Why i wouldn't vote DA

You're confusing the campaign and the platform. The DA stands for a lot more than just opposing Zuma. If you're really interested in politics, why not check out their website and read their policies for yourself.
The problem is that we have access to the internet but 90% of SA don't. So how is the DA going about convincing this 90% of the population to vote for them? All they're doing is saying don't vote for Zuma, but they're not really giving a reason to vote for them either.
 
All parties promise a hot air balloon taking you to paradise before the election. After the election, all they can deliver on is the hot air :rolleyes:

Improvements for the poor get done at a hundredth of a snails pace. It is only the well connected wealthy people who benefit by having associates in power.

But even though we know all the above already, it is definitely not a reason not to vote. Even if your party of choice is not the winner, at least you will be satisfied you had some impact on the final result.
 
Well, Pumpkin king, by not voting at all, you are actually doing the ANC a big favour.

I seriously fail to understand this reasoning. First of all, you have a party which can win by any means possible, ie Zuma. And secondly, there are FAR more ANC supporters, just by black vote than any other party. So, the ANC will win no matter what.
 
People like that make me wanna cry :(

so he'll vote for guy that sings about killing people with his trusty machine gun, rather? Idiot.... :mad:

Hehehe, I was trying to point out its better to vote for a song about rainbows than machine guns, I suppose :/
 
They're the opposition, they oppose the ruling party (the trick is in the wording).

But if you're too lazy to read their policies and would rather just complain, I can't help you.

EDIT: what does the ANC offer besides "Together we can do more crime"???

Fixed it for you.

+1 on their terrible campaign. I haven't ever heard about how they are gonna make our country better, it's all about how ANC is so bad.

They just trying to rope in the gullible middle aged white people and their housewives.

Just look at the W-Cape and you will see how they are already making the country better :)
 
+1 on their terrible campaign. I haven't ever heard about how they are gonna make our country better, it's all about how ANC is so bad.

They just trying to rope in the gullible middle aged white people and their housewives.

Have you read through their policies? Have you heard Helen Zille speak? Or do you just gather your information from the media?
 
Well, Pumpkin king, by not voting at all, you are actually doing the ANC a big favour. Did you know that Zanu-pf won the 2000 election by a slim 1%? They won by that margin and they realised that they won't win the next elections, so what did they do? They gave farms to people, farms which were taken illegally from their owners and farms which were productive, all in the name of being the ruling party. Now just think for a minute, what if all MDC supporters voted for MDC, would Zim be in the state that it is in right now? I don't think so. So what you must realise is that all ANC supporters will vote for the ANC, while people who don't support the ANC and people who are fed up with the ANC will not vote at all, reason varying from "the ANC will win anyway, so why should I bother voting?" and "there is no other party to vote for", those statements and mentality will give the ANC more power (two-thirds majority). What I think should happen in the upcoming elections is for the ANC to not win by a two-thirds majority, because if they do, they WILL change the constitution.


+1 :)

couldn't have said it better myself !
 
Please all of you vote, otherwise the ANC WILL get a 2/3 majority. This country cannot afford that.
 
all that BS about fixing this and creating more jobs and what not, yes its BS but its better than "HEY! dont vote for the whiney old lady!"

Except they have a proven track record in Cape Town, or did you just conveniently forget that? Now who is the one sprouting BS at the top of his lungs without a shred of evidence.

Your argument has suddenly been found to be very lacking.
 
So why do they not voice this more? Instead of leaving it on a website where majority of voters will never go and have a look.

Have you heard the interviews? Gone to a rally? Spoken to a representative?

No. Well what more would you have the DA do? Tell us, please do.
 
The problem is that we have access to the internet but 90% of SA don't. So how is the DA going about convincing this 90% of the population to vote for them? All they're doing is saying don't vote for Zuma, but they're not really giving a reason to vote for them either.
For the literate and net-connected part of the population, the platform is available. These are the sorts of people who vote on policy (though the exceptions are evident here). For 'the masses', the populist campaign is what counts. The DA, I assume, is aware that they can never convince the masses to vote on substantive policy issues (they never do), so their campaign is simply a way of picking up some Zumaphobic votes. It's called politics. The masses vote with gut, not brain.
 
