Windows 10 Anniversary Update woes continue

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Original article : http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104999/microsoft-windows/windows-10-anniversary-update-woes-continue.html :erm:
Late last week, I recommended that you actively block the Windows 10 Anniversary Update. The past few days have brought yet another wave of complaints. Here’s a sample.

Last week, I talked about the Reddit post from SoloWingX stating that Windows 10 freezes completely after the Anniversary Update. That thread is now up to 680 comments. SoloWingX has done yeoman work documenting dozens of potential solutions -- and none of them have been successful. He concludes with a TL;DR:

To all affected people, we haven't yet found a definite solution, so the only option to get a working PC at the moment is to roll back to a previous build in case you updated.

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As noted last week, you have only 10 days to roll back from the Anniversary Update (Win10 version 1607) to the Fall Update (version 1511).

Edge still has plenty of problems. I’ve hit situations where Edge will not close by clicking on the red X. Also, I can X out of the last open tab and Edge keeps running, when closing the only open tab should shut down the program as a whole. The problems seem to appear after visiting sites with lots of ads -- like the ones linked to from msn.com, for example. Once the problems start, they don’t go away. The only solution I’ve found is to reboot.

Two antivirus manufacturers have reported problems. McAfee states:

Do not [emphasis in the original] upgrade to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update without first verifying whether your McAfee product is compatible. This caution affects the products listed in the Environment section above... Microsoft intended to implement an upgrade and installation check to ensure that no incompatible McAfee product versions could be installed or present. Due to time constraints, Microsoft could not implement the intended version check in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update… Microsoft has indicated that a hotfix will be released some time after the Windows 10 Anniversary Update to implement the version check. The Microsoft hotfix will protect against installation of incompatible McAfee product versions; however, this hotfix cannot protect against upgrades to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update from nodes already running an incompatible McAfee product version on a previous build of Windows.

Avast has a similar warning:

On Tuesday, August 2, Microsoft released their latest version of Windows 10 -- the Anniversary Update -- via the Windows Update channel. While the majority of our users didn’t have a problem, certain HW configurations didn't mix well with the update… This occurred during upgrades to the Windows 10 Anniversary edition from previous versions of Windows, and during clean installations of Avast Antivirus on systems already running the Anniversary Update… Neither the Windows Insider program nor the Avast Antivirus Beta channel indicated any forewarning of such behavior.

By the way, to see an excellent example of a bug advisory, look at the Avast announcement -- very well done, clear, and thorough. Kudos!

Sam Machkovech at Ars Technica reports Xbox One controllers and Windows 10 PCs: It’s all a mess right now:

Whether you use a new Bluetooth controller or you upgraded your old XB1 to this week's Windows 10 Anniversary edition, get ready for some road bumps… That being said, the primary compatibility issue is wreaking havoc on various PC games whose controller support used to work just fine. Some games no longer recognize when Xbox One controllers are connected via Bluetooth or through the official Xbox One wireless adapter. Other games, as well as Steam's Big Picture mode, think a single Xbox One controller is two controllers simultaneously… Windows 10's Anniversary update also broke current homebrew ways to get popular controllers, like Sony's DualShock 4, to play with Windows PCs.

The Ars angst for Xbox One controllers on Win10 Anniversary Update goes on for several pages.

In the FUD zone, I’m still unclear about the ability to block crapware tiles. I wrote about the problem a couple of weeks ago: Admins can’t keep Microsoft from pushing crapware Live tiles onto Win10 Pro PCs because certain Group Policies don’t work in the Anniversary Update. My current Win10 Pro AU machine has tiles for Solitaire, Candy Crush Soda Saga, Pandora, Asphalt 8, Age of Empires Castle Siege, FarmVille 2, Minecraft, Twitter, and Get Office -- in other words, about half of my Start menu tiles are unabashed, Microsoft-installed crapware, all on a machine that’s been through the official “start fresh” regimen.

Now there’s a debate raging on AskWoody.com about those tiles and whether individual Win10 Pro customers can block them. Microsoft Engineer J. Decker, writing on TechNet, says:

On all Windows desktop editions, users can directly enable and disable Windows 10 tips, tricks, and suggestions and Windows Store suggestions. For example, users are able to select personal photos for the lock screen as opposed to the images provided by Microsoft, or turn off tips, tricks, or suggestions as they use Windows.

