Why ever did i chose winblows 10

RedViking said:
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So it wasn't Windows after all?
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You missed the part where i said i am going to TEST the cable first
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Quote Originally Posted by FlyUAv View Post
How on earth do they get away with coding such useless dumb
software to actually SELL to the masses.
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When i finally got the dumb homegroup option to work, only to find that it goes into a never ending connection spree once entering the stupid password, Never actually connecting the pc's, you have no idea ho much time i wasted on this stupid piece of useless code they dare to call an operating system
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doesn't mean it definately is the cable.
 
FlyUAv said:
doesn't mean it definately is the cable.
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I don't know if you are trolling now or what.

I think you should reconsider if you want to be a PC technician. Your whole approach is just wrong. You are going to have to change your mindset and attitude if this is the industry you want to be in.
 
FlyUAv said:
I blame microsoft for the issues that need blaming :) winblows ten is a big load of horse cr@p, and the interface a joke, yet still they actually ask money for it. Can you believe that !!!!!??????
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They didn't ask for money. It was a free upgrade for the first year, which is when I upgraded to it.

Besides that, I don't see why they can't charge for it. It's my favourite Windows by far. How is the interface a joke if it's the same one we've had for years but with a few improvements?

With an attitude like yours it seems likely you'll make issues for yourself with any operating system.
 
Bryn said:
They didn't ask for money. It was a free upgrade for the first year, which is when I upgraded to it.

Besides that, I don't see why they can't charge for it. It's my favourite Windows by far. How is the interface a joke if it's the same one we've had for years but with a few improvements?

With an attitude like yours it seems likely you'll make issues for yourself with any operating system.
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With his attitude he would also like to fix your PC for you.
 
definately i feel bad that its used so universally, poor people... Got 2 offers, so looks like i will ;)
 
I like Windows 10 but then again I never really do any homegroup shinanigans.

I use Syncthing (accorss Fedora Linux, Android and Windows) for that stuff.
 
Coloured LAN cable
Using USB instead
Peer to Peer connection

What universe am I in again?
 
Aaah a short list why Microsux have such a bad product... (maybe i'll post the long list next) :D

Devastating Windows rot (might be solved in future Windows releases if developers switch from Win32 to UWP).
No enforced file system and registry hierarchy (I have yet to find a single serious application which can uninstall itself cleanly and fully). The $USER directory in Windows, specially in Windows 10, is an inexplicable mess.
svchost.exe (the whole philosophy of preserving RAM this way became outdated years ago).
No true safe mode (rogue applications may easily run in it).
No clean state (for most OEM installations out there). This will be finally solved in new Windows 10 builds.
The user as a system administrator (thus viruses/​malware - most users don't and won't understand UAC warnings).
No good packaging mechanism (MSI is way too fragile).
No system-wide update mechanism (which includes third party software - to be fair there are third party applications which offer this functionality, but then such applications don't support core Windows updates).
In certain cases it's extremely difficult to find or update drivers for your hardware devices (anyone who's tried to install a fresh Windows onto their laptop will testify).

Windows is extremely difficult to debug (e.g. try finding out why your system is slow to boot).
Windows boot problems are too often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch.
Windows is hardware dependent (especially when running from UEFI).
Windows updates are terribly unreliable, very slow (to install) and they also waste disk space. The only released Windows 7 SP1 cumulative update, totally breaks the Windows Updates service (the worst piece of software in human history).

And Microsoft did not even apologize for it. Literally billions of watts of energy are spent and they don't give a damn! Did Microsoft fire everyone in their QA/QC department?
Windows cannot replace system DLLs on the fly and restart corresponding services which depend on said DLLs due to its architecture. As a result some system updates require multiple reboots (innocuous malevolence in me requires to mention that in Linux you can even update the kernel on the fly).

Windows keeps trying to reinstall failed updates over and over (in certain cases every such cycle of "updating" can render your PC disabled for hours!).
There's no way to cleanly upgrade your system (there will be thousands of leftovers), etc.
The Windows OS installer doesn't give a damn about other OSes installed on your PC and it always overwrites the MBR. In case of already existing Windows installations, it sets the newly installed Windows as the default OS - no questions asked. In case of UEFI, booting of other non-Windows OSes is unsupported and Windows actively prevents this.

