Windows 11 Support Thread

[Barbarian Conan]

The Linux community has had these features for over a decade now. Tabs have also been available for terminals since like the beginning... I know that Windows 11 is apparently shipping with "Windows Terminal" which is a good alternative to the old cmd.exe I guess but it's still nowhere near the likes of terminator even gnome terminal in ubuntu.

It's also interesting that windows 11, among other features, now has rounded corners on windows. I always thought that microsoft were dead set on that squarish look since windows 8. As a matter of personal opinion I found the squared look to be 'cheap' if I could use a word to describe it.

Again rounded windows in Linux has been the default for a long time...

But those are all minor details..

Linux stole rounded corners from windows XP. In a decade or so they will switch to square windows.

 

[deesef]

Got my first blue screen after switching to my web.WhatsApp.com browser tab. Dell laptop, it, 32gb RAM, 1Tb WD black m.2, Nvidia Quadro graphics with latest driver.

VIDEO_DXGKRNL FATAL ERROR

View attachment 1296108

...and it got to 100% and sat there for 3 minutes before I force powered off

Bios possibly needs an update?

 

[Nod]

Got my first blue screen after switching to my web.WhatsApp.com browser tab. Dell laptop, it, 32gb RAM, 1Tb WD black m.2, Nvidia Quadro graphics with latest driver.

VIDEO_DXGKRNL FATAL ERROR

View attachment 1296108

...and it got to 100% and sat there for 3 minutes before I force powered off

Seems like GFX card driver problem

Redirecting

 

[HAL 9000]

Windows 11 build 22000.652 fixes long boot times, subtitles, and more - XDA​

Microsoft has released this month’s optional cumulative update for Windows 11 users, bringing along a handful of significant fixes to the experience.

The latest update brings the Windows 11 build number up to 22000.652, and it’s essentially the same update that was rolled out to Insiders in the Release Preview channel a couple of weeks ago, which was build 22000.651.

The new update is labeled as KB5012643, and you can download it manually here. While the changelog is mostly the same as build 22000.651, Microsoft does highlight a few particular fixes this time around.

Most notably, there was an issue that could have prevented the minimize, maximize, and close buttons from working on a maximized app window, and that’s been fixed.

Here’s the list of highlights:

• Updates an issue that might cause video subtitles to be partially cut off.
• Updates an issue that incorrectly aligns video subtitles.
• Displays the temperature on top of the weather icon on the taskbar.
• Updates an issue that prevents you from using the minimize, maximize, and close buttons on a maximized app window.

While it’s not mentioned by Microsoft in the highlights, Windows 11 build 22000.652 also addresses a problem where your PC might take upwards of 40 minutes to boot up, which was certainly a major problem to have in the first place. If you’ve experienced this, it shouldn’t be an issue after this update.

If you want to get these fixes right now, you can download the build 22000.652 manually using the link above or simply go to the Windows Update page in the Settings app on Windows 11.

Because the update is optional, it won’t install automatically, but you can check for updates and it will show up as an optional update that you can install right away. This should be the easiest way to do it.

If you’d rather wait, the fixes included in this update will also be rolled into next month’s patch Tuesday, when Microsoft rolls out a set of mandatory updates to all supported versions of Windows. Those should also include additional fixes or tweaks.

Windows 11 build 22000.652 fixes long boot times, subtitles, and more

Windows 11 users can now install build 22000.652, a new cumulative update that fixes issues including 40-minute boot times and more.

www.xda-developers.com

 

[Dimpie (JIGSAW)]

Installed the update last night ... all good so far.

 

[HAL 9000]

Microsoft Recommends People Uninstall Optional Windows 11 Update - Extreme Tech​

In what can only be described in technical terms as a “whoopsie,” Microsoft is advising Windows 11 users to uninstall a recent update.

Reports indicated the update, which is optional, is causing various apps to crash.

The problem involves an interaction between the update and the .Net Framework that’s part of Windows.

At this time it’s unclear which apps are affected by the issue, leaving uninstallation as the only viable solution.

Microsoft Recommends People Uninstall Optional Windows 11 Update - ExtremeTech

If you've installed this optional Windows 11 update and noticed some of your apps are crashing, now you know why.

www.extremetech.com

 

[Dimpie (JIGSAW)]

It's KB5012643 for those that don't want to click on links

 

[HAL 9000]

It's Patch Tuesday time again...

