Kloofvreter
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Price is no factor. You can buy a PC with Linux, save money and reformat it and install your pirated version of Windows anyway. So price is not a factor.
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Price is no factor. You can buy a PC with Linux, save money and reformat it and install your pirated version of Windows anyway. So price is not a factor.
Kalvaer
Expert Member
AAAHHH now I understand why its more secure.. because you cant automate anything and have to type in everything yourself, so end up spending 5x more time getting a job done
It also now makes sense why it has to boot quicker, because your need more time to do anything else
/ducks and runs away
Kalvaer
Expert Member
LOL I'm beginning to wonder if I am the only one here who has all my licenses paid for
Rouxenator
Dank meme lord
It is what [-]paranoid people[/-] advanced geeks do.
Plus it makes them look [-]insecure[/-] very clever.
Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
Nobody ever said that you have to use cheap hardware with Linux, or that it was the point of using Linux. So I really don't the point you're trying to make. Depending on a scenario, Linux could not work for you, just like Windows might not work for you in a different scenario. If you design a system, you normally have a application, or set of applications in mind, and this will determine the OS you are going to use, not the cost of the hardware.
Kalvaer
Expert Member
Agreed,
What I was on about with the cost of the HW, was how everyone kept on stating that since Linux was free it was better since you saved money, Which is not the case if you have to spend more money on HW to get the same job done as in the example above with having to buy an additional graphics card, in order to get the OS to work
Well the OS will work with whichever card you have. That specific feature / eye-candy (compiz) might not though. So it really is not a case of the whole being useless because of the gfx card.
saa044
Expert Member
Ubuntu
I've got Ubuntu on my Sahara laptop, runs a Ati M200, so basically a crappy gfx card. Compiz works flawlessly on it, no problem. And for the windows users that complains abt not being able to run certain apps or games on a linux distro, it is Linux, not designed to play windows games or run windows applications, it is designed to be a virus free distro, for ppl who watch video's, play mp3's work etc....
I've got Ubuntu on my Sahara laptop, runs a Ati M200, so basically a crappy gfx card. Compiz works flawlessly on it, no problem. And for the windows users that complains abt not being able to run certain apps or games on a linux distro, it is Linux, not designed to play windows games or run windows applications, it is designed to be a virus free distro, for ppl who watch video's, play mp3's work etc....
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Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
^^Pity :/
Because when I get home I hate to stare at a pretty desktop all day but with nothing else I can do
except kick the speakers that aren't working because of the choppy 5.1 setup
Because when I get home I hate to stare at a pretty desktop all day but with nothing else I can do
except kick the speakers that aren't working because of the choppy 5.1 setup Kloofvreter
Honorary Master
That is why it won't replace Windows anytime soon (or any time for that matter), and it won't remain virus-free forever.
saa044
Expert Member
^^Pity :/
Because when I get home I hate to stare at a pretty desktop all day but with nothing else I can do
Haha I get what you're saying, I suppose it depends what you would use Linux for in the end, for some ppl they might just use it on their laptop like me, because I only work with e-mail and openoffice, and the odd download manager. But in the end you can not compare for instance windows xp to Ubuntu, they were designed for different purposes in mind for instance Windows Xp was designed to do it all, Ubuntu in my opinion was designed to function as a stable distro to do work related tasks on it. I can unfortunately not give more comment on Ubuntu as I am only using it for one week now, I can say I am very impressed. It is a lot more stable than windows Vista in my opinion, but then again anything is more stable and faster than windows vista.
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Haha I get what you're saying, I suppose it depends what you would use Linux for in the end, for some ppl they might just use it on their laptop like me, because I only work with e-mail and openoffice, and the odd download manager. But in the end you can not compare for instance windows xp to Ubuntu, they were designed for different purposes in mind for instance Windows Xp was designed to do it all, Ubuntu in my opinion was designed to function as a stable distro to do work related tasks on it. I can unfortunately not give more comment on Ubuntu as I am only using it for one week now, I can say I am very impressed. It is a lot more stable than windows Vista in my opinion, but then again anything is more stable and faster than windows vista.
Linux was also designed to game. The fact that there are few OpenGL based games doesn't mean it is not perfectly capable of doing so. Take Doom III for instance. That works perfectly well.
But yes if your focus is gaming, then clearly Linux is not for you as the game makers don't cater for it.
Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
Which to be honest is an atrocity...a pity beyond measure.
I really wish those guys working on WINE get it right someday if OpenGL keeps being neglected.saa044
Expert Member
Yeah I saw that Cedega 7 is out now, apparently works good with a couple of direct x games. But that being said, as I understand it OpenGl games like DoomIII for instance or any other game designed for Windows that works great on Linux is a added bonus, but they were designed to play on windows pc's, so ppl trying to get a certain windows product to work on Linux and they cant get it to work should not blame Ubuntu for that, as it still is a windows application/Game. So if you can not part from you windows applications or find a alternative in the Ubunte library then just stick with windows.
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d0b33
Honorary Master
I have a few applications that I double click and it will install itself, no need for console.
Kalvaer
Expert Member
Few things from me tonight on Win7.
1stly, the hibernation mode. I have not run this in years as it always crashed. I got home today and saw my PC was off, it never is. So I turned it on, Windows loaded in about 5 seconds flat and I realised something was wrong. Checked up on the hibernation and set it very low and waited. 6 min later, HDD, monitor, Fans and even my LED lights all shut down. Hit the power button and 5 seconds later my desktop was back to where it was.
Then about 2 hours ago, I dragged my Telescope out and tried to take some photo's with my wifes camera. Finally packed everything up and brought it back and realised I never had any drivers installed. Decided to plug the camera in anyway, and it activated, and installed the drivers before I could even sit down and asked if I wanted to download the photo's. No need for CD's or anything else as I needed 4 weeks ago with XP.
So far, its another plus for me. Only downside is I did have to install software to to view the RAW images off the camera
1stly, the hibernation mode. I have not run this in years as it always crashed. I got home today and saw my PC was off, it never is. So I turned it on, Windows loaded in about 5 seconds flat and I realised something was wrong. Checked up on the hibernation and set it very low and waited. 6 min later, HDD, monitor, Fans and even my LED lights all shut down. Hit the power button and 5 seconds later my desktop was back to where it was.
Then about 2 hours ago, I dragged my Telescope out and tried to take some photo's with my wifes camera. Finally packed everything up and brought it back and realised I never had any drivers installed. Decided to plug the camera in anyway, and it activated, and installed the drivers before I could even sit down and asked if I wanted to download the photo's. No need for CD's or anything else as I needed 4 weeks ago with XP.
So far, its another plus for me. Only downside is I did have to install software to to view the RAW images off the camera
smokey
Honorary Master
What utter claptrap.
Linux can be made easier to use without killing its DIY functionality. Actually... in this world of ours - most people (IE: not you) prefer to let others sort out their tech problems instead of actually figuring it out by themselves. It's because they have non-tech related jobs or just couldnt be bothered because they actually like sunshine. It doesnt mean that theyu shoudl be excluded by the fact that Linux requires most installs to be done ina totally absurd way.
I use Linux because Windows provides far too many distractions during work time. Colonization, Footy Manager etc. However, I know a ton of people who won't use Linux for work only because its too much hassle to get it running. However, I don;t run around and critise people for choosing the easy route. That seems to be squarely in your court...
Kalvaer
Expert Member
Baking powder?