Wootbook, yes/no?

RedViking said:
What is the performance on battery and how long can it comfortably last doing video encoding and editing. I am not interested in plugged-in. . :)
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So I get about 1 and half - 2 hours while doing development work on battery life, which isn't that great to be honest, however That's enough for loadshedding which is my main concern otherwise the laptop is always plugged in.
 
wcm said:
So I get about 1 and half - 2 hours while doing development work on battery life, which isn't that great to be honest, however That's enough for loadshedding which is my main concern otherwise the laptop is always plugged in.
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Okay awesome. Glad that is confirmed then. So will take it off my list then, sadly.
 
RedViking said:
What is the performance on battery and how long can it comfortably last doing video encoding and editing. I am not interested in plugged-in. . :)
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It's a performance-oriented CPU, the 8750H I have in mine easily noms 75w of power under turbo and I swear I've seen it pull more than 100w, which means you are not going to get good battery life if straining the CPU, but boy does it run.

If you're doing encoding and editing, you're either going to get a low power laptop which has poor editing performance but a long battery, because low-power components, or a powerful laptop that has good editing performance and terrible battery, because high-power components. Always a delicate balancing act.

In a perfect world you'd just use a low-power laptop to remote desktop into a dedicated editing box somewhere.

If you're doing CPU-only stuff, probably look at the wootbook metal II, which has a more efficient AMD CPU, and a bigger battery, otherwise look for a dell with a massive battery and an intel mobility processor
 
Faux_Grey said:
It's a performance-oriented CPU, the 8750H I have in mine easily noms 75w of power under turbo and I swear I've seen it pull more than 100w, which means you are not going to get good battery life if straining the CPU, but boy does it run.

If you're doing encoding and editing, you're either going to get a low power laptop which has poor editing performance but a long battery, because low-power components, or a powerful laptop that has good editing performance and terrible battery, because high-power components. Always a delicate balancing act.

In a perfect world you'd just use a low-power laptop to remote desktop into a dedicated editing box somewhere.

If you're doing CPU-only stuff, probably look at the wootbook metal II, which has a more efficient AMD CPU, and a bigger battery, otherwise look for a dell with a massive battery and an intel mobility processor
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Macbook Pro, Dell XPS, Asus ProArt Studiobooks are anything but low power and have excellent battery life and performance.

However they do come at a price. But yeah, if I need to get a Laptop that needs to be plugged in to perform well I might as well just get a desktop.

Anyways, it seems like the Wootbook is not for me then.
 
RedViking said:
Macbook Pro, Dell XPS, Asus ProArt Studiobooks are anything but low power and have excellent battery life and performance.

However they do come at a price. But yeah, if I need to get a Laptop that needs to be plugged in to perform well I might as well just get a desktop.

Anyways, it seems like the Wootbook is not for me then.
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True dat, but don't forget, you cant cheat physics! lel
The Asus studiobook is an absolute powerhouse, but still only averages 2 hours of runtime during actual load of cpu/gpu.
MBP and XPS tend to use mobility processors which are much slower, but much less power hungry, 5x slower for 5x more battery life is a good trade off, whenever I only want to powerpoint and need to find a plug, I always envy those people with 10h+ batteries. :(
 
Faux_Grey said:
True dat, but don't forget, you cant cheat physics! lel
The Asus studiobook is an absolute powerhouse, but still only averages 2 hours of runtime during actual load of cpu/gpu.
MBP and XPS tend to use mobility processors which are much slower, but much less power hungry, 5x slower for 5x more battery life is a good trade off, whenever I only want to powerpoint and need to find a plug, I always envy those people with 10h+ batteries. :(
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Yeah, I think my use case is different to the average user looking for desktop performance in a laptop.

I have my desktop setup for power use. I just want something I can do some work for 2-3 hours in a coffee shop or when going away for a couple of weeks. It will mostly be admin and CAD modeling and some basic Camtasua video editing. Also want to do my recordings and stuff, so it must be relatively silent as well. The processing of videos or GPU intensive stuff can wait till back at my PC.

Friend got the Lenovo Flex 5 and I tested running Graphisoft Archicad and a 500m² house and super impressed how well it works on battery for the specs. Screen is also beautiful. It lacks massively on the GPU side of things though.
 
RedViking said:
Macbook Pro, Dell XPS, Asus ProArt Studiobooks are anything but low power and have excellent battery life and performance.

However they do come at a price. But yeah, if I need to get a Laptop that needs to be plugged in to perform well I might as well just get a desktop.

Anyways, it seems like the Wootbook is not for me then.
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You're onto something there.

Why don't you get yourself a desktop with a workstation GPU and a decent CPU? When you're mobile you just VPN into your box at home from the nastiest cheapest ass laptop that money can buy?

I know you're an architect so leaving your work on your machine has the added benefit of it inherently having less risk should you get mugged at gunpoint while your out somewhere and they take your laptop bag.
 