 

[CaneMan]

I had this error after the update which I fixed by re-enabling .NET Framework 3.5

 

[HAL 9000]

This evening's challenge - a friend of mine in Durban phones me, asking how does he reset the brightness / contrast on his laptop after one of his cats jumped on the keyboard & his screen is now so bright he can't read text and 'adjusting the gamma settings' in the Intel HD Video Control Panel hasn't sorted it out?

He didn't know about pressing the FN key and the appropriate function keys to adjust the brightness & contrast (which is what the cat probably did!) and didn't know about the brightness slider in the Action Center pop-out menu either... (bangs head against wall).

Attempts to use Quick Assist on his side failed, and whilst trying to install AnyDesk, an error message popped up about 'some service not being started'. When he finally managed to restart AnyDesk, my mouse cursor was not interacting - it had a 'No Entry' icon on it - so we gave up on that AFTER I managed to get him to download TeamViewer instead.

Finally got TeamViewer installed on the second attempt - as he already had the 32-bit version installed & he was trying to install the 64-bit version he had just downloaded off the web over it - which also popped up an error message telling him to uninstall it first.

When I finally connected to his laptop & opened Windows Update - lo and behold - it was still running Windows 10 version 1909 - with the 'Your Version of Windows has reached the end of service' warning and an additional message announcing the 'Feature update to Windows 10 version 2004 (10 May 2020) was on its way'... see below.



One quick download of the Windows 10 Update Assistant later, it is now currently installing Windows 10 version 21H2....

BTW - someone else had also installed 'Classic Shell' onto his laptop, so when you pressed the WIN key or clicked on Start, a Windows 7 style Start Menu appeared - and once I had uninstalled that, the deprecated version of Windows 10 that was on his laptop defaulted to the Live Tiles menu display, with a small 'All Apps' icon at the top left - that's how old it was...

He also asked me about 'upgrading to Windows 11', but I soon stopped that request dead in its tracks by informing him it was only a requirement in 2025, so he still had quite a bit of use out of Windows 10 before we face that challenge...

@ 21h34, the Windows 10 21H2 update is at 87% 'Getting things ready' - so it's going to be a long night ahead still...

The joys of online IT support...

 

[Dimpie (JIGSAW)]

When he finally managed to restart AnyDesk, my mouse cursor was not interacting - it had a 'No Entry' icon on it

that usually happens on Anydesk when your request to connect is not accepted by the remote PC (usually a popup to allow connection) .. the mouse does that after you were allowed access but then something was closed related to Anydesk ... the remote pc must re-approve the connection for the mouse to come active ... happened to me a few time already.

someone else had also installed 'Classic Shell' onto his laptop,

im a big fan of Classic Shell ... way faster to get to the stuff you need

 

[HAL 9000]

A comprehensive overview of Windows 11 22H2, the OS’s first big yearly update - Ars Technica​

A look at the most significant features coming to the OS later this year.

Windows 11 has already changed quite a bit since the version we reviewed in October was released, and Microsoft has put out a steady stream of redesigned app updates, bug fixes, and user interface improvements.

But the company's big yearly Windows updates are still important.

They're where Microsoft makes the most significant changes to Windows 11's look and feel and under-the-hood features.

This week, rumours suggested that Microsoft is wrapping up work on what will eventually be released as Windows 11 version 22H2, the OS's first yearly update.

That build, currently available to the Windows Insider Beta channel as build number 22621.1, will serve as the foundation for the next year of Windows updates.

We cover new Windows Insider builds fairly frequently, depending on how noteworthy the changes are.

But to save you the trouble of scrolling through months of articles, we've gathered together all the most significant differences between the current public build of Windows 11 21H2 (for the record, 22000.675) and the latest beta of version 22H2.

A comprehensive overview of Windows 11 22H2, the OS’s first big yearly update

A look at the most significant features coming to the OS later this year.

arstechnica.com

 

[dualmeister]

This wasn't true of the Pro editions of Windows, which would still allow you to create a local account if you didn't connect to the Internet during setup. But that ends in the 22H2 version of Windows 11, which requires a Microsoft account no matter which edition of the OS you use.