WinSxS, though a neat idea, turned into some madness: Windows keeps the versions of files the user won't ever need: for instance the English version of Windows will have copies of files for many other languages irrespectively of the chosen locale or MUI.
Cryptic error messages (considering the size of the OS, >9GB as of Windows 10, this practice is simply ridiculous).
Most malware writers target Windows as the most popular desktop OS, so it has the biggest number of viruses among all other OSes (over five thousand new viruses daily).


Windows loves thrashing your HDD.
Microsoft programmers are still unable to cope with NTFS fragmentation twenty-five years after its introduction. To make things worse most Windows applications do not preallocate files thus they contribute to fragmentation even more.
Windows anti-virus products oftentimes make your PC less safe - so if you want perfect security and privacy, stop using Windows and migrate to Linux right away. OEM updaters make your PC wide open for attacks.
Microsoft has recently decided that you will no longer be able to download certain Windows updates manually. You'll only be able to get them via Windows Update.

"sfc /scannow" is offered as a solution to most Windows Update Service and Microsoft Installer Service errors, yet in 95% of cases it's totally ineffective.

Windows does not allow you to use any partitions other than the first one on your removable USB flash drive. There's no logic or explanation behind this totally ridiculous and artificial limitation.

Windows does not automatically clean temporary files ever, however it must do that for every reboot/power cycle.

The generic drivers Windows comes with are not always compatible with the wide range of existing hardware. Since Windows has a habit of replacing your vendor's drivers with its own newer drivers your hardware may stop working correctly after upgrading to a newer Windows release (remember that Windows 10 is a codename for major different operating systems, e.g. like Windows Vista vs Windows 7 in the past).

Microsoft has gone crazy: Windows 10 is now a recommended update for all Windows 7/8.1 users unless you're running their Enterprise versions. That means your computer will automatically update to Windows 10 unless you either disable the Windows Update service completely or set Windows updates to the manual mode.

In May 2016 Microsoft started deceptively updating users' PCs to Windows 10 regardless of your Automatic Windows Updates settings or the way you interact with the GWX application.
 
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And a favorite general quote from a poor lad:

Here we go again, Microsoft will be badgering windows' suckers to 'up(down)grade again. Probably more requirements to 'use the "cloud"' data theft systems. Probably written to walk around anti-sabotage systems meant to keep this W10 P.O.S. out of systems. Girlfriend's computer was threatened by the original W10 silently subverting her computer unknown to her and without her permission. Her computer was about to be assassinated as soon as she rebooted when I went in and downloaded rescueware GWX and ran it. GWX found over sixty six THOUSAND files, 66,000, and deleted them all. The same GWX also found malware additions to her registry files put there by windows sneak and thiefware and got rid of them too. To this day that program watches over her computer by night and by day for when that murderous malware micro$$ rears its ugly rear again
 
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FlyUAv said:
Aaah a short list why Microsux have such a bad product... (maybe i'll post the long list next) :D

Devastating Windows rot (might be solved in future Windows releases if developers switch from Win32 to UWP).
No enforced file system and registry hierarchy (I have yet to find a single serious application which can uninstall itself cleanly and fully). The $USER directory in Windows, specially in Windows 10, is an inexplicable mess.
svchost.exe (the whole philosophy of preserving RAM this way became outdated years ago).
No true safe mode (rogue applications may easily run in it).
No clean state (for most OEM installations out there). This will be finally solved in new Windows 10 builds.
The user as a system administrator (thus viruses/​malware - most users don't and won't understand UAC warnings).
No good packaging mechanism (MSI is way too fragile).
No system-wide update mechanism (which includes third party software - to be fair there are third party applications which offer this functionality, but then such applications don't support core Windows updates).
In certain cases it's extremely difficult to find or update drivers for your hardware devices (anyone who's tried to install a fresh Windows onto their laptop will testify).

