What is wrong with men these days?

"Off course it is, he'd probably ask you to deposit money into his bank account first"

And you know what? After a few pics of this beautiful girl (fakes obviously but how does the guy know that?) putting things in her numfi, the poor sodding bloke on the other side will put some money in the account. Because, remember, remember, men have both penis and brain but only enough blood to run one at a time.
 
Now from our point of view:

Women are completely insecure about our so-called sexiness and femininity. We are scared ****less when a man approaches us as we don't want to stuff up and say the wrong thing or come across like an idiot or just not make the right move. We don't know how to show our interest, so we giggle and we play with our hair and we try to think of witty comebacks that might impress the gorgeous male standing before us.

Then when he leaves? We phone our friends and obsess over whether or not he is going to call or if he even likes us enough to call us.

For some reason a vast majority of the men on here think we are intimidating and full of crap. This is not the case. We are just as nervous and scared as some of you guys have mentioned you are. Give us a break too will you. We aren't all money grabbing whores! Sheesh.

On the bold part:

Kaching, you won. It's in the bag as long as you're not a biatch. Really, our expactations are a bit lower initially. As long as you are honest, sincere & yourself it's great. Sure you might not be the guys type but do you really wan't to sit and "think" of things to say. If he does not fancy you so what, there will be more men and hopefully the one that likes you for just you comes along sooner than later.

Bottom line is it seems we are all insecure to some degree and fear rejection more than anthing else. We wear masks in order to protect ourselves.

Also about time we stop reading/watching Cosmo, FHM, Oprha, Dr Phil etc. as they are trying very hard to sell us images we can do without.
 
After reading this thread I'm forced to surmise that the problem with men these days is that they seem to have turned into 12 year old girls who whine about their feelings and cry themselves to sleep every time a pretty girl says "No." to them.

Maybe it is all the growth hormones they feed milk cows or something.
 
Personally I think men weigh up the options... do we need all the grief that some women seem to create in our lives, or just park off, have a beer or 2 and then go home? Women have been brainwashed by those trashy magazines that feed them so much drivel about relationships that their own expectations have also become skewed.
Sorry to say the problem wont get better, its just getting worse all the time.
 
Personally I think men weigh up the options... do we need all the grief that some women seem to create in our lives, or just park off, have a beer or 2 and then go home? Women have been brainwashed by those trashy magazines that feed them so much drivel about relationships that their own expectations have also become skewed.
Sorry to say the problem wont get better, its just getting worse all the time.

I choose to enjoy als the good things women have brought into my life and order a beer or two on the side as well.
 
Alright so i'm rather curious as to why men are no longer the hunters? Why am i asking this you wonder?

Example to follow:

Single friends and myself went out on a ladies night tonight and i can now see why single women complain about being single. We started out at Cofi (not a single man in sight, we tried QBa and the place was dead. We eventually landed up @ FTV. Okay great lots of single men! Yet not a single man approached my single friends and struck up a conversation. Do men just no longer do this or what?

I remember when i was single, men were the first ones to initiate a conversation. Nowadays the latter seems true. It seems women have to throw themselves at men if they want attention. What has happened to the world where the roles have so dramatically reversed?



I see you in Sandton. Maybe thats why.

The men here in Cape Town . . . aaaaaahhh . . . move to Cape Town man! You could learn a few things.
 
Well for men in cape town it is easy because 50% of the men in the cape like other men, meaning your male to female ratio is off the chart :p, they take any straight man they can find :p. Also picking a life long partner in a club is more than likely not going to happen. So stop looking for a man to have babies with and start looking for a man who wants to have some fun.

Go to church if you want a baby machine that wants a life long partner.
 
The men here in Cape Town . . . aaaaaahhh . . . move to Cape Town man! You could learn a few things.

I think she knows enough about beauty products and what the latest fashion is - she's looking for a Man.
 
Actually one of my friends did try to strike up a conversation with a guy by asking him what he was drinking and he answered and then turned around and carried on with his conversation.

Just like you don't owe a guy anything, keep in mind that guys don't owe you anything either. Girls get highly offended when a guy turns them down, why? Because they expect every guy to be keen on a quicky. So you get irritated with the very quality that you are looking for in a nice guy.

Why?

