Windows 8 Consumer Preview

wily me said:
THAT LINKS MUST BE WRONG OR SPAM? :confused:
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Oh crap, wrong paste memory, fixed.

Linux has 2 buffers to copy text, one where you press crtl+c crtl+v and another that you just highlight the text and mouse middle click over another area where you want to paste the highlighted text, I just mixed the two up without checking, sorry

Edit: Good thing I wasn't doing something odd, oh and that is a good series to watch anyway ;)
 
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wily me said:
Obviously he knows nothing about Windows8 :)
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Well if you notice what he was capable of doing(Getting metro to run inside a frame on the desktop), I am willing to bet he knows tons more than you do about Windows 8.

He just pointed out how a end user will approach it, and he is very much spot on.
 
Elimentals said:
He just pointed out how a end user will approach it, and he is very much spot on.
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True, but he did come across as a bit uninformed. The latter half of the video he went on about how its difficult to find (desktop) programs to pin to the taskbar.

While its not self evident at first , its actually quite easy once you understand where everything resides. To pin your favorite programs to the taskbar …

In Start right-click, then click on 'All apps'
To the right of the (Metro) apps, you'll find all installed programs arranged in program groups, just like in the previous Start menu
Right-click on desired program, and select 'Pin to taskbar'
Repeat for each program you want pinned to taskbar
 
Windows Update just downloaded new Nvidia drivers, 150MB... CUDA and PhysX now functional again.

Yay!
 
kilobits said:
Windows Update just downloaded new Nvidia drivers, 150MB... CUDA and PhysX now functional again.

Yay!
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What version? I manually downloaded from NVidia's site at time of installation, which were 295.73 (64bit)
 
Elimentals said:
Well if you notice what he was capable of doing(Getting metro to run inside a frame on the desktop), I am willing to bet he knows tons more than you do about Windows 8.

He just pointed out how a end user will approach it, and he is very much spot on.
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You missed my tongue in cheek comment? I know it was done deliberately, obviously to promote his software. I was not really born under a stone hey :D
 
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Roman4604 said:
What version? I manually downloaded from NVidia's site at time of installation, which were 295.73 (64bit)
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Hey Hey

Those 295.73 drivers were the same I was using... mine now are 296.17.

I received a Windows Update alert that there were updates and down it came.

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Now all that needs to be fixed is the WiFi going AWOL after a suspend / hibernate.
 
Not really played much with Windows 8, how easy is to use the Metro UI with a mouse compared to touch on a tablet? For me I just get the feeling its mainly built best for tablet use rather than desktop.
 
diegoa said:
For me I just get the feeling its mainly built best for tablet use rather than desktop.
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Personally for me I think it works pretty well with a mouse (that has scroll wheel). Laptop touchpad is a different story.

There is however a caveat, you need to spend the time (googling) to understand how the new combined Metro/Desktop UI works, and where everything is. Failing to do so will most likely lead to some frustration as its not that intuitive initially if you're used to the previous Start menu/desktop way of doing things.
 
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Zyzzyva said:
stardock ceo:

[video=youtube;efqpryu5SRI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=efqpryu5SRI[/video]
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I think this guy has some really valid points. His point on the inconsistencies between Metro apps and regular apps is valid. I agree that for desktop use, running Metro apps is really not ideal. I think for a lot of users that are used to the Windows way of doing things this isn't going to go down well - if you take in to consideration that Windows has basically had the same workflow since Windows 95 and now suddenly you are taking their start menu away :/

I really think they should have a legacy desktop option for people who don't want to learn a new interface and that this should be out of the box option and be a visible icon in Metro.

I'm sorry Microsoft, but you don't get my vote on this one. They have made a really great interface for tablets/mobile devices however, I'll give them that.
 
Could someone please tell me why there is no "X" to close a current window?? So annoying to use Alt+F4 all the time.
 
SirSlothXCI said:
Could someone please tell me why there is no "X" to close a current window?? So annoying to use Alt+F4 all the time.
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Try this. I was discussed in this thread.

#1 go to top of window, grab the top hand cursor with mouse click and pull the window down to the bottom, high presto it's gone.
#2 got to top left hand corner with mouse cursor, right click on application from list and select close, high presto it's gone again.
#3 Press Alt F4.
 
Elimentals said:
You not suppose to close them, thats why ;)
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Won't that waste and clog up valuable memory?

wily me said:
Try this. I was discussed in this thread.

#1 go to top of window, grab the top hand cursor with mouse click and pull the window down to the bottom, high presto it's gone.
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Thanks for the tip! I was going insane. Really don't like what they've done with the new UI. Clearly they did not consider desktop experience as a high priority. :(
 
I know it's only a beta, but must confess that I do find the Metro Apps to be very limited in functionality from a content creation point of view (eg. the Wordpress App - can't work out how to create a new blog - it's probably dead simply but in the few minutes a day I have to play with this I can't for the life of me figure it out - right click does nothing, no menus, etc). Another example is the is the pdf viewer - great, it's built in so I don't have to download a viewer app, but goodness, no zoom button, (ctrl roll mouse button to zoom btw).

Under the hood though I am liking it - nice and fast and stable - some nice usability improvements for file copying.

Would be very surprised if the final version did not allow you to use the "Classic" desktop by default on non-tablet devices.
 
SirSlothXCI said:
Won't that waste and clog up valuable memory?



Thanks for the tip! I was going insane. Really don't like what they've done with the new UI. Clearly they did not consider desktop experience as a high priority. :(
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Think Kinect for windows! :)
 
SirSlothXCI said:
Won't that waste and clog up valuable memory?
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No, and the way Metro applications + Windows 8 are designed is that it will kill off the applications itself if needed, basically the same way mobile phones handle background applications. If you do close it, it just take up time to open the next time you use it, If you leave it open it will just stay in the memory without using the CPU till you bring it to the foreground again and exactly where you left it.

There is an in-depth formula on how this is done and linked to how likely it is that the user will go back to it, how often and so on, but as a user you don't have to care about it. Simply use the app and move on, the OS will take care of the rest.
 
Elimentals said:
No, and the way Metro applications + Windows 8 are designed is that it will kill off the applications itself if needed, basically the same way mobile phones handle background applications. If you do close it, it just take up time to open the next time you use it, If you leave it open it will just stay in the memory without using the CPU till you bring it to the foreground again and exactly where you left it.

There is an in-depth formula on how this is done and linked to how likely it is that the user will go back to it, how often and so on, but as a user you don't have to care about it. Simply use the app and move on, the OS will take care of the rest.
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Question, what about applications you want to have continuing tasks in the background, I assume that depends on the developer?
 
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