Windows 7 pre-lease discounts

AnonZA

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All over the world there have been pre-release discounts for Windows 7. These have actually been for several months in many countries. Yet in South Africa we have only in the last week been able to order from local suppliers - and their prices offer no discounts at all.

I've been looking at Windows 7 Home Premium (full edition, not the upgrade), since that's what I'm going for. Here's the local pricing:

Zaps: R1102 - This is DSP; the retail price is R1381
Landmark: R1102.38 - This is DSP; the retail price is R1393.08
Kalahari.net: R1378.95
Take 2: R1290
Prophecy: R1443.86

Microsoft's price: UK - ÂŁ149.99 (R1813.57); US - $199.99 (R1477.36)

(If you go to the Microsoft SA site and follow the trail to order Windows 7, you'll get the UK price. There's no obvious trail to follow though - the front of the SA site doesn't mention Windows 7, only Vista.)

The pre-order specials overseas that I've seen range from as low as ÂŁ40 to ÂŁ70 (R500 to R850). Amazon UK was selling it for about ÂŁ64 (the price has since gone up). And these offers have been around for several months. (The initial offer may have been as low as $50 [R370], though I never saw any such offer.)

I decided to get in touch with Microsoft to ask about this. A representative of the Response Management team phoned me today. He started off by saying that Microsoft doesn't sell directly to the public and that it's up to retailers to promote sales. My response was: retailers evidently haven't received any discounted versions because they definitely would have been pushing them. The conversation became rather convoluted after that, but a few things were mentioned.

Microsoft SA has to choose to take part in a promotion. Surely they would take part in this one, since it leads to Windows being adopted by more people? No direct answer; rather I was told that South Africa operates differently to other regions. He offered two examples: (1) you can upgrade to Windows 7 if you buy a new machine with Vista on it; (2) at one point there was an offer for students where you could get Office for $50, but it wasn't available in SA and your only chance to get it was to organise for someone overseas to get it for you (yes, this is what he mentioned to me).

I think that not offering discounts to South Africa is unacceptable for three reasons:

(1) Microsoft often complains about piracy in places like South Africa. Cutting the price is a method to encourage legitimate purchases - they've done this in China before (for XP and Vista). This was a perfect opportunity to encourage legitimacy in SA. And it would have gone far further because people are so positive about Windows 7.

(2) Why should South Africa be treated differently to (most of) the rest of the world?

(3) South Africa is a third world country; don't we need discounts more than the first world countries who are receiving them?

Personally, I believe Microsoft is doing something that South African businesses like to do: charge as much as possible because they can.

To anyone who might suggest buying overseas: (1) it's largely too late now; (2) it's difficult because most overseas stores won't ship to SA and many won't ship to anywhere other than the credit card's billing address; and (3) why should I have to?

Does anyone else feel irritated by this?
 
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I feel windows 7 will get much the same response from the market as Vista did.

W7 is better but if they cant drop the price and with a second slump on the way they will not do well.

Thank god for piracy.
 
It also irritates me that we never get a break in SA - we are always screwed over, no matter what the rest of the world is doing - pay, pay and pay some more!

I got an e-mail from NGR Computers (have no idea who they are) and they have W7 pre-order pricing as follows:
Starter: R399.99
Home Basic: R789.99
Home Premium:R989.99
Professional: R1389.99
Ultimate: R1789.99

Link
 
It also irritates me that we never get a break in SA - we are always screwed over, no matter what the rest of the world is doing - pay, pay and pay some more!

I got an e-mail from NGR Computers (have no idea who they are) and they have W7 pre-order pricing as follows:
Starter: R399.99
Home Basic: R789.99
Home Premium:R989.99
Professional: R1389.99
Ultimate: R1789.99

Link
those are DSP versions, not retail. almost got excited :D
 
Discount or no discount, I feel R1200’ish for the full retail of home premium is a pretty awesome price point.
 
Its shocking that MS SA doesn't offer any preorder specials in SA, I think the retail versions of Windows 7 are over priced. They should have had preorder specials for 2 reasons, 1) to promote Window 7, considering that Vista scared many ppl off and 2) to get those users that are pirating Windows to hopefully purchase a legit copy at a decent prize.

Go Microsoft!
 
I have a question - if anyone can answer.

If I purchase a copy of Win 7 will I be able to install it on more than one machine or is it limited to one copy, one PC.

I'm not going to buy seperate copies for my PC and laptop - since I'll most likely be going for the Win 7 Professional at least - it's a tad pricey.