You are single are you not? So if you saw a lady who you found attractive at a bar you would simply just not approach her?

She has enough guys approaching her. Pass.

Also, she needs more than just a pretty face.

It was bound to happen eventually. IMO women have themselves to blame for the current lack of interest - years of rejecting genuinely nice guys has come back to bite. I guess that guys got sick of being rejected and figure they'd just be wasting their time by approaching on a night out, so they now take it for what it is - a night out with their buddies.

Let's assume that that's not the case - how are they supposed to smell if a girl is single or taken if it's a girls night out?

Agreed. With my non-jock posture, I have 2 options:

1) Go out and try to score ... fail miserably ... not have a good time.

2) Go out and not bother ... still won't score , but at least have a good time.

Serqet knows I've always been to modest & shy to approach girls with confidence, but based on the amount of times I have been shot down, I've grown a don't-care attitude.

Quite a few of my female friends treat me like I'm their gay-best-friend...and this is my fault.
 
Your friends are looking for daddy and marriage material in places like Billys, Mollys and FTV? Good luck with that.
 
Dude i have also always been modest and shy, guys like us won't pick up chicks/females(for you blondie) in a club.

There are tons of other ways to find a girl but shy and modest guys won't find them a club.
 
Your friends are looking for daddy and marriage material in places like Billys, Mollys and FTV? Good luck with that.

No that is just where we happened to go and we just noted the men that were at the venue weren't quite up to scratch.
 
Dude i have also always been modest and shy, guys like us won't pick up chicks/females(for you blondie) in a club.

There are tons of other ways to find a girl but shy and modest guys won't find them a club.

Yep. I've heard/read/seen/watched it all ... and unfortunately the only times random girls showed interest was when I acted like a d00s. I don't like being one ... and I won't sell out just to hit the poen.

Still need to find a common interest that a girl shares ... although now that you mention finding a better place, there IS this one girl who normally surfs with us. hmmmz...
 
huh

Just like you don't owe a guy anything, keep in mind that guys don't owe you anything either. Girls get highly offended when a guy turns them down, why? Because they expect every guy to be keen on a quicky. So you get irritated with the very quality that you are looking for in a nice guy.

Exactly how you get irritated/sad when you get rejected. It's normal!



She has enough guys approaching her. Pass.

Also, she needs more than just a pretty face.

Secondly how are you suppose to know if she is more than a pretty face if you wont even speak to her?
Hmmm!
 
Yep. I've heard/read/seen/watched it all ... and unfortunately the only times random girls showed interest was when I acted like a d00s. I don't like being one ... and I won't sell out just to hit the poen.

Still need to find a common interest that a girl shares ... although now that you mention finding a better place, there IS this one girl who normally surfs with us. hmmmz...

Well dude firstly, when you go out go out and have fun, don't go out looking to get laid, if your shy that is not going to happen and besides with AIDS and all that the days of just nailing random chicks are long gone because now even men are a bit wary of who they screw.

Hmmm a chick that surfs with you? WTf are you waiting for, get in there and hit it hard :p, no just playing hehe, ask her out or something.
 

Believe it or not, in the last 2 years I've begun speaking to tons of girls in the places I usually lurk. It would be coincidental / per group / whatnot ... I've never just approached a random pretty girl out of the blue.

Oh wait, there was this one time. Then I got shot down.

The worst was when some girl came up to me and tried to put her hand on my crotch. The message came through LOUD and CLEAR. But she was miffed at me for turning her down - again assuming every guy would "gooi it, bokkie!".

oh ... and one of the girls I lurk with told me she's going to marry me some day. Not to mention calling me her "violent boyfriend" when some drunk jock tried to hit on her. If I have to hear the "you're such a nice guy, any girl would be lucky to marry you." speech from a girl, I'm going to go down on one knee in front of her and headbutt her in the ovaries.
 
Well dude firstly, when you go out go out and have fun, don't go out looking to get laid, if your shy that is not going to happen and besides with AIDS and all that the days of just nailing random chicks are long gone because now even men are a bit wary of who they screw.
Nah dude, I'm not going to be bending any girl like a pellet gun until I can afford the consequences.

Hmmm a chick that surfs with you? WTf are you waiting for, get in there and hit it hard :p, no just playing hehe, ask her out or something.

*LOL* ... or something.
 
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