The_Ogre said:
You're onto something there.

Why don't you get yourself a desktop with a workstation GPU and a decent CPU? When you're mobile you just VPN into your box at home from the nastiest cheapest ass laptop that money can buy?

I know you're an architect so leaving your work on your machine has the added benefit of it inherently having less risk should you get mugged at gunpoint while your out somewhere and they take your laptop bag.
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Remoting has too much of a delay unfortunately. But it is an option where there is a good connection. Currently my desktop is not too bad. Probably due for an upgrade once the world has stablized a bit around PC prices and components available.

Notebook stolen is a risk, but most stuff is online and only synced to drive when working on it anyways.
 
I think regardless of what you choose, you'll struggle to find a laptop that's a) affordable, b) has long battery life and c) performant.

At best you'll need to choose two options and deal with the third undesirable option
 
PhireSide said:
I think regardless of what you choose, you'll struggle to find a laptop that's a) affordable, b) has long battery life and c) performant.

At best you'll need to choose two options and deal with the third undesirable option
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Why I am looking for a middle ground.

Relatively affordable, decent battery life, in between general and power use, leaving the big processing tasks for the desktop.

Something between a 20K Wootbook and a 50K XPS. :ROFL:


I really think the Wootbook is almost there, but the battery performance is a major let down.
 
As someone who has had countless Windows laptops and desktops off all shapes and sizes and was looking at a Wootbook..I recommend you take a second look at the Macbook Pro with the M1 chipset IF it would suit your workflow.

Battery life is insanely good and it runs cool and quiet under sustained load. The possible downsides are software compatibility and of course, no ability to run x86 Windows 10 due to the ARM architecture.

The second closest laptop I found to my needs is the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7. The Vega GPU is really quite good and battery life is pretty impressive too. I liked that it had a glass touchpad, USB-C charging, a very good display and a few other nice-to-haves. You also get them in a Pro revision with stronger CPU's and 2.2 or 2.8k displays.

Sadly, no local models are available - you'd need to import one which is why I went for a Macbook Air instead. The closest local competitor was the Lenovo Ideapad Flex 5 but I was put off by the mylar touchpad, no USB-C charging and sub-par build quality.
 
PhireSide said:
As someone who has had countless Windows laptops and desktops off all shapes and sizes and was looking at a Wootbook..I recommend you take a second look at the Macbook Pro with the M1 chipset IF it would suit your workflow.

Battery life is insanely good and it runs cool and quiet under sustained load. The possible downsides are software compatibility and of course, no ability to run x86 Windows 10 due to the ARM architecture.

The second closest laptop I found to my needs is the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7. The Vega GPU is really quite good and battery life is pretty impressive too. I liked that it had a glass touchpad, USB-C charging, a very good display and a few other nice-to-haves. You also get them in a Pro revision with stronger CPU's and 2.2 or 2.8k displays.

Sadly, no local models are available - you'd need to import one which is why I went for a Macbook Air instead. The closest local competitor was the Lenovo Ideapad Flex 5 but I was put off by the mylar touchpad, no USB-C charging and sub-par build quality.
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Cheers man. My conclusion as well. But unfortunately my software and work flow won't work on Mac.
 
PhireSide said:
As someone who has had countless Windows laptops and desktops off all shapes and sizes and was looking at a Wootbook..I recommend you take a second look at the Macbook Pro with the M1 chipset IF it would suit your workflow.

Battery life is insanely good and it runs cool and quiet under sustained load. The possible downsides are software compatibility and of course, no ability to run x86 Windows 10 due to the ARM architecture.

The second closest laptop I found to my needs is the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7. The Vega GPU is really quite good and battery life is pretty impressive too. I liked that it had a glass touchpad, USB-C charging, a very good display and a few other nice-to-haves. You also get them in a Pro revision with stronger CPU's and 2.2 or 2.8k displays.

Sadly, no local models are available - you'd need to import one which is why I went for a Macbook Air instead. The closest local competitor was the Lenovo Ideapad Flex 5 but I was put off by the mylar touchpad, no USB-C charging and sub-par build quality.
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Bro this looks almost perfect for my needs. I would have liked a 1650ti. Buy not bad at all. 32GB ram would also have been nice.

Lenovo Yoga Creator 7 Core i7 16GB 15.6" FHD Notebook - Dark Moss

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RedViking said:
Cheers man. My conclusion as well. But unfortunately my software and work flow won't work on Mac.
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Locally, I'd say you're SOL as we seem to get the low-end stuff here, especially with AMD which provides amazing price/perf internationally. For embedded graphics, their APU's are hard to beat although the Intel Iris XE GPU's are not doing too badly.

My recommendation would be to keep a look out for something that meets your performance requirements first and then see if you can find a model that can charge via USB-C and then find a large-ish powerbank capable of charging said laptop to ensure you have a few more hours of runtime.

Best of luck in your search! And if in doubt, notebookcheck.com is your friend!
 
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