Wi-Fi killer?

- Garauntee'd speeds
- provides unlimited data usage
- manages and controls contention ratios to provide dedicated end-to-end capacity with no capacity sharing between clients

Erm.
What's that?
 
What they fail to mention, how much Orion is going to charge you for the links...
The wisps will still have a market to operate in. Its far from wifi killer.
 
"Unlicensed operators will simply not be able to compete with this service," says Du Toit. "We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."
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Mr du Toit would be well advised to be better informed as MD of Orion Telecom & are iBurst going to continue to bang the unlicensed operators drum now that the Altech judgement has proved them wrong for the last 3 years? it seems pretty clear from what their customers are saying that they would be better advised to deal with their own inadequacies.
 
mufasa said:
What they fail to mention, how much Orion is going to charge you for the links...
The wisps will still have a market to operate in. Its far from wifi killer.
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True, I would say the statements are a bit presumptuous considering that on average a licensed wireless link would come at double the price of a Telkom Diginet line, and the WISPs are generally cheaper than Diginet.

Still licensed wireless (microwave) has its place.
 
I quote...

"Unlicensed operators will simply not be able to compete with this service," says Du Toit."

By the looks of it, they do not offer anything which has not been available through the WISP industry for the last 5 years. Any WAPA member can offer these services, and I suspect at much better rates than what this will cost.

"We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."

The spectacular growth of the unregulated environment has been fueled by customers who were tired of the terrible service they have received from Big T and company. The WISP industry is one of the 3 largest connectivity solutions in SA, built on good service, happy customers, good pricing - fall flat? Not any day soon!
 
I'm a bit sceptical myself.

...with the launch of the country’s first licensed wireless frequency band heralding the end for unregulated wireless service providers
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That's a pretty bold statement about a company (WBS) that probably doesn't have a single client for this "new" technology yet has been the only company to "legally operate" and have "licensed frequency" at the expense of the rest of South Africa's for the last 5 years. I wonder why?

Hey wait a second - now I remember!:
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=5678
"“Ultimately, people must decide whether they want to be customers of the Enrons and Masterbonds of the Internet industry,” said Thami Mtshali, CEO of iBurst. "
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In 2007 they were predicting the end of society ;-)

Furthermore:
...and has Gold Service Level Agreements
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Before you slap an SLA on an abstract medium such as radio frequency you better read the terms of service! ;-)

And finally:
"We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."
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Progress in telecommunication depend on free and fair competition, not market dominance and frequency cronyism by state sponsored capitalist institutions. The technology used in the unlicensed band is light years ahead in terms of ease of use and adaptation. It is also very easy to upgrade.

Before you write off an entire industry you should probably do a bit more homework, like stopping off at WAPA or any of their thousands of happy clients.
 
So me an my buddy wanna link our homes. If they could do that for under R100, then maybe. R50 per additional head, I'd be game. Anything more, and I think there are better ways to go about it. So I doubt this will make any impact except for businesses.
 
talk is cheap and easy but actually providing a cost effective solution is not.
 
vodacom3g said:
The best "WiFi Killer" out there is actually WiFi itself with so many poorly implemented networks. And (unfair) over-inflated expectations.
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Every new wifi link that gets installed increases the noise in the spectrum and erodes the business case for the WISPs further. Anyone who is relying on wifi links for business critical Internet access within any of the built up areas in this country has not made a long term investment.

That said - the WISPs provide a very cost effective solution for rural areas that Telkom is not willing to cover. But that isn't so lucrative so the WISPs don't really want to deal in that space :p
 
99.5% up time means almost 2 days of downtime per year. I doubt that's acceptable to most businesses, even if WBS can give them 99.5% (which I doubt).
 
"Unlicensed operators will simply not be able to compete with this service," says Du Toit. "We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."
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He is using the best defense. Offense. To hide your own bad service, you try to highlight your competitors bad service?

It is NEVER great news for consumers if the competition is removed from the market.
 
I quote:

"We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."

"The best "WiFi Killer" out there is actually WiFi itself with so many poorly implemented networks. And (unfair) over-inflated expectations."

"Every new wifi link that gets installed increases the noise in the spectrum and erodes the business case for the WISPs further. Anyone who is relying on wifi links for business critical Internet access within any of the built up areas in this country has not made a long term investment."


I am a WISP in the western Cape, my company recently got a 9/10 rating from a Satellite Service Provider's independent study.


I qoute:

"That said - the WISPs provide a very cost effective solution for rural areas that Telkom is not willing to cover. But that isn't so lucrative so the WISPs don't really want to deal in that space."

A big portion of our clientelle is situated in rural areas. We also offer free and subsidised services to schools, previously disadvantage communities, libraries, non-provitable organizations etc. which I doubt is the case with the "Big boys".

WAPA can provide accurate stats on affordability and reliability of major WISPS in the country. Furthermore the only problem I foresee in the future is new players entering this market which does not have the necessary experience and know how on how to run a WISP sucessfully. (It is legal for a VANS license holder to self-provide and that will enable new players to enter this market)
 
rvdb said:
I quote:

"We expect that the unregulated environment will fall flat, which is great news for customers who are tired of the terrible service they have received up to now."

"The best "WiFi Killer" out there is actually WiFi itself with so many poorly implemented networks. And (unfair) over-inflated expectations."

"Every new wifi link that gets installed increases the noise in the spectrum and erodes the business case for the WISPs further. Anyone who is relying on wifi links for business critical Internet access within any of the built up areas in this country has not made a long term investment."


I am a WISP in the western Cape, my company recently got a 9/10 rating from a Satellite Service Provider's independent study.


I qoute:

"That said - the WISPs provide a very cost effective solution for rural areas that Telkom is not willing to cover. But that isn't so lucrative so the WISPs don't really want to deal in that space."

A big portion of our clientelle is situated in rural areas. We also offer free and subsidised services to schools, previously disadvantage communities, libraries, non-provitable organizations etc. which I doubt is the case with the "Big boys".

WAPA can provide accurate stats on affordability and reliability of major WISPS in the country. Furthermore the only problem I foresee in the future is new players entering this market which does not have the necessary experience and know how on how to run a WISP sucessfully. (It is legal for a VANS license holder to self-provide and that will enable new players to enter this market)
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Every new player that enters the market, makes it that more difficult for the others.

How do you do frequency planning if you don't know who the other players are, what frequencies they'll be using and where?

It's easy if you're the only player in an area and the service might work well. This will then attract competitors and will have a possible knock-on effect on the first network's frequency planning. Same with the third network, etc.

So WiFi (being an unregulated space) becomes its own worst enemy.
 
Can anyone give some info an laser based long range data links. Who ( brand ) makes them Unlike any radio ( read WiFi or WiMax ) it wont be affected by interference.
 
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