What gym supplements are you using ?

WorldWarII said:
im on 8000 calories a day. Its tough but you get your results. Best thing I did was goto a real dietician who takes bloods and works out your diet. I am currently at 96kg and 9% body fat
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8000? If a real dietician told you that then you need a new dietician. You'd be getting fat as fuq at 96kg, even if you're lifting elite lifter numbers and running 5km a day.

Ronnie Coleman and Jay cutler both ate max 6000-7000 calories per day and that's at 130-140kg off season. No bodybuilder is going to eat 8000 calories a day and maintain sub 10% body fat.
 
James 77 said:
Will take a look. I’ve never had any “luck” with regards to local products. Been buying imports for the last 10 years. From the good old days of Gaspari SP 250 and Jack3d original
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You know jack3d was laced with ped's, that's why it was removed right.
 
Sensorei said:
8000? If a real dietician told you that then you need a new dietician. You'd be getting fat as fuq at 96kg, even if you're lifting elite lifter numbers and running 5km a day.

Ronnie Coleman and Jay cutler both ate max 6000-7000 calories per day and that's at 130-140kg off season. No bodybuilder is going to eat 8000 calories a day and maintain sub 10% body fat.
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Was thinking the same, 8000 calories is extremely high. I sit between 3500 and 4000 some days and it is alot. And I do quite a bit of long distance cardio
I cant imagine what it takes to have 8k maintenance calories
 
Sensorei said:
Quite normal, particularly if you are lifting very heavy. Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor. After an intense heavy set blood pressure drops and the due to the caffeine restricted blood flow can make you feel dizzy like you're going to pass out. Heavy compounds movements that recruit the most muscle groups like deadlifts and squats don't go well with stimulants.
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bro-da said:
how heavy do you lift? also do you eat before gym?

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I see @Sensorei basically covered what i was thinking
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Not strongman levels but I’m doing 120kg bench, 180kg deadlift, 140kg squats.
 
To answer the original question.
Creatine monohydrate, coz it actually works.
Whey protein (more a food than a supplement) for days I don't eat much meat, so I can still get enough protein.
 
WorldWarII said:
im on 8000 calories a day. Its tough but you get your results. Best thing I did was goto a real dietician who takes bloods and works out your diet. I am currently at 96kg and 9% body fat
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Im very curious to see your meal plan for a day. How many meals do you eat and have creatine and whey during day.
 
Eric said:
How heavy are you? Not bad numbers at all.
I'm in the older age bracket these days and my goals have changed from the numbers on the plates to the number of reps for bodyweight exercises like dips and pull ups.
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Same same
I used to ego lift way back when. Then I started lifting properly but with the goal of getting much stronger. I packed on plates and it was great but I just dont think my body can keep doing that. I have too many sports injuries.

I do some strength building now but even then I never do a 1RM or push anything less than 4 or 5 reps. I am looking for a more aesthetic look and keeping myself in a bit of a higher rep range mostly. Slow, controlled, much lower weight with concentration on muscle connection.
It has been injury free so far and pretty damn great.
 
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I wonder honestly how many on here have actually used or are currently on some kind of PED (SARM or AAS)
I never touched anything until relatively recently and now that I have the amount of people I know of that have or are on is significantly higher than I thought it would be.
Also the amount of those people who look dead average are pretty damn high as well.
 
Eric said:
How heavy are you? Not bad numbers at all.
I'm in the older age bracket these days and my goals have changed from the numbers on the plates to the number of reps for bodyweight exercises like dips and pull ups.
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I currently weigh 95 with 10.2% body fat. Reps are very important, I've seen some guys in the gym who comes in and do a couple of sets of 1 rep and then leave.
 
syntax said:
I wonder honestly how many on here have actually used or are currently on some kind of PED (SARM or AAS)
I never touched anything until relatively recently and now that I have the amount of people I know of that have or are on is significantly higher than I thought it would be.
Also the amount of those people who look dead average are pretty damn high as well.
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There's a lot. I know for a fact that the guys who aren't using PED in the gym here, I can count on my one hand. I've thought about it for a while but for me personally, the cons far outweigh the pros.
 
Sensorei said:
8000? If a real dietician told you that then you need a new dietician. You'd be getting fat as fuq at 96kg, even if you're lifting elite lifter numbers and running 5km a day.

Ronnie Coleman and Jay cutler both ate max 6000-7000 calories per day and that's at 130-140kg off season. No bodybuilder is going to eat 8000 calories a day and maintain sub 10% body fat.
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Im still lean haha. Everything I do, I need twice the dose . This is working so far.
 
okay , as per the diet, I dont want to give away my dieticians property, if that makes sense. but roughly as follows :

wake , glass of lemon water, 2 tbl spoons apl cider vinegar
2 tbl spoon sauerkraut
2 pieces of toast
2 tbl spoon thick low fat peanut butter

180g oats measured raw. cut up green apple and put in oats, 1 tbl spoon sugar
8 egg whites , 4 whole eggs (any way you want them)

4 pieces of toast
1 primo weigh shake
50g biltong
20g 30% dark chocolate

gym

400g cooked basmati 350g lean steak or chicken 200g cooked veg

200g chicken livers
200g jasmin rice

5 biscuits
1 primo weigh
50g biltong
250g cottage cheese

500g cooked basmati
500g lean meat (chicken or mince or whatever)
200g veggies
I add a salad , potatoe or coleslaw

2 muffins
250g cottage cheese
chopped pineapple
i add ice cream or cheese cake or a sweet of some sort.

I may have missed a few, wrote this out of my head,

for disclosure. I am on GH and insulin.
 
WorldWarII said:
okay , as per the diet, I dont want to give away my dieticians property, if that makes sense. but roughly as follows :

wake , glass of lemon water, 2 tbl spoons apl cider vinegar
2 tbl spoon sauerkraut
2 pieces of toast
2 tbl spoon thick low fat peanut butter

180g oats measured raw. cut up green apple and put in oats, 1 tbl spoon sugar
8 egg whites , 4 whole eggs (any way you want them)

4 pieces of toast
1 primo weigh shake
50g biltong
20g 30% dark chocolate

gym

400g cooked basmati 350g lean steak or chicken 200g cooked veg

200g chicken livers
200g jasmin rice

5 biscuits
1 primo weigh
50g biltong
250g cottage cheese

500g cooked basmati
500g lean meat (chicken or mince or whatever)
200g veggies
I add a salad , potatoe or coleslaw

2 muffins
250g cottage cheese
chopped pineapple
i add ice cream or cheese cake or a sweet of some sort.

I may have missed a few, wrote this out of my head,

for disclosure. I am on GH and insulin.
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I did a quick guestimate (could be totally wrong) but this still doesnt seem close to 8000 calories. I would guess around the 5k mark. This is also eating every 2 hours for 12 hours, you would need to add another 2 large meals or so I believe and then fit in cardio and your gym session.
How do you even fit in work with this and how are you able to exercise with being this full?
How much time do you spend on the toilet? I eat a ton and when I upped my calories I literally lost about an hour a day just because of how much I have to push out
 
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