for stomach fat loss.
 
Sensorei said:
I've got a 20kg vest gathering dust yes. Realistically it will do very little for fat loss unless you use it while running and actually maintain a pace that makes you suffer. Even then you'll probably barely burn off a small 50g packet of big korn bites.

The additional calories burned during bodyweight exercises like pushups with the vest are not enough to offset a bad diet that caused the weight gain in the first place.

Unfortunately it's cardio, more workouts, and #1 a reduction in calories for any considerable fat loss... The fitness industry is built on lies that there's always an easier way like doing situps for stomach fat loss.
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Exactly the same as my scenario, I also have a 20kg vest that ended up in the guest room cupboard and has been sitting there for the last 3 years.

I've used it to do cardio in the past as well as bodyweight workouts. It did help though, as my diet was on point.

In the end no matter what you do you cant out-train a bad diet.
 
A weighted vest will add intensity to your bodyweight training and help you build additional strength. Not sure that they make any special claims with regards to fat loss.

Try adding a HIIT session once or twice a week. for 30-40 minutes including your warm up and cool down. Get your heart rate up, get out of breath(using your Anaerobic energy system) aim for big compound movements (eg burpees.) Short intense periods of exercise can give you several hours of Excess Post-Exercise Oxygen Consumption (EPOC) which helps burn fat for several hours after your workout.

I also often add in sprints at the end of a strength session which works well. Kettlebell Swings are also one of my go to exercises for fat burning. As also mentioned, you have to have your diet sorted.
 
syntax said:
1g a week? You also said GH and insulin?
Interested to know what you run, i assume test and something like tren or deca?
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i run 10 week cycles and change it up a little bit. so before my current mix I was on Prop and the HD tren combo. half a ml of each two to three times a week.

Now Im on the HD supertest 500 combo (Only combo worth even trying in my opinion) 1ml twice a week.

then GH , use the keiffi 4 units a morning.

insulin i do 6 clicks after gym (if you do this make 100% sure your food is ready , and eat a packet of winegums on way home)
 
WorldWarII said:
i run 10 week cycles and change it up a little bit. so before my current mix I was on Prop and the HD tren combo. half a ml of each two to three times a week.

Now Im on the HD supertest 500 combo (Only combo worth even trying in my opinion) 1ml twice a week.

then GH , use the keiffi 4 units a morning.

insulin i do 6 clicks after gym (if you do this make 100% sure your food is ready , and eat a packet of winegums on way home)
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Ive never been a fan of HD. Their stuff has always felt very inconsistent and on some other forums I see complaints about them fairly frequently. 1G of test a week seems like a lot. What does your bloodwork look like?
Do you suffer from any kind of lethargy / tiredness from the GH?
 
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