 

[airborne]

Say what!
Will they even enforce that on existing Win 11 installs?
I’m assuming that hasn’t been rolled out yet so all current Win 11 ISO installs will still allow local accounts on fresh installs?

 

[dualmeister]

Say what!
Will they even enforce that on existing Win 11 installs?

Nope.

I already battled activating Office 2021 Pro Plus on a clients PC without entering a Microsoft account the other day and now this ****.

 

[airborne]

Nope.

I already battled activating Office 2021 Pro Plus on a clients PC without entering a Microsoft account the other day and now this ****.

And if you do a fresh install using the current Win 11 iso?

 

[Dimpie (JIGSAW)]

Nope.

I already battled activating Office 2021 Pro Plus on a clients PC without entering a Microsoft account the other day and now this ****.

Installed and activated a few over the last few months, but didn't have issues with MS accounts. What problem did you pick up?

the ones I did activated the exact same way as Office2019

And if you do a fresh install using the current Win 11 iso?

Apparently the new insider build ISO already force you to log in to a MS account ....

but there is a by-pass:

Disconnect from the internet and start the install process, once you are at the login section of the setup press Shift + F10 to open the command prompt and Type: OOBE\BYPASSNRO .... PC will restart and then you can continue to setup Windows 11 Pro with a Local Account

 

[Barbarian Conan]

I went back to Windows 10.
Every now and then some apps would just take longer to load than expected, to the point where it was definitely noticeable. I was on the latest drivers and bios.

So I installed Win 10, and it was similar. I disconnected all my mechanical HDDs and the difference was huge. Even though all my apps and everything OS related except for OneDrive was on my SSD, just having the mechanical HDDs connected slowed things down considerably.

But I always had these mechanical HDDs, and it was never this slow, so I reconnected them and reverted the only thing I changed for Win 11... the TPM module. I turned that off in the bios and had the same old Windows 10 speed all the time.

In future I will try installing windows 11 and the disabling TPM afterwards and see if I can have a Windows 11 as snappy as my Windows 10 is now.

I have an original Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570 with Ryzen 5600 if anyone is interested.

 

[ArmatageShanks]

I went back to Windows 10.
Every now and then some apps would just take longer to load than expected, to the point where it was definitely noticeable. I was on the latest drivers and bios.

So I installed Win 10, and it was similar. I disconnected all my mechanical HDDs and the difference was huge. Even though all my apps and everything OS related except for OneDrive was on my SSD, just having the mechanical HDDs connected slowed things down considerably.

But I always had these mechanical HDDs, and it was never this slow, so I reconnected them and reverted the only thing I changed for Win 11... the TPM module. I turned that off in the bios and had the same old Windows 10 speed all the time.

In future I will try installing windows 11 and the disabling TPM afterwards and see if I can have a Windows 11 as snappy as my Windows 10 is now.

I have an original Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570 with Ryzen 5600 if anyone is interested.

You know

I've noticed

Windows used to optimize things for drives and their rusty mechanical slowness

Now with SSD's they just don't bother, the thing is if anything is on a mechanical drive it suffers, it also absolutely rapes the SSD for even the most tiny of tasks, like opening up a jpg, try the photo app on a mechanical hdd, its fsking atrocious.

Would be nice to put a figure on how much of your SSD's life is lost to the lack of optimization.

 

[Dimpie (JIGSAW)]

I went back to Windows 10.
Every now and then some apps would just take longer to load than expected, to the point where it was definitely noticeable. I was on the latest drivers and bios.

So I installed Win 10, and it was similar. I disconnected all my mechanical HDDs and the difference was huge. Even though all my apps and everything OS related except for OneDrive was on my SSD, just having the mechanical HDDs connected slowed things down considerably.

But I always had these mechanical HDDs, and it was never this slow, so I reconnected them and reverted the only thing I changed for Win 11... the TPM module. I turned that off in the bios and had the same old Windows 10 speed all the time.

In future I will try installing windows 11 and the disabling TPM afterwards and see if I can have a Windows 11 as snappy as my Windows 10 is now.

I have an original Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570 with Ryzen 5600 if anyone is interested.

Interesting observation.

My machine doesn't support TPM, so Im still doing the whole bypass thing, but it's definitely running faster than win10 even with an mechanical HDD attached.

If it ever comes to the point where I'll have to switch to new hardware with TPM, I will replace all drives with Nvme and hopefully not have your problem