Windows 11 unveiled - Features and release date

Thor said:
Wow can't imagine windows 10 has been around for 6 years already feels like yesterday when I upgraded from 7.
Click to expand...
Feels like yesterday when everyone was going on about Windows 8 and I upgraded to 7.
 
gregmcc said:
Guess I"ll have to boot into Windows sometime to run WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi
It doesn't run under wine :)
Click to expand...
Stupid that it doesn't even run under Windows 7.
 
I watched the whole thing


I have to admit, after watching Apple's WWDC 2 weeks ago, the Microsoft one seems like a poorly executed copy of WWDC in terms of how they made the presentation.

 
Johnatan56 said:
It's been a very long time since DX12 came out, most systems in the last ~5 years are DX12 compatible due to the APU.

Nvidia most 500 series on mobile, pretty much all 400 and 600 series and newer, that's 2012 or so and newer.
AMD the FirePro from 2014 for workstation and newer, "gaming" side think the R7 250 was the oldest/worst that supported it, unsure, pretty much anything post that supported, that's 2013. Most of their APU's had it 2014/15 as well, not sure there, those are a recycled mess.
Intel HD 630 or newer definitely had it, from 2016 onward, basically when they moved to 3 digit nomenclature, which was Skylake AFAIK (CPU 6000 series).

And then W11 will mostly just be new systems, plus W10 still has support for another 5 years, by the time forced drop happens those "youngest" systems will be 10 years old, and lots hitting 12-14.
Based on 3D stacking and other changes, I think we should probably see a nice performance increase in the next 2 years, including power consumption, just look at the last 3/4 years in regards to how much the power use has reduced in laptops. It will basically be at the point of why are you still using such an old system now, it's doubtful we will have another sandy bridge case of no real performance changes in 7/8 years.
Click to expand...
Yes, but I am curious why DX12 is the absolute minimum, and yes, I have noted WDDM v2.0, but will say DX9 still be supported because according to MS Windows 11 is build with gamers in mind touting DX12 Ultimate amongst other things like the overhauled store, and I even seen a NZXT ad which has shown Windows 11 game support. All I want to know is whether DX9 will still be supported or whether it will be moved to legacy?
 
So it looks like my trusty old Dell laptop which I bought when win8 came out and has been running flawlessly since then (I upgraded the primary drive to SSD 4 years ago) will be end it's life on win10. It was the best spec consumer laptop you could buy at the time

It runs 24/7 and has been on insider builds since that program was announced.

It doesn't have a TPM chip , but both drives Bitlocker encrypted so I have to put password on boot up. It was time to replace it anyway. However , will upgrade to win11 for insider testing until it's release as they said it will allow it but not when win11 is released

I really hope Microsoft doesn't fall to pressure and remove the TPM requirement for Windows 11 . They need to bring the entire industry forward and we need all our PCs (desktop and laptops) to have best security possible. We all should have our drives encrypted by default, etc, etc. The TPM chip with secure enclave, enables this.

My desktop PC (enterprise spec) does have a TPM chip BTW, to someone's point earlier above. That HP PC is about 2016 model
 
InternetLuddite said:
So it looks like my trusty old Dell laptop which I bought when win8 came out and has been running flawlessly since then (I upgraded the primary drive to SSD 4 years ago) will be end it's life on win10. It was the best spec consumer laptop you could buy at the time

It runs 24/7 and has been on insider builds since that program was announced.

It doesn't have a TPM chip , but both drives Bitlocker encrypted so I have to put password on boot up. It was time to replace it anyway. However , will upgrade to win11 for insider testing until it's release as they said it will allow it but not when win11 is released

I really hope Microsoft doesn't fall to pressure and remove the TPM requirement for Windows 11 . They need to bring the entire industry forward and we need all our PCs (desktop and laptops) to have best security possible. We all should have our drives encrypted by default, etc, etc. The TPM chip with secure enclave, enables this.

My desktop PC (enterprise spec) does have a TPM chip BTW, to someone's point earlier above. That HP PC is about 2016 model
Click to expand...

As long as we can send all the users to you that don't have their encryption keys
 
2 year old Laptop:
i7 8700
16 Gig RAM
Nvidia 1060 6 Gig
500 Gig SSD
1080p LCD + 1440p External Display

1624599129281.png

The fak size beast they want?
 
Polymathic said:
No Windows 11 for me
Click to expand...

Ditto.

Struck out on my 2 year old laptop and as per:
Solitude said:
docs.microsoft.com

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors

This specification details the Intel processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.
docs.microsoft.com
Click to expand...
I have nothing that can run Windows 11. Not my i5 Media PC (i5 6400) or my gaming PC (i5 7500)

So guess I'll wait till current chip shortages get sorted before I see what the fuss is about :D
 
AlphaJohn said:
Ditto.

Struck out on my 2 year old laptop and as per:

I have nothing that can run Windows 11. Not my i5 Media PC (i5 6400) or my gaming PC (i5 7500)

So guess I'll wait till current chip shortages get sorted before I see what the fuss is about :D
Click to expand...
I'm glad that I've putting of upgrading my laptop for the last 2.5 years.
 
The Microsoft system requirements are incredibly dumb. The compatibility checker doesn't take the nuance of the actual requirements into account:

docs.microsoft.com

Compatibility for Windows 11- Compatibility Cookbook

Learn how to enable your apps are compatible for Windows 11
docs.microsoft.com

Forget the list of supported processors for the moment. Here are the real requirements:

Hard Floor:
  • CPU: Core >= 2 and Speed >= 1 GHz
  • System Memory: TotalPhysicalRam >= 4 GB
  • Storage: 64 GB
  • Security: TPM Version >= 1.2 and SecureBootCapable = True
  • Smode: Smode is false, or Smode is true and C_ossku in (0x65, 0x64, 0x63, 0x6D, 0x6F, 0x73, 0x74, 0x71)
Soft Floor:
  • Security: TPMVersion >= 2.0
  • CPU Generation
Click to expand...

You're supposed to read this as follows:

If the device in question has a TPM chip or firmware support that conforms to a specification older than TPM 2.0, then it'll throw up a message that an upgrade is possible, but not advised UPON INSTALLATION OR AN UPGRADE. This only happens if your device meets the soft floor requirements. The compatibility checker is only verifying if devices are meeting the hard floor or not.

If the device meets all the hard floor requirements, then an upgrade is recommended.

If you meet almost all of the hard floor requirements, but one of those things is not configured (like enabling fTPM for AMD or PTT for Intel in BIOS) then it will fail in the same way, but IT WON'T TELL YOU WHY.

The compatibility checker is almost pointless.
 
It just seems kind of crazy that most people won't be able to upgrade to Windows 11.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X