Which handgun do you recommend for EDC?

Foxhound5366 said:
Which range do you go to, bwana?
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At the moment I don't. The range I used to frequent was a victim of lockdown.

I'm going to George next month and there is a nice looking outdoor range along the airport road that I've been wanting to try for a while.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
*shrugs* I've watched enough YouTube videos to know this is pretty much the common range experience ... maybe they pay more attention to people who clearly don't know what they're doing, and I got off lightly because I could hold a gun securely and not point it at my feet. Which range do you go to, bwana?

Firing a gun is a scary enough experience even when you're competent that I'm sure nobody is doing this carelessly. Also it's prohibitively expensive as mentioned, so everyone actually there seemed intent on just getting better.
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Yea, I had a far better experience at the range I went to.

They went over basic safety, showed us how to handle the guns, proper grip, proper stance etc.

Then again, that's Midrand for you.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Yea, I had a far better experience at the range I went to.

They went over basic safety, showed us how to handle the guns, proper grip, proper stance etc.

Then again, that's Midrand for you.
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Well that's cool, but I didn't need any of that. I just wanted what I got: guns, bullets, time and things to shoot at. It's a good combo.

I would like to try out your range anyway, just for giggles. Also they seemed to be a Sig stockist, and Waterfall Arms didn't have any Sig demos (only one retail model - the P320).
 
I've honestly never been to a range that impressed me with their safety measures when you simply go there to shoot. Usually its a case of being paranoid about who else are using the range, and double checking that they behave themselves. We've left ranges before because of careless neighbours.

On the flip side: I have a few friends who does sport shooting and they drilled basic range safety into me. Their idea of safety is much more strict than the average range owner/officer's seem to be.
 
Tacet said:
I've honestly never been to a range that impressed me with their safety measures when you simply go there to shoot. Usually its a case of being paranoid about who else are using the range, and double checking that they behave themselves. We've left ranges before because of careless neighbours.

On the flip side: I have a few friends who does sport shooting and they drilled basic range safety into me. Their idea of safety is much more strict than the average range owner/officer's seem to be.
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Sounds right. I was super safe ... after every mag emptied I'd pop it out, do a visual inspection, then release the slide and rack it back a few times, then lock it back for a final inspection before placing it on the bench facing away from me and re-loading the magazine. I got through 200 rounds without shooting myself in the foot, so it worked lol.

I'm happy my grip is solid, but I think my shakiness comes from my arm muscles. I'm wondering whether building muscle strength in my arms will improve stability. Has that worked for anyone?
 
Foxhound5366 said:
So I just had my very first unsupervised gun range experience. With 200 rounds. And 3 pistols: Glock 19, CZ P10-C and Taurus G2.

Thanks for the tip on this thread about Waterfall Arms in Midrand, they are amazing (shout out to Marco - friendliest salesman ever).

Here's the range setup:
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I will say this ... it's not a cheap hobby when you're renting the guns AND the range AND buying ammo, but this was training for me. And there are special deals. And even annual memberships.

Basic opinion on the guns:
Taurus G2: absolutely terrible. Shot one mag and stopped, because you have to pull the trigger almost all the way to the back before you hit the wall. Gun feels decent in the hand, so maybe the trigger was faulty but I wasn't gonna bother finding out.

Glock 19 Gen 5: Interestingly not the gun I shot with the most accuracy. It feels the best in the hand though, and everything about it just feels better put together. A smoother mag release, a chunkier and easier to load mag ... but those stock sights are terrible and for me as a novice I just did better on the next gun.

CZ P10-C: Feels decent in the hand, but not as well-built as the Glock. Magazine is all just sharp edges and uncomfortable to load by hand as many times as I was doing. That said, the 3-dot sight worked the best for me. I got genuine bulls eyes with it and overall far more bullets in the orange circle with it, than the others.

So which would I buy? A bit early to tell, but I'm currently leaning towards a Glock (I want some more back-to-back experiences with the 19 and 43X and just keep working on my aim with it (and get some 3-dot TruGlo night sights for it). I know Glock takes so much flack, but like everyone always concludes it's the best all-round experience even if it's not the best at any one thing (apart from mag quality lol).
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How much RRR was it to rent the guns and range. Do they have some pcc's too?
 
gertvanjoe said:
How much RRR was it to rent the guns and range. Do they have some pcc's too?
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Ok I got some specials (like I'm sure you will too if you go and show serious interest) so I don't feel it's fair to them to share what those were, but I will share that the bullets are R5 each and the gun rental fee is R200 each.

What's a PCC? X.x
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Ok I got some specials (like I'm sure you will too if you go and show serious interest) so I don't feel it's fair to them to share what those were, but I will share that the bullets are R5 each and the gun rental fee is R200 each.
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R200 is good. They have any carbines to rent?
 
gertvanjoe said:
R200 is good. They have any carbines to rent?
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They sell everything you can imagine, including having racks of carbines ... so I'm sure they'd have demos for those too probably. I didn't go down that road because I didn't get the proficiency, can't license it for now, and wouldn't even know how to hold it properly lolol.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Ok I got some specials (like I'm sure you will too if you go and show serious interest) so I don't feel it's fair to them to share what those were, but I will share that the bullets are R5 each and the gun rental fee is R200 each.

What's a PCC? X.x
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If or when you eventually go down the rabbit hole, get yourself some reloading kit. A Lee single stage press is what has served me well all the years... Works out way cheaper than buying ammo but also pick up any doppies you can,, They are the most expensive part of the cartridge.
 
Smugs said:
If or when you eventually go down the rabbit hole, get yourself some reloading kit. A Lee single stage press is what has served me well all the years... Works out way cheaper than buying ammo but also pick up any doppies you can,, They are the most expensive part of the cartridge.
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*Grins* You should scavenge at the range. They just have a dustbin where everyone throws their cases away.
 
Smugs said:
If or when you eventually go down the rabbit hole, get yourself some reloading kit. A Lee single stage press is what has served me well all the years... Works out way cheaper than buying ammo but also pick up any doppies you can,, They are the most expensive part of the cartridge.
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True on the doppies but at least you can use them for relatively long, unless you go rifle, propellant by tbe teaspoon gets expensive fast these days nevermind the bullets. Would love an AR platform, but fsk buying that **** in 223. I'm either going to go pff pff instead of POW (22lr) or get a a pcc
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Ok I got some specials (like I'm sure you will too if you go and show serious interest) so I don't feel it's fair to them to share what those were, but I will share that the bullets are R5 each and the gun rental fee is R200 each.

What's a PCC? X.x
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Pcc, pistol calibre carbine.
 
gertvanjoe said:
Pcc, pistol calibre carbine.
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Good, Pretoria Country Club didn't sound right :D Yours makes more sense.

Remember this thread boys ... it's about EDC. Unless you're a really big boy, I don't think you'll be tucking your PCC between your moobs for concealed carry. The best gun is the one you have when you need it, I realised.
 
gertvanjoe said:
Range officer will likely have dips on that bin.
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Yep, always ask before you pick up someone else's doppies. There's been ranges where they even tried to prevent you to pick up your own - the gunsite peoples were pretty unhappy with that.
 
bwana said:
Unsupervised? I'm surprised they're allowed to do that.
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That's why I stay away from places like that, Guthries in Vorna Valley same same, far too many wannabees waving firearms around. I rather travel to Centurion
 
RonSwanson said:
That's why I stay away from places like that, Guthries in Vorna Valley same same, far too many wannabees waving firearms around. I rather travel to Centurion
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I use exclusive-use ranges only. The amount of people who come into laned ranges and act like idiots is really worrying.
 
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