Some interpret Decker as saying “all advertising in the Anniversary Update can be turned off by the user.” I think that’s a great goal and would love to tell people how to do it. But in my experiments, I can’t get the crapware tiles turned off. If you know how, slap me upside the head on AskWoody.

I’m not saying that everyone’s having problems -- far from it. But I'm saying there are enough problems -- some of them severe -- floating around that installing the Win10 Anniversary Update at this point doesn’t make sense. Well-informed customers would be advised to wait until the bugs get ironed out.

I fully expect that Microsoft will include some fixes in this week’s Patch Tuesday. Likely we’ll have fixes for both version 1511 build 10586 (the old Fall Update) and version 1607 build 14393 (the new Anniversary Update) that will reduce problems with the upgrade from one to the other. Equally likely, we won’t see much -- if any -- documentation about the fixes. They’ll be rolled into cumulative updates.

Let’s wait until later this week to see if the complaint decibel level dies down.
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I've now installed 1607 on 13 systems at home. Three of these are VMs, admittedly.

The only hassle was on the little Acer 10E notebook which acts as a media selector at the lounge amp. It came with Win 8.1 Home, and a year ago upgraded to Win10 without issue. However, after the Anniversary Update upgrade Windows didn't activate. An online chat with Msft Support and their remote connection quickly solved that prob.

All systems happily running Anniversary Update, other than the ESXi box with Open BSD. And the Raspberry Pi.

Sysadmin is happy.
 
Updated Gaming Desktop, Media PC and HP Tablet to 1607 No problems.

Laptop on the other hand randomly started freezing, No idea why. Mostly started when coming from an Idle state. Ran sfc scan with no luck. At 1st I thought it was hardware, dual booting to Mint did not have the same problem. Clean install of 1607 also did not fix the issue.

Booting to Mint for now till the issue is sorted.
 
Arthur said:
Win Central has a guide on Common problems and how to fix them for Anniv Upd.
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Thanx for the link, pity it has no selution to my problem :(

Windows 10 freezes after installing the Anniversary Update
Error

Full system freeze

Description

After installing the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, a number of users on Reddit and Microsoft forums have been reporting freeze after starting up. The operating system may work well for a minutes, but then it will become unresponsive, which can result on a Microsoft Windows is not responding message.

Sometimes restarting the operating system may seem to solve the problem, but the freeze issue will continue.
Status

Microsoft hasn't acknowledge this issue as a problem with the update, even though it seems that the number of users experience the same problem is growing.
Resolution

There isn't an official resolution for this problem. On Reddit, user SoloWingX, has been proactively updating the thread with a lot of troubleshooting steps, but nothing seem to be working as a permanent solution.

On the other hand, Microsoft recommends to the System Maintenance troubleshooter or do a Clean boot of Windows 10, but none of the suggestions seems to work either.

If you're experiencing this problem, the best thing you can do is roll back to the previous version of the operating system:

Open Settings.
Click on Update & security.
Click on Recovery.
Click the Get started button under "Go back to an earlier build".
Follow the on-screen steps to go back to the previous version.

It's worth pointing out that on the same Reddit thread, user KuruQan has posted that rolling back to the previous version of Windows 10 and removing the $WINDOWS.~BT, $WINDOWS.~WS folder from the C: drive, and using the ISO file to reinstall the Windows 10 Anniversary Update fixes the problem. However, this workaround worked just for a few moments.
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On the positive side, good to know I'm not the only one with the problem.

Will keep an eye out as I reckon they will fix it once they can find out what the cause is.
 
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backstreetboy said:
It was patch Tuesday yesterday. You up to date?
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Well it was at the logon screen tonight when I got home, so I would venture a guess and say yes. I did update it to 1607 last week. My Laptop started with the "No response" crap from right after the update.

Good thing Media is on USB Drive and I can dual boot to Remix OS, so will hang in Remix till Microsoft find the problem.
 
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I have had NO hassles at all with 22 PCs upgraded to the new version of WIN 10 Pro. My own PC upgrade was done using the MS update process, the others are all clean installs.

There were issues to today, but I quickly realised that it was due to the patches and other updates that ran last night/early this morning.

The solution was simple. Stop ALL activity on the affected PCs (x3), and allow the updates to complete first .

Back to normal an hour later.
 
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