Windows is extremely difficult to debug (e.g. try finding out why your system is slow to boot).
Windows boot problems are too often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch.
Windows is hardware dependent (especially when running from UEFI).
Windows updates are terribly unreliable, very slow (to install) and they also waste disk space. The only released Windows 7 SP1 cumulative update, totally breaks the Windows Updates service (the worst piece of software in human history).

And Microsoft did not even apologize for it. Literally billions of watts of energy are spent and they don't give a damn! Did Microsoft fire everyone in their QA/QC department?
Windows cannot replace system DLLs on the fly and restart corresponding services which depend on said DLLs due to its architecture. As a result some system updates require multiple reboots (innocuous malevolence in me requires to mention that in Linux you can even update the kernel on the fly).

Windows keeps trying to reinstall failed updates over and over (in certain cases every such cycle of "updating" can render your PC disabled for hours!).
There's no way to cleanly upgrade your system (there will be thousands of leftovers), etc.
The Windows OS installer doesn't give a damn about other OSes installed on your PC and it always overwrites the MBR. In case of already existing Windows installations, it sets the newly installed Windows as the default OS - no questions asked. In case of UEFI, booting of other non-Windows OSes is unsupported and Windows actively prevents this.

WinSxS, though a neat idea, turned into some madness: Windows keeps the versions of files the user won't ever need: for instance the English version of Windows will have copies of files for many other languages irrespectively of the chosen locale or MUI.
Cryptic error messages (considering the size of the OS, >9GB as of Windows 10, this practice is simply ridiculous).
Most malware writers target Windows as the most popular desktop OS, so it has the biggest number of viruses among all other OSes (over five thousand new viruses daily).


Windows loves thrashing your HDD.
Microsoft programmers are still unable to cope with NTFS fragmentation twenty-five years after its introduction. To make things worse most Windows applications do not preallocate files thus they contribute to fragmentation even more.
Windows anti-virus products oftentimes make your PC less safe - so if you want perfect security and privacy, stop using Windows and migrate to Linux right away. OEM updaters make your PC wide open for attacks.
Microsoft has recently decided that you will no longer be able to download certain Windows updates manually. You'll only be able to get them via Windows Update.

"sfc /scannow" is offered as a solution to most Windows Update Service and Microsoft Installer Service errors, yet in 95% of cases it's totally ineffective.

Windows does not allow you to use any partitions other than the first one on your removable USB flash drive. There's no logic or explanation behind this totally ridiculous and artificial limitation.

Windows does not automatically clean temporary files ever, however it must do that for every reboot/power cycle.

The generic drivers Windows comes with are not always compatible with the wide range of existing hardware. Since Windows has a habit of replacing your vendor's drivers with its own newer drivers your hardware may stop working correctly after upgrading to a newer Windows release (remember that Windows 10 is a codename for major different operating systems, e.g. like Windows Vista vs Windows 7 in the past).

Microsoft has gone crazy: Windows 10 is now a recommended update for all Windows 7/8.1 users unless you're running their Enterprise versions. That means your computer will automatically update to Windows 10 unless you either disable the Windows Update service completely or set Windows updates to the manual mode.

In May 2016 Microsoft started deceptively updating users' PCs to Windows 10 regardless of your Automatic Windows Updates settings or the way you interact with the GWX application.
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TL ;DR
 
FlyUAv said:
And a favorite general quote from a poor lad:

Here we go again, Microsoft will be badgering windows' suckers to 'up(down)grade again. Probably more requirements to 'use the "cloud"' data theft systems. Probably written to walk around anti-sabotage systems meant to keep this W10 P.O.S. out of systems. Girlfriend's computer was threatened by the original W10 silently subverting her computer unknown to her and without her permission. Her computer was about to be assassinated as soon as she rebooted when I went in and downloaded rescueware GWX and ran it. GWX found over sixty six THOUSAND files, 66,000, and deleted them all. The same GWX also found malware additions to her registry files put there by windows sneak and thiefware and got rid of them too. To this day that program watches over her computer by night and by day for when that murderous malware micro$$ rears its ugly rear again
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no:mad:
 
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