Windows 7 a Linux killer?

Now a small application that you'd install on your computer or mobile phone doesn't require large scale implementation, or training and support, or additional custom software development. So what sort of business model would you suggest we use?

Well, you see, that is the billion dollar question.

Answer is we don't know, yet. But companies that produce IP will have start to figuring that one out and fast.
 
Help my xbox games won't run on my PS3! I'm a retard!

Yup you are retard then because that would not work, but if someone told you it might and you did not know any better you may actually try it.

I have heard many linux ppl tell you can game fine on linux with wine etc, yet this is not the case. So who is the retard? The linux guys saying games work on linux or the guy thinking the linux fanboi's who say games work are correct?

So chis what your saying is linux cannot run any windows games, which i assumed it would more than likely not be able to, maybe you can get a few opengl games to run well but the latest games will never run, you can also not run any major windows application for business use either. So basically linux is good for basic work like word processing, email and internet :). Yep now that i know trying to get windows games working on linux is like trying to get xbox games to run ona ps3 i will format my ubuntu drive as its not even worth trying to get them to work because as you pointed out windows games won't ever run on linux :)
 
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On the topic of netbooks, they are moving towards ARM processors which are much more efficient than x86. So far the only desktop-ish OSes that run on ARM are linux based. So good luck with that M$.
 
On the topic of netbooks, they are moving towards ARM processors which are much more efficient than x86. So far the only desktop-ish OSes that run on ARM are linux based. So good luck with that M$.

Very good point. I was also going to mention that. And here's another related Slashdot article about it:

Ubuntu Mobile Looks At Qt As GNOME Alternative

Derwent sends along a Computerworld piece which begins: "The Ubuntu Mobile operating system is undergoing its most radical change with a port to the ARM processor for Internet devices and netbooks, and may use Nokia's LGPL Qt development environment as an alternative to GNOME. During a presentation at this year's linux.conf.au conference, Canonical's David Mandala said Ubuntu Mobile has changed a lot over the past year... 'I worked on ARM devices for many years so a full Linux distribution on ARM is exciting,' Mandala said, adding one of the biggest challenges is reminding developers to write applications for 800 by 600 screen resolutions found in smaller devices. 'The standard [resolution] for GNOME [apps] is 800 by 600, but not all apps are. For this reason Ubuntu Mobile uses the GNOME Mobile (Hildon framework) instead of a full GNOME desktop, but since Nokia open sourced Qt under the LGPL it may consider this as an alternative.'"

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/20/211251&from=rss
 
Another thing about PCs going ARM is that Symbian will finally have a chance to escape from the handset realm.

With all the effort companies like Nokia is putting into Symbian this could be an interesting OS to watch. Sure Series60 still needs lots of work, the 5800 proved that you need more than a year to adapt Series60 to new UIs like touch, but it remains an exceptional platform and if you look at the small footprint it has then Symbian can make waves for the big players - should it make it into netbooks.
 
Yup you are retard then because that would not work, but if someone told you it might and you did not know any better you may actually try it.

I have heard many linux ppl tell you can game fine on linux with wine etc, yet this is not the case. So who is the retard? The linux guys saying games work on linux or the guy thinking the linux fanboi's who say games work are correct?

So chis what your saying is linux cannot run any windows games, which i assumed it would more than likely not be able to, maybe you can get a few opengl games to run well but the latest games will never run, you can also not run any major windows application for business use either. So basically linux is good for basic work like word processing, email and internet :). Yep now that i know trying to get windows games working on linux is like trying to get xbox games to run ona ps3 i will format my ubuntu drive as its not even worth trying to get them to work because as you pointed out windows games won't ever run on linux :)

So what were you trying to achieve?
You have slammed linux without ever having a real need for it, and therefore not actually using it for anything.
 
It's Vista with a taskbar change and the opportunity to disable services... If you didn’t like Vista you not going to like Win 7.
 
So basically linux is good for basic work like word processing, email and internet :).

No, linux is good for running linux apps. Linux fulfills all of my needs for work as a web developer. I have never gamed on windows, I don't game on linux so for me that is a moot point.

