Submolecule
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P0is3nIvy
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Remember Vista/se7en gives you performance rating based on the lowest rating, usually this is pulled down by the GPU. So if you have a crap GPU then you'll have a crap rating.
I have a Nvidia Quadro NVS135 integrated chipset on my notebook and se7en gives my PC a rating of 3.2 out of a possible 7.9
i have a few questions that maybe you guys can help me with.
1st: how easy will it be to install. can i just pop the disc in and install it?( running xp atm)or will i first haveto uninstall windows and reformat my pc etc?
2nd: i'm running all my programs and xp on 32 bit xp. if i want windows 7 64but i heard i'd haveto uninstall all my programs and games then reinstall. true?
3rd: does 64 bit require more system requirements then 32 bit?
4th: does 64 bit give you a better performance?
thank you guys
1st: how easy will it be to install. can i just pop the disc in and install it?( running xp atm)or will i first haveto uninstall windows and reformat my pc etc?
2nd: i'm running all my programs and xp on 32 bit xp. if i want windows 7 64but i heard i'd haveto uninstall all my programs and games then reinstall. true?
3rd: does 64 bit require more system requirements then 32 bit?
4th: does 64 bit give you a better performance?
thank you guys
LazyLion
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It is STRONGLY recommended that you reformat and re-install from scratch. Don't listen to the guys who tell you that is not necessary. You will regret it later.
You can reload all your programs after that.
Yes, the system requirements are slightly higher, but it runs very nicely.
alloytoo
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I adjusted my partitions to retain my xp installation and installed Win7 fresh.
Impressive, Premium RC runs faster than Vista Home Basic ever did, looks slick, seems stable.
Thats on my 1.86 Celeron Laptop with 1 GB (will upgrade the memory though, I want to get the 64Bit version)
Impressive, Premium RC runs faster than Vista Home Basic ever did, looks slick, seems stable.
Thats on my 1.86 Celeron Laptop with 1 GB (will upgrade the memory though, I want to get the 64Bit version)
DJNgoma
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Waiting for peterCH's verdict!
+1, but nobody likes a troll...
You could buy another hdd and dual-boot. Then you can switch between your old setup and new, by choosing either at boot time - incase you need to go back to use something you would've lost with reformatting.
I've done that with my current setup (XP and Win7 RC1).
ZombiePriest
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I installed a trial version of Windows 7 64 bit on a clean system, so I can't help with the XP atm scenario. The install took about 40 minutes and it nearly brought tears of joy to my eyes. Truly, a great install. Almost as awesome as the first time I installed Fedora.
My Windows 7 64 bit installs the 32-bit applications in a separate folder. I'm guessing you want to upgrade directly to Windows 7 64-bit. I'm afraid I can't help you there, but I have experienced a bit of difficulty with running some (actually only 2) 32-bit applications on Windows 7 64-bit.
Most 32-bit applications, however, run very smoothly provided that they install in the separate Program Files (x86) or something to that effect folder.
Technically yes, no, maybe. A 64-bit system does not require more system requirements, but you won't notice any drastic performance improvements if:
1) You are running 32-bit applications on a 64-bit system.
2) You do not have more than 4 GB of RAM.
This because 64-bit applications have to be compiled in - you guessed it - 64-bit versions to reap the benefits of a 64-bit system. Contrary to popular belief, you do not need at least 4 GB of RAM to run 64-bit applications, but since you can address more than the maximum 4 GB of RAM that you can directly access on a 32-bit system, it is really desirable to have 4 GB of RAM instead.
I get the feeling you want to upgrade from a 32-bit system with 32-bit applications to a 64-bit operating system. Hardware isn't really my thing (so anyone feel free to jump in and correct me), but I don't think you will be able to utilise a 64-bit system to its full capacity in this way.
I did not have a 32-bit OS on this system before, so I'm afraid I can't really compare it for you. However, if you are using a setup as described above, the performance should be better. You will of course have a more noticable performance improvement if you had 64-bit compiled versions running on enough RAM than by merely running 32-bit compiled programs on a 64-bit system.
