Which HDMI cable?

Frikkenator said:
This is not really true, depending on your setup the more expensive cables do make a difference. You'll only start noticing it once your setup starts costing R60k+ though, and even more so when you go over the R150k line.

For normal average Joe use I agree, anything will do, but there is a reason you get HDMI cables in excess of R1000 a pop.
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No way.
There is zero chance you can tell the difference between two working cables of the same standard.

Edit: By standard, I mean version (1.2, 1.3, 1.4 etc)
 
Frikkenator said:
This is not really true, depending on your setup the more expensive cables do make a difference. You'll only start noticing it once your setup starts costing R60k+ though, and even more so when you go over the R150k line.

For normal average Joe use I agree, anything will do, but there is a reason you get HDMI cables in excess of R1000 a pop.
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Not true.
It would be true if the cable was carrying an analogue signal.
 
ngwe23 said:
Not true.
It would be true if the cable was carrying an analogue signal.
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Because its digital does not mean its a silver bullet. Errors can and do occur, and they can and do make a difference. The trick is to keep them as low as possible, and to do that, you have to construct a proper cable cancelling out noise at all levels from the connectors through to the conductors.

http://www.hifipage.com/do-quality-hdmi-cables-make-a-difference-241/

Just as the direction of speaker/audio (analogue) cable does make a difference, the quality of your HDMI cable does make a difference.
 
Frikkenator said:
This is not really true, depending on your setup the more expensive cables do make a difference. You'll only start noticing it once your setup starts costing R60k+ though, and even more so when you go over the R150k line.

For normal average Joe use I agree, anything will do, but there is a reason you get HDMI cables in excess of R1000 a pop.
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many articles written about this

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/home...ables-make-no-difference-the-absolute-proof/3

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20056502-1/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/


many more if you Google, basically the only people that insist the expensive cables are worth the extra is the ones selling it.

but in reference I'm referring to 2 cables the same version
so comparing a cheap 1.4 to an expensive 1.4

now some one mentioned that on a 1.3 they had problems with 3d but not on 1.4 that's because 1.3 does not support 3d
 
Go to hdcabling.co.za and buy the length you need. cheaper than the 1.3 at game even with delivery and will be 1.4 with gold plated terminals and the correct size of cable. The "90" adaptors are useful as well.
 
Frikkenator said:
Because its digital does not mean its a silver bullet. Errors can and do occur, and they can and do make a difference. The trick is to keep them as low as possible, and to do that, you have to construct a proper cable cancelling out noise at all levels from the connectors through to the conductors.

http://www.hifipage.com/do-quality-hdmi-cables-make-a-difference-241/

Just as the direction of speaker/audio (analogue) cable does make a difference, the quality of your HDMI cable does make a difference.
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Complete and utter nonsense .. it is digital and there is also error correction on all packets. Sure you'll find some bs articles on the web stating otherwise ... they're written by high-end cable companies. If the cable is built according to the standards it will work exactly as well as a R10K cable. .. and incidentally the direction on analogue cables also makes no perceivable difference ... no audiophile has ever passed a high-end cable vs. nice thick flex speakerwire double blind test.

HDMI ver 1.4 brought us 3D and a few other features, but bitrates did not change from 1.3, so 3D requires 1.4a components, but you may use 1.3 cables with it. An HDMI 1.3 cable will do anything that an HDMI 1.4a cable can do, except for the ethernet channel.
 
TYR said:
HDMI ver 1.4 brought us 3D and a few other features, but bitrates did not change from 1.3, so 3D requires 1.4a components, but you may use 1.3 cables with it. An HDMI 1.3 cable will do anything that an HDMI 1.4a cable can do, except for the ethernet channel.
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Yep, anyone with a PS3 can attest to that even though it only has a physical 1.3 port. It was however designed to be firmware programmable so over time Sony added some 1.4 protocol functionality e.g. like 1080p 3D. In fact Sony has promised 4K picture viewing in a future upgrade.
 
I don't see what the big deal is, when I went to get a cable there was something like a R50 difference between 1.3 and 1.4. So I'd rather just pay R50 extra and no worries afterwards.
 
TYR said:
Complete and utter nonsense .. it is digital and there is also error correction on all packets. Sure you'll find some bs articles on the web stating otherwise ... they're written by high-end cable companies. If the cable is built according to the standards it will work exactly as well as a R10K cable. .. and incidentally the direction on analogue cables also makes no perceivable difference ... no audiophile has ever passed a high-end cable vs. nice thick flex speakerwire double blind test.
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So you've decided not to read the article then?

The error correction is where the problem lies. HDMI is one-directional, with loops for certain functions, but not error correction. That means that if an error occurs it cannot request the packet again, it just has to deal with it. So it tries to reconstruct the packet, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'm not saying this is a regular occurrence, but it being digital does not mean there can't be errors, and it most certainly does not mean that the errors won't affect the AV.

Saying otherwise is saying that line quality cannot possible affect your ADSL speed, because ADSL is digital. I think we all know that is not the case.
 
Frikkenator said:
So you've decided not to read the article then?

The error correction is where the problem lies. HDMI is one-directional, with loops for certain functions, but not error correction. That means that if an error occurs it cannot request the packet again, it just has to deal with it. So it tries to reconstruct the packet, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'm not saying this is a regular occurrence, but it being digital does not mean there can't be errors, and it most certainly does not mean that the errors won't affect the AV.

Saying otherwise is saying that line quality cannot possible affect your ADSL speed, because ADSL is digital. I think we all know that is not the case.
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The only way that errors will be introduced is if you have either a seriously long cable, or your cable is broken somewhere and some strands are not connecting from HDMI plug to HDMI plug.
If you are saying that a more expensive cable is better constructed, and thus wont break as easily then I might agree with you. It will not transmit a digital signal better than an inexpensive cable.


EDIT: By seriously long, I mean 10m or more. Then the digital signal may attenuate to a point where irrecoverable packet loss occurs. Maybe. I highly doubt that the price of your cable will change this effect.
 
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