The point is that you are dependent on various windows apps to do your work (and to game). You have a couple of options:
  • Learn the equivalent linux apps (which may or may not meet your needs)
  • Stick to Windows
  • Try to run the apps you want in some kind of a hack (I have run CS3 in a VM on linux with no difference in speed/usability that I could notice)
Choose what works best for you.

But to conclude that linux is only good for basic work because it won't run apps not designed for it is, frankly, retarded.
 
Operating systems were originally designed simply to allow more than one program ("job") to run, and then the abstraction of hardware (i.e. drivers) happened later. Any modern OS is now fairly accomplished at those tasks - so it's in fact arguable that the average user has no reason for a new OS, as such.

Things started blurring when people started associating the user interface with the OS itself. There's no reason why the UI couldn't be 100% decoupled from the kernel/OS. The first thing that games do when they load is provide their own UI.

Now, the OS is used as Microsoft's (or Apple etc) vehicle to push any API or technology they're betting on. e.g. the current "Web Services" buzzword, or .NET, DRM, multi-touch support, etc. I think MS may be betting the farm on web services, but who knows. There's no technical reason why a 3rd party developer shouldn't be providing e.g. a multi-touch interface.

MS/Apple/etc make sure that any new technology is so tightly coupled to the OS and kernel that they get to keep a foot in the door. This refusal to support a modular design is also one reason why modern software ends up being so bloated.

I far prefer the control afforded by an open-source OS, in that one needn't swallow whatever is being pushed by the OS vendor at the time. Unfortunately, most users don't know and don't care (but they do care about overcomplicated, bloated software and pricing...).

In the background, we have the Google rehash of the thin client solution keeping everybody on their toes.
 
Nothing will kill linux because mostly its people who hate microsoft that use it and that will never change, what windows 7 may do is stop new people from turning to linux because the general consensus will be that microsoft have released something great.

couldn't be more wrong
 
I like linux and will continue using it, but windows 7 will most definately end up in a dual boot with it for gaming and certain applications that are windows specific.

Hell I will never leave linux considering I admin linux servers for a living!
 
I must also complement the interface as well.....not including the xtras!
however I wonder, is the security that tight

Always been a big drawcard of linux. How W7 can fix it.

Windoze7 is good but it won't kill anything,except your wallet. and yes it's faster than vista

Lol, well im thinking I might "test" a copy first to make sure it is worth buying :p:D
 
I think ubuntu is fast closing the gap on windows rgarding ease of use for the average, non-technically minded, person. As this gap keeps closing the case for wider adoption of linux will only grow.

Windows 7 may fix many of vista's problems, but is it really going to change the average user's experience in any significant way, even over xp? I think as far as the average user goes we've reached a plato in operating systems. I think the openoffice ms office battle is possibly the more important one. Once open office is as good as ms office , there would be hardly any case for any business to buy windows.
 
I think ubuntu is fast closing the gap on windows rgarding ease of use for the average, non-technically minded, person.
So does that mean people who use MS systems are not technically minded?

I can point out a few people on these forums alone who know a million times more . . . TECHNICALLY . . . than your "Average-I-think-I'm-cool" because I run linux
 
O'Rly? Well, judging by the latest dealer pricelists, Windows Vista Ultimate DSP 64-bit is around the R2000 mark. Way too much to pay everytime you upgrade your motherboard!

Come on, do you really pay for your copy of Windows at home? Just like you own every CD of every MP3 that you have?
 
Unless Linux comes pre-installed on PC's, it will never become the dominant operating system. People are terrified of using any other other operating system but a Microsoft one - Windows is a brand. Also, although Ubuntu in itself is a great operating system, as long as the software/hardware companies don't write software/drivers for it, it will never really take off.

It also needs to be more user-friendly, because currently Ubuntu caters for the more technically-minded people.
 
Come on, do you really pay for your copy of Windows at home? Just like you own every CD of every MP3 that you have?

As long as you have an original copy somewhere in your closet, it's legal to have a "Custom Copied" version on your PC...
 
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