White students 'overlooked'

Should black kids from wealthier families be considered disadvantaged?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 4.9%

  • No

    Votes: 96 93.2%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Total voters
    103
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Nick333 said:
Yes it's funny that the same people who jump up and down about blacks playing the race card don't seem to notice when they do the same thing.

There are just not enough facts to form any sort of judgement in this case yet. And judging from the source the probably never will be.
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I tend to agree with you. My wife has just graduated from UP. From my very recent visits to the campus, I would think more than half of the student body at UP is white. There's Afrikaans as well as English lectures. This claim seems bizaire given the above facts about Tuks. I doubt that all the white students enrolled at Tuks had more than 8 matic distinctions!!! If not it would mean that some white students were admitted in place of some outstanding white students with 8 distinctions! That doesn't tie up very well with AA as some forumites are claiming!
If there were racial quotas in place surely those students are first in line to fulfill the "white" quota.
 
8A's to study at Tuks, dream on. Certain courses are harder to get in but you don't need that kind of marks. I have heard (from my cousin who spoke to one of the profs at stellenbosch) though that with medicine a list of applicatants who pass the minimum standard is made and then some are randomly selected from that list to be accepted for the course.

It is rather stupid to just apply at one university knowing that you might not be accepted even if your marks are high enough.
 
"Rapport reported last Sunday that Stefan Storm of Benoni and J J Baird of Germiston were refused registration at the University of Pretoria despite the fact that both gained eight distinctions in matric."
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It's Rapport ..... :rolleyes:
 
FacELesS. said:
8A's to study at Tuks, dream on. Certain courses are harder to get in but you don't need that kind of marks. I have heard (from my cousin who spoke to one of the profs at stellenbosch) though that with medicine a list of applicatants who pass the minimum standard is made and then some are randomly selected from that list to be accepted for the course.

It is rather stupid to just apply at one university knowing that you might not be accepted even if your marks are high enough.
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Perhaps those are Afrikaans students and have limited choices when it comes to medium of instruction. It's either Tuks or Stellenbosch! In that case, it's got little to do with racism or AA. If the Afriakaans classes are full one can always join the english universities. Most black students have to adapt to English medium when they enroll at university.
 
My cousin had 6 distinctions but was also refused admission to med school, so he did a Bsc bio "something" and after 1 year was accepted on merit.
 
JK8 said:
My cousin had 6 distinctions but was also refused admission to med school, so he did a Bsc bio "something" and after 1 year was accepted on merit.
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What axactly are the requirements for med's school...6 distinctions seems more than enough to me. Especially since most matriculants do just 6 subjects. What more can one do?
 
The trick to the "disadvantaged" thing is to be "previously disadvantaged" as opposed to "currently advantaged" or "formerly advantaged". I am afraid that people in this country will be using the PD label to their advantage for the next gazillion years.
 
OhGats said:
The trick to the "disadvantaged" thing is to be "previously disadvantaged" as opposed to "currently advantaged" or "formerly advantaged". I am afraid that people in this country will be using the PD label to their advantage for the next gazillion years.
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Taking advantage of the times then - no different than what happened 25 years ago, eh?
 
Nod said:
Really? Damn, must have missed that. I must have been dumb to work for where I got.
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Oh please let's not go down this road - white people were advantaged, and took advantage of the fact... Black folks are now today taking advantage of the new system in place. It, therefore, stands to reason that if the system allows, those capable of doing so will take advantage of said system.
 
jontyB said:
Oh please let's not go down this road - white people were advantaged, and took advantage of the fact... Black folks are now today taking advantage of the new system in place. It, therefore, stands to reason that if the system allows, those capable of doing so will take advantage of said system.
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If by "advantaged" you mean that I actually went to school, done my work, and didn't attempt to burn it down, then yes. Working for what you have and receiving something on a platter, is two different things.
 
Nod said:
If by "advantaged" you mean that I actually went to school, done my work, and didn't attempt to burn it down, then yes. Working for what you have and receiving something on a platter, is two different things.
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what he means is you were competing with a minority of people and not a majority. as a white person it was easy getting a job.

now someone looking for a new job has to compete against a large demographic of applicants and are further hampered or helped by our governments racist policies.
 
Nod said:
If by "advantaged" you mean that I actually went to school, done my work, and didn't attempt to burn it down, then yes. Working for what you have and receiving something on a platter, is two different things.
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You are aware that there was a thing known as bantu education back in the day and that the government insisted that it be taught in afrikaans?
 
halicon said:
what he means is you were competing with a minority of people and not a majority. as a white person it was easy getting a job.
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Actually it wasn't easy to get a job. I started job hunting in '96/'97, smack at the start of AA. It was not nice to see advertisements for student work, only to be told that you're not "qualified". And I needed the practical to complete my diploma. Thats why I'm not even working close to what I have studied, and can't do my B-Tech, as I have to experience in my field of study. So don't tell me, I had it easy.
 
Nod said:
If by "advantaged" you mean that I actually went to school, done my work, and didn't attempt to burn it down, then yes. Working for what you have and receiving something on a platter, is two different things.
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*sigh* you do want to walk this road then don't you?

1. You went to school and received (almost free) a good education? How many other white kids were in your class? How many black kids were in your class?
2. Did your parents have a good job? Did they struggle finding a job because of their skin colour?
3. Did you have an issue getting into University or college? Even if your marks weren't top notch?
4. Were you able to go to any medical facility and receive top class service?
5. Were you allowed to go into any rest room?
6. Were you allowed to go to any beach that you decided to visit?
7. Were you subjected to curfews (not those imposed by your parents - those imposed by the Nats)

There's many more, and I am sure many can contribute to this... so get off your high horse mate. You were advantaged, deny it all you want.
 
Nick333 said:
You are aware that there was a thing known as bantu education back in the day and that the government insisted that it be taught in afrikaans?
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You're also aware that bantu education basically stopped after '76?
And today? They have to take lessons in English. Big improvement.
 
Nod said:
Actually it wasn't easy to get a job. I started job hunting in '96/'97, smack at the start of AA. It was not nice to see advertisements for student work, only to be told that you're not "qualified". And I needed the practical to complete my diploma. Thats why I'm not even working close to what I have studied, and can't do my B-Tech, as I have to experience in my field of study. So don't tell me, I had it easy.
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Well, then you were not in the job market during Apartheid then were you?
 
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