Oh my word, a sensible PK thread!! :eek::D

That is true, though. They never say what they plan to do; they just keep stating that they're the opposition and we should vote for them on that basis.

I will go through to look at their policies, and all the other parties' policies. Let's be honest and say that the vast majority won't, though. If I was basing it on just their ads, I would not vote DA. Their ads tell me nothing about what they plan to do for me.

Honestly, their ads made me more inclined not to vote for them. I get the impression of noisemakers with no substance.

And what do you feel about the other political partie's ads? How do they speak to you?
 
I seriously fail to understand this reasoning. First of all, you have a party which can win by any means possible, ie Zuma. And secondly, there are FAR more ANC supporters, just by black vote than any other party. So, the ANC will win no matter what.

Yes, the ANC will win no matter what, but do you want the ANC to win by a two-thirds majority? In case you don't know, if the ANC has a two-thirds majority, it means they can do whatever they want with this country, and I mean anything, they can change the constitution, change this country into a communist state, they an do absolutely anything. Yes, we all know that the ANC will win the elections, but what me and the DA don't want is the ANC to not win by a two-thirds majority. Some guy by the name of Load Acton said "power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely".
 
Please all of you vote, otherwise the ANC WILL get a 2/3 majority. This country cannot afford that.

Last time I checked the ANC already had a two-thirds majority, and hell hasn't frozen over yet.

I'm not saying that it is a good thing for the ANC, or any party, to have that much power, I'm just tired of the scare-mongering around the two-thirds majority.
 
By not voting you are in actual fact voting for the ANC.

I agree with you on the lame and shamefull way the DA are going about at the moment, but I suppose that is all that is left for them to do as their policies are quite clear. Mabey Zille is trying to bait someone for a debate.

As a matter of fact the only organization whose policies are not clear are the ANC as debates etc are beneath them.

If you don't take the time to go and vote you are pathetic in my eyes, and should not be given an oppertunity to complain about anything.
 
The problem is that we have access to the internet but 90% of SA don't. So how is the DA going about convincing this 90% of the population to vote for them? All they're doing is saying don't vote for Zuma, but they're not really giving a reason to vote for them either.

Helen Zille is in the middle of a tour of the whole country, what more do you want? Her to come and sit in your lounge and have a face-to-face?

If you don't go out there to here representatives speaking then you don't care about these elections. The DA is probably making more of an effort than any other party - so please do tell me what you would have them do differently?
 
I seriously fail to understand this reasoning. First of all, you have a party which can win by any means possible, ie Zuma. And secondly, there are FAR more ANC supporters, just by black vote than any other party. So, the ANC will win no matter what.

Bam! You just put Mugabe in power, killed hundreds of White farmers, turned Zim into a complete mess. Well done!
 
Yes, the ANC will win no matter what, but do you want the ANC to win by a two-thirds majority? In case you don't know, if the ANC has a two-thirds majority, it means they can do whatever they want with this country, and I mean anything, they can change the constitution, change this country into a communist state, they an do absolutely anything. Yes, we all know that the ANC will win the elections, but what me and the DA don't want is the ANC to not win by a two-thirds majority. Some guy by the name of Load Acton said "power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely".

They already have a two-thirds majority, and have for the last five years. Yes, they've changed the constitution (as would the DA if they had a two-thirds majority), but I must've missed the point where we became a communist state.

I'm not saying that it is a good thing for the ANC, or any party, to have that much power, I'm just tired of the scare-mongering around the two-thirds majority etc etc.
 
Have you heard the interviews? Gone to a rally? Spoken to a representative?

No. Well what more would you have the DA do? Tell us, please do.

This isn't about me. I already plan to vote DA. I'm speaking about the voters they would be trying to attract. Which let's face it, are the present ANC voters and some other parties. I don't feel their ad campaign would reach the ANC voter successfully. "Don't vote for Zuma" is not reason to vote DA. Nobody is debating their rallies and informed representatives and well-thought out policies. My problem is how they are portraying themselves on radio and in the media which let's face is what South Africans pay attention to.
 
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