my experience the wug has slowed down abit (downloads 200kb,pings sometimes 3000ms) also but i try and help with donations were i can and i have spoken to Protz before and i agree with what hes says.I also agree its not fair the admins cannot do everyhting but i prefer the way Densweep does things if there a problem with the HS then he contacts the people that connect to it or if he needs something for the HS and if he needs help i will assist.i havent had attitude before with the guys i have asked for help from before with either but i did get help without even donating also.and please remember the admins are only a handfull of guys.