Why do you pirate online?

OGroteKoning said:
Agreed - that is what I tried to say in the third sentence. But I believe that it won't stop altogether. Except perhaps if they clamp down hard on those distributing as well as downloading.

EXAMPLE: Look what happened on the in the PS3 hacking scene. $ony got the whole world including the FBI involved to help them stop hacking. They started targeting individuals in court cases and it turned out that it "stopped". There are no new releases of jailbreaking devices and since FW 3.55, the scene has had no new software developments to hack the PS3.

And they have started with file servers, taking them down to prevent people downloading pirated items. We'll see hoe this saga turns out.
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What you forget is the events that transpired after that... with the entire Sony online network being down for 2 months and millions of customer credit card details being exposed.

Sony lost that battle big time, I think its more of a truce that was reached.

TBH I think that what won over in the end was that people realised it was the online gameplay they wanted more than being able to play backups.
So the battle against PS3 piracy was won by introducing features in stead of locking down.
 
froot said:
I think for the most part it comes down to this: People can't always afford to financially justify buying all of it.

Some hypothetical examples:

Hypothetically speaking, say I were to be an avid gamer (single player), aged 15-17... say 10 games come out each year, at an average price of R350 a game.... that would be R3500 a year spent on games that one could possibly play for a week each. A lot of people can't justify spending that sort of money.

Taking series into example: The majority of us have DSTV. Prison Break (for example), airs once a week, at a bad time for us.
What do we do? We download the Prison Break series. Technically speaking we already pay to watch it, as it airs on DSTV. The time that it airs is difficult for us to stick to, so we watch the downloaded shows.

Music: I suppose that this once again comes down to a financial justification. The average album has 10 tracks, costs R160. That's R16 per track, half of which we might not like. There might be 10 albums released a year that you would like one or more songs from. That would be R1600 per year that you'd end up spending.

Movies.... probably the same justification, although I'm less inclined to agree.
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+1

You find some games that cost about R300-R500 and then total playing time is under 10 hours (One of the Tomb Raiders - a game that is supposed to keep you busy for very long due to the puzzles - I finished in 7-8 hours). Same with music, especially international artists. So often you find a (international) CD for R250+, but only 2 songs are really good. Or they charge R150 for a CD 'single'/SP with only 6 tracks.

I think with music it is more a case of the record labels that want to make big bucks. The artists get their millions from concerts and promo deals.
 
Why do you pirate
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I dont. I pay Telkom and my ISP money to transfer bits. They can thus pay for the content flowing in those bits.


Same as water and electricity.

Imagine the uproar if "You where pirating Electricity" or "Pirating water"... you cant... why? bacue you pay the provider and not the factory / pumphouse producing it.
 
I have a legal copy of Office 2010
I had it installed on a computer that is old, which I have replaced. Before disposing of the old computer I reformatted the hard drive, thereby uninstalling Office 2010.
I cannot load my legal copy onto the new computer because Microsoft says I have exceeded the permissible number of installations. They want me to buy a new copy! This is crazy because I own a copy and it is not installed on any computer.
So what should I do? Buy a new copy or find a pirate copy. I think the latter!
 
For me , TV shows do get downloaded because I cannot adhere to DSTV`s sometimes random broadcast times.
Live sport also takes preference so to avoid hostility TV shows gets downloaded for SO.
I already pay for the TV shows via DSTV so guilt there at all.

Games ...
Back in the old days , almost every game had a demo.
You could evaluate the product before forking out money for it.
(eg. Does the game run on my system , does the story and gameplay seem worth the money etc.)
I do copy/download/pirate games to try them out. If the game is good enough , I will purchase it .
 
TimTDP said:
I have a legal copy of Office 2010
I had it installed on a computer that is old, which I have replaced. Before disposing of the old computer I reformatted the hard drive, thereby uninstalling Office 2010.
I cannot load my legal copy onto the new computer because Microsoft says I have exceeded the permissible number of installations. They want me to buy a new copy! This is crazy because I own a copy and it is not installed on any computer.
So what should I do? Buy a new copy or find a pirate copy. I think the latter!
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Same thing with me, the latter makes perfect sense
 
This Stafford Masie PR blitz is getting a little tiresome now.
 
pirating have been around since the 1800 in all kind of forms will always be around.
 
stricken said:
I dont. I pay Telkom and my ISP money to transfer bits. They can thus pay for the content flowing in those bits.


Same as water and electricity.

Imagine the uproar if "You where pirating Electricity" or "Pirating water"... you cant... why? bacue you pay the provider and not the factory / pumphouse producing it.
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Logic is flawed, a better analogy is using that water that you are supplied to cook crystal meth.
 
Cause I do not like the regional options provided to me by the supplier.

Why wait for 2 weeks, months or years to watch something I can watch today, whats thye point of watching something with references to something that happened 2 years ago?

Kill regions for all content and I will buy it when it comes out new (instead of when it comes out old in my part of the world)
 
Nerfherder said:
What you forget is the events that transpired after that... with the entire Sony online network being down for 2 months and millions of customer credit card details being exposed.

Sony lost that battle big time, I think its more of a truce that was reached.

TBH I think that what won over in the end was that people realised it was the online gameplay they wanted more than being able to play backups.
So the battle against PS3 piracy was won by introducing features in stead of locking down.
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I remember the retaliation from anonymous very well! It was completely wrong to expose the public, although $ony benefited by realising their security was not as good as they thought - so they increased security and subsequently the the public benefited too.

I won't say $ony lost. They still sell bucket loads of their consoles (fixed or hand held). But this is probably to do with people not really knowing what happened.

And big yes - online gameplay did turn the hacking scene around too - hence I would argue another win for $ony. I also hacked my console for convenience of playing games from the hard drive. And when GT5 came out, I just had to upgrade.

Getting back to piracy - I never pirated any games. I respected the developers enough not to steal their hard earned cash
 
Give me Netflix, Hulu, and Zune Music Pass and I will be a happy chappy.
 
stricken said:
Imagine the uproar if "You where pirating Electricity" or "Pirating water"... you cant... why? bacue you pay the provider and not the factory / pumphouse producing it.
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And who pays them? You pay the pumphouse indirectly. It is included in your bill but not shown seperately!
 
It's a rebelion against corporations dictating the value and method of use for products or services.
 
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