Windows 10 Creators Update - what a disaster!

Arthur

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Creator's Update. Loving it. And today's Patch Tuesday update fixed a niggly issue with the dual 4K screens.
 

allthatweare

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Thanks for the warning!

Way to go, ignoring the majority saying they have zero problems.

Ignore me too, not even a hint of an issue with the Creators update on my PC and tablet. Even updated using windows update.
 

mr_norris

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What exactly happened though?

Creators update worked fine on my laptop, but I had some issues that stuck with it that started months before I updated. So what I did was download the latest update and do a fresh install. Solved all my problems.
 

Bryn

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I got the update the day of its proper public release, even before Windows prompted me. Not a single issue.

Can't say I give a damn as almost nothing changed.
 

CataclysmZA

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Creator's Update on my Ryzen system works just fine. I'm on the fast ring on my netbook and that's OK too.
 

Geoff.D

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I saw a R24K HP system crash today - after it auto updated to this new Windows 10 Creators Update :sick:

Had to do a Windows rollback using Win 10 recovery DVD to resolve the issue.

So for now its fixed - but how the heck is one going to prevent Win 10 from trying to auto upgrade the Windows version to this buggy update again?

So anyway - just a warning to all of you - this update may crash your perfectly working HP laptop or desktop. Be warned. It just hangs the whole system and locks you out of Win 10 functions.

Took a while to fix as you can imagine.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/

What version of WIN 10 creators are you having problems with? I had absolutely no issues on 15 laptops and desktops I maintain this week. All of them run Win 10 Pro, and all of them are set to NOT do any auto updates. They HPs Dells Mecer etc.

It is so easy to customize the update process to suit your needs, IF you take the trouble and spend the time to do the customization work needed. Even ( as already posted) on the Home versions of Windows. There are virtually NO bugs and issues anymore.

So what version of Windows are you running on the problem computer?
 

sajunky

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Who in this day and age Let PC's update automatically?

Seriously?????

Install WSUS point to it and approve what you want esp if you in IT, Hell with a simple reg edit you can even force Home editions to only uses WSUS. Oh and this will also block updates as well. You can even tell it not to push 1 update to 1 PC but approve the rest.

For Home and Home Single, just add contents below into a Update.reg file created with notepad and run it (Replace 127.0.0.1 with your local WSUS server.)


Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"AcceptTrustedPublisherCerts"=dword:00000001
"ElevateNonAdmins"=dword:00000001
"TargetGroup"="Workstations"
"TargetGroupEnabled"=dword:00000000
"WUServer"="http://127.0.0.1"
"WUStatusServer"="http://127.0.0.1"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"AUOptions"=dword:00000004
"AUPowerManagement"=dword:00000001
"AutoInstallMinorUpdates"=dword:00000001
"DetectionFrequency"=dword:0000000a
"DetectionFrequencyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"IncludeRecommendedUpdates"=dword:00000001
"NoAUAsDefaultShutdownOption"=dword:00000001
"NoAUShutdownOption"=dword:00000001
"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001
"NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000000
"RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:0000000a
"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RescheduleWaitTime"=dword:0000000a
"RescheduleWaitTimeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"ScheduledInstallDay"=dword:00000000
"ScheduledInstallTime"=dword:00000003
"UseWUServer"=dword:00000001


Now you can approve the updates to your hearts content. Even better if you have more than on PC you don't have to download the updates more than once.
The old Win8 registry hacks were working before and Microsoft disabled most of them in 1607 and later. Also since the 1607 policy editing in Pro version is ignored. Strictly speaking it is provisional, depends on the current instructions from Microsoft's servers. It is a reason why I received complete "denial of service" UAC on the computer without Internet access with automatic updates disabled in PE. When I posted this picture, Microsoft mole called me an "uneducated lier". Now it is generally acknowledged that Windows do that at will. WINstarveling.JPG

Similarly the above registry hack can be ignored in future in a new OS update. You will be used as a livestock to clear the minefield (as the article say) without even knowing it. Not even mentioning Bitcoin mining on your computer - a separate issue. Give up with Windows 10, it is what we can do the best.
 
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AlphaJohn

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The old Win8 registry hacks were working before and Microsoft disabled most of them in 1607 and later. Also since the 1607 policy editing in Pro version is ignored. Strictly speaking it is provisional, depends on the current instructions from Microsoft's servers. It is a reason why I received complete "denial of service" UAC on the computer without Internet access with automatic updates disabled in PE. When I posted this picture, Microsoft mole called me an "uneducated lier". Now it is generally acknowledged that Windows do that at will.

Similarly the above registry hack can be ignored in future in a new OS update. You will be used as a livestock to clear the minefield (as the article say) without even knowing it. Not even mentioning Bitcoin mining on your computer - a separate issue. Give up with Windows 10, it is what we can do the best.

Erm I dont think you actually looked at my post?

Its not a block update hack, but in fact points your system to use WSUS. And trust me if Microsoft ever ignore that one they would have way more than Mr Home user to deal with.
 

vic777

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Who in this day and age Let PC's update automatically?

Seriously?????

Install WSUS point to it and approve what you want esp if you in IT, Hell with a simple reg edit you can even force Home editions to only uses WSUS. Oh and this will also block updates as well. You can even tell it not to push 1 update to 1 PC but approve the rest.

For Home and Home Single, just add contents below into a Update.reg file created with notepad and run it (Replace 127.0.0.1 with your local WSUS server.)


Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"AcceptTrustedPublisherCerts"=dword:00000001
"ElevateNonAdmins"=dword:00000001
"TargetGroup"="Workstations"
"TargetGroupEnabled"=dword:00000000
"WUServer"="http://127.0.0.1"
"WUStatusServer"="http://127.0.0.1"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"AUOptions"=dword:00000004
"AUPowerManagement"=dword:00000001
"AutoInstallMinorUpdates"=dword:00000001
"DetectionFrequency"=dword:0000000a
"DetectionFrequencyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"IncludeRecommendedUpdates"=dword:00000001
"NoAUAsDefaultShutdownOption"=dword:00000001
"NoAUShutdownOption"=dword:00000001
"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001
"NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000000
"RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:0000000a
"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RescheduleWaitTime"=dword:0000000a
"RescheduleWaitTimeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"ScheduledInstallDay"=dword:00000000
"ScheduledInstallTime"=dword:00000003
"UseWUServer"=dword:00000001


Now you can approve the updates to your hearts content. Even better if you have more than on PC you don't have to download the updates more than once.

Very interesting. Can I use WSUS for a single Windows 10 professional machine?
 

Geoff.D

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Very interesting. Can I use WSUS for a single Windows 10 professional machine?

What advantage do you see in doing this for a single machine over and above the existing facilities already available within win10 pro?
Why are you prepared to load additional sw that you now need to configure when you can simply configure that single machine anyway?

Both processes require effort to understand what needs to be done to customise the update process according to your needs.
Just look at what is already available and then augment with additional steps if necessary. Yes it takes some time initially but once done it works fine after that
 
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AlphaJohn

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Very interesting. Can I use WSUS for a single Windows 10 professional machine?

For 1 PC I would rather use WUMT as pointed out before. Does what WSUS does but without the need for Server.
 
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