Like they said in the article you should use their data settings transfer utility. "Windows Easy Transfer" Tool.
yes, sorry... but make sure your favourite games have a 64-bit installer..
64-bit runs different code, sort of, the main reason why you'd want 64-bit is because you can address more memory. You see 32-bit can only address 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 or 4GB of memory and since windows occupies some of that it means if you have 4GB of RAM you only get 3.5GB usable RAM depending on your setup and if you're lucky, more like 3GB.
Whereas 64-bit means 2^64 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 or 18,446,744,073GB of memory. Which is usually referred to as 16 exabytes. Not sure if we've reached that amount of RAM on the planet yet.
On the question of better performance, that depends on the programmer/compiler of the application you want to run.
So to answer the real question if the app you want doesn't have a 64-bit equivalent then run it in the virtual XP compatibility mode and if that doesn't work then install a good Virtual Machine like VMware and run a full XP in the VM.
Anybody know when our e-tailers will start offering pre order options?? The us and uk shops have been offering pre orders for months now but I still see no win 7 pre order options, only the buy vista and get a win 7 voucher( not interested in that I already have vista retail).
I'm wondering this too... want to buy a new laptop, and have decided to wait for win7 (although I'm tempted every 5 minutes to just get the vista + free upgrade version)
killadoob
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Laptops may take sometime i reckon maybe dec.
I installed it on a VM and took about the same time, VM with 2 cores and 800MB RAM ran like a dream.
Interesting and good to know, thanks.
Actually my Windows7-64bit VM runs very nicely with 1GB of RAM. More RAM is only needed if you're running lots of applications at the same time or if you have an application that is a resource hog, like Firefox with 150 Tabs open at the same time
You're right it's not a great idea to run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit OS, you'll probably get a performance hit. But if you're going from a 32-bit system and you want to go to a 64-bit OS make sure that your CPU is 64-bit. It's a problem on the older systems that aren't 64-bit native. Basically everything prior to the Intel Core generation or AMD 64. So if you've got a modern CPU then you're ok. And like I said before run critical XP apps in a Virtual Machine, it works really well and saves you a whole lot of hassles. VMware server is free, Xen desktop is free. Or use the built in Virtual XP for Win7.
Not always if an application was programmed using explicit types in the code like __int32 then no matter the compiler, the app is still 32-bit limited internally, you'll see this in benchmarks. So the app will not be able to use the 64-bit data registers or wider ALUs in the CPU. Sorry tech speak, but what it boils down to is that if the programmer did a poor job then usually the app doesn't have a huge speed improvement when recompiled from 32-bit to 64-bit. But I think that most software vendors will start releasing 64-bit ported/optimised code from now on as more and more people switch from WinXP 32-bit to Win7 64-bit. I'm looking forward to installing Win7 on my Quad core... I think I'm bored with XP.
alt21
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From suppliers you can get OEM version of Vista with the upgrade voucher thing but as far as I know Microsoft said any copy of XP / Vista purchased after a certain date qualifies for a 7 upgrade 2 an equivalent version.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/upgrade.aspx
Ok after reading that it seems its only available from some manufacturers. If you are going to buy a new PC before the Windows 7 release date just make sure with your supplier that you qualify for Windows 7 upgrade.
Not looking to buy a new pc or laptop. I just want to know when our local e-tailers will start offering the retail packages of win 7 for preorder.
Rouxenator
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I have been running 7 Enterprise since it came out and it almost identical to RC. Only thing is RC will stop working next year around May and I think it has slower swapping routines.
But based on my experience with the final product (Enterprise) I am confident 7 will be the next XP. Especially taking into account the 64bit versions that makes it possible to upgrade to 8GB RAM.
But based on my experience with the final product (Enterprise) I am confident 7 will be the next XP. Especially taking into account the 64bit versions that makes it possible to upgrade to 8GB RAM.
