Why have kids?

i have a friend called Dean who didn't wanna have kids for all sorts of reasons. He has two girls now. Luvs them to bits.
 
Gary is right, your whole motivation for this thread is questionable. Either you're looking to be persuaded out of a vasectomy, or you want to attack those who made the decision to have children so that you can feel more justified in your abstinence. We both gave the same response as to why we'd have children - firstly it's a great joy to have them, and secondly the responsibility of raising them properly is worth the time and sacrifice involved. You don't really have a rebuttal to this other than to say that you know bad parents, which to me only makes it more imperative that there are parents who can do their jobs properly.

If you don't want to participate in that number, then get your vasectomy - the world would undoubtedly be better off without more neglected, spoiled or abused spawn. You don't even need a good reason for it, it's your decision to make and your vas deferens to circumvent.
 
Well think of it this way...If your parents were not sure if they wanted to bring a child into this world and never ended up having kids, you wouldn't be here. Its the cycle of life... Having a child gives you meaning to live and makes you work harder in life to give your child everything and to make sure he will live a happy life while you are part of this earth and i think that is good reason why i want to have kids one day.

OK FLAME ME NOW xD
 
In fact.... if you wanna ask the question... why have kids? You should ask yourself why do anything at all?

Why live? Why work? Why carry on with life?

Why not just off yourself right now and be done with it?

It's a philosophical question that has concerned people for thousands of years. What is the meaning of it all? Why carry on? What is the point of life and existence?

If you cannot find an answer to that to satisfy yourself, then you are going to be depressed for the rest of your life.

Life is what you make it. Go and make it meaningful. Having kids is a big part of that meaning to many people.

If it isn't for you... then that is fine, but that does not give you the right to judge others for their quest for meaning in life.

We enjoy kids. We are far from selfish. To love kids is to sacrifice for them financially, and emotionally.

Selfishness is thinking your life is so important that you are not willing to take risks or invest in another's life.

The height of selfishness is self-absorption.
 
Ive also thought about this. The mere fact that people "Don't want to live alone" makes it a selfish act. Ive got no problem with people having kids, ive got a problem when people have kids and can't afford to get them educated, can't discipline them and essentially toss them aside. Just my opinion of course.
 
dal2000 said:
Ive also thought about this. The mere fact that people "Don't want to live alone" makes it a selfish act. Ive got no problem with people having kids, ive got a problem when people have kids and can't afford to get them educated, can't discipline them and essentially toss them aside. Just my opinion of course.
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hmmm!
 
MartyMarts said:
@satanboy - have you asked your parents why they had you?
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They are liars. I wouldn't believe their answer in any case. When I asked why my birth date was BEFORE their wedding date, I was told that the government made a mistake with the dates. (The fact that there are NO wedding pictures may also be a clue.)
 
satanboy said:
They are liars. I wouldn't believe their answer in any case. When I asked why my birth date was BEFORE their wedding date, I was told that the government made a mistake with the dates. (The fact that there are NO wedding pictures may also be a clue.)
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The psychologist in me wants to pounce all over this information. ;)
 
why have kids?
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been asking this myself a million times VS the normal response of :

1) love
2) someone to teach
3) someone to bring up
4) someone to <insert>

doesn't mean i'm bitter, just what is the real point to it all.

do i children for my security when i'm old ?
 
selfish = chiefly concerned with one's own interest, advantage, etc., esp to the total exclusion of the interests of others

I don't see a problem with that. After all I am a selfish person too.

Give me a better word then.
 
Garyvdh said:
In fact.... if you wanna ask the question... why have kids? You should ask yourself why do anything at all?
Why live? Why work? Why carry on with life?
Why not just off yourself right now and be done with it?
It's a philosophical question that has concerned people for thousands of years. What is the meaning of it all? Why carry on? What is the point of life and existence?
If you cannot find an answer to that to satisfy yourself, then you are going to be depressed for the rest of your life.
Life is what you make it. Go and make it meaningful. Having kids is a big part of that meaning to many people.
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interesting that you should have such a nietzschean perspective.
i sometimes wonder if people don't also adopt religion for this purpose?
/ducks gary's flames of wrath :D
 
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satanboy said:
selfish = chiefly concerned with one's own interest, advantage, etc., esp to the total exclusion of the interests of others

I don't see a problem with that. After all I am a selfish person too.

Give me a better word then.
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I think you are projecting your own insecurities and inadequacies onto others.

I don't see having kids as selfish at all. Life is a gift. I gave life to my three kids. My wife and I have sacrificed for them and do our best to raise them with character, knowledge, drive and resolve.

We want the best for them. We want them to live happy and fulfilled lives and to be a blessing to others.

Our greatest reward is in serving others. Not in what we get from life.

Life find meaning when you start investing in others. The reward is seeing a smile on someone else's face.
 
here is a conundrum, to procreate or not to procreate:

I choose to have offspring: I can teach them my beliefs, I can teach them how to be beneficial to the survival of our species. They can be part of human evolution.

I choose not to procreate: I contribute to limiting overpopulation. Other people don't and their children continue the trend and are counter productive to the evolution process.
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Interesting thought.
 
satanboy said:
They are liars. I wouldn't believe their answer in any case. When I asked why my birth date was BEFORE their wedding date, I was told that the government made a mistake with the dates. (The fact that there are NO wedding pictures may also be a clue.)
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Ok. Well my daughter was not planned, she came along when I thought we were too young/poor to have a child. We weren't (and are still not) married. It's not something I'm ashamed of. My daughter is the best thing that has happened to me (and her mother). No regrets whatsoever.
Dude I can be having the worst day ever and a smile, a hug and a 'I love you, Dad' can turn my day around completely.
 
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