[EDIT] Scratch that ... I'll need ultimate, since I need foreign language support :/
 
It also irritates me that we never get a break in SA - we are always screwed over, no matter what the rest of the world is doing - pay, pay and pay some more!

I got an e-mail from NGR Computers (have no idea who they are) and they have W7 pre-order pricing as follows:
Starter: R399.99
Home Basic: R789.99
Home Premium:R989.99
Professional: R1389.99
Ultimate: R1789.99

Link

I've ordered professional from them, not sure how they got their prices better than PC zone's, PC zone is almost always cheaper on their specials....

What I find odd though, is that no-one ive contacted can give me ultimate, and no-one can give me a date as to when it will arrive. The official worldwide release is tomorrow, and no stock. Typical to SA, now thats shocking!!
 
What I find odd though, is that no-one ive contacted can give me ultimate, and no-one can give me a date as to when it will arrive. The official worldwide release is tomorrow, and no stock. Typical to SA, now thats shocking!!

I'm also waiting for Ultimate - I may give it another week and see if it's available.

**maybe we're really lucky and their just hiding the stock for tomorrow's release... :D :p
 
There is a mix of DSP and retail prices you have there ... the retail boxes come with both 32bit and 64 bit versions, the DSP is one or the other .. and what i dont like about DSP is the fact that if i upgrade my entire PC, m/b and everything else, i need to buy another copy of windows, sucks!

so is Take2 the best priced for retail edition for windows 7? looking at the home premium ...

Rectron and Esquire only do DSP ...
 
I have a question - if anyone can answer.

If I purchase a copy of Win 7 will I be able to install it on more than one machine or is it limited to one copy, one PC.

I'm not going to buy seperate copies for my PC and laptop - since I'll most likely be going for the Win 7 Professional at least - it's a tad pricey.

[EDIT] Scratch that ... I'll need ultimate, since I need foreign language support :/

Retail edition is one copy per machine. There is a family pack offering of 3 licenses of home premium for a relative cheap price but I haven't seen it in SA.
 
I have just come of the phone with Microsoft and i am quite dumbstruck that the windows home family pack edition of windows 7 home where you get to install it on three computers and is only slightly more expensive than ordinary home addition, will not be available in South Africa. I have three computers in the house and was told by Microsoft that i have to buy a copy for each computer. I find this totally unacceptable that the rich countries like Europe and America are given this option but not making it available to us poorer countries.
 
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There is a mix of DSP and retail prices you have there ... the retail boxes come with both 32bit and 64 bit versions, the DSP is one or the other .. and what i dont like about DSP is the fact that if i upgrade my entire PC, m/b and everything else, i need to buy another copy of windows, sucks!

so is Take2 the best priced for retail edition for windows 7? looking at the home premium ...

Rectron and Esquire only do DSP ...

I forgot to mention that i also asked about the retail box with both the 32bit and 64 bit version included and was also told that that would also not be available
here. So either the Microsoft help desk is not well informed or that the versions with both the 32 and 64 bit are imported directly by the sellers.
 
I forgot to mention that i also asked about the retail box with both the 32bit and 64 bit version included and was also told that that would also not be available
here. So either the Microsoft help desk is not well informed or that the versions with both the 32 and 64 bit are imported directly by the sellers.

Either all the SA etailers aren't well informed or the microsoft help desk is full of bs. Zaps,Pczone,take two,kalahari and prophecy are all advertising the retail copy containing both 32 bit and 64 bit disc, dsp's you have to pick between the two but the others are suppose to have both. We will see tomorrow.
 
Either all the SA etailers aren't well informed or the microsoft help desk is full of bs. Zaps,Pczone,take two,kalahari and prophecy are all advertising the retail copy containing both 32 bit and 64 bit disc, dsp's you have to pick between the two but the others are suppose to have both. We will see tomorrow.

What about the free upgrade when buying hardware with Vista - do you get the 32 & 64 bit editions?
 
I've purchased Windows 7 Home Premium from pcworld.co.uk and I'm getting a mate to bring it back from the UK for me. Only R840. :D

Down with Microsoft SA!
 
adamr: You're right, though only for Zaps and Landmark. I've updated their prices - retail is more expensive, of course.

jphegers: And here I thought I couldn't be irritated any further. This is exactly my point: they're making no effort to bring good pricing to SA, a country that needs it more than the overseas countries.
 
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