Wug Experience

wader

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:) Hi All

my experience the wug has slowed down abit (downloads 200kb,pings sometimes 3000ms) also but i try and help with donations were i can and i have spoken to Protz before and i agree with what hes says.I also agree its not fair the admins cannot do everyhting but i prefer the way Densweep does things if there a problem with the HS then he contacts the people that connect to it or if he needs something for the HS and if he needs help i will assist.i havent had attitude before with the guys i have asked for help from before with either but i did get help without even donating also.and please remember the admins are only a handfull of guys.
 

protzkrog

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First comment of negativeness that's just lovely, this is definitely not hate speech, there is a definite problem with the network, for atleast a month all pings from the pretoria side of the network has been between 1000m/s and 3000m/s and I have spoke to numerous people with the same problem, but it seems that whenever anyone complains it considered hateful towards the community, the moment anyone decides to voice their opinion they get shut down.


The links between centurion and pretoria are:
PO-RV-LT
PO-RV-VH
HF-KK-WM
EP-WP-LT
DW-ER-CT
DW-ER-ZK
JINX-MS-GV

so that is RV, KK, WP, ER and MS, 5 sites that create links between the two areas, these links are running at full capacity 24/7

We need more highsites on the ridges to create more links between the areas
 
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louwcg

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ai, ai gents, i'm the real stiffyxyz1. koos you naugthy boy. Should not have chatted to you about the wug in the first place. You even using my nick in the IRC channels. you ****.
 

vaalpens

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yep, its cool , i read the guide on the wiki, and i also read the wug constitution :p
 

DaVirus

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Die moot se enigste link uit is deur WL-WG, dis die groot probleem, ons kort sites op die rante wat die moot en die res van die wug kan sien, om nog links uit te kry.

die WL-WG link sit op -75 met CCQ van 30 tot 60%, ek het al 'n paar uur spandeer om hom beter te kry, freqs gechange, tx power, etc, maar geen sukses.

Ai Protz!
It has been suggested before to link WB to either Magalies1/2 & KK. (Previously submitted on the planning page)
Not just by myself either, but also one of the other X-admins.
The equipment was purchased, installed and aligned.
But the WB HS was excluded from the planning and links were put up over it.

So, if you are telling me to find alternative ways of improving Moot speeds, we did.
But it seems the HS is not recognized as a HS as we did not rely on WUG Donations, it was build and upgraded with our own savings money.

As for donations, we have all made donations. Especially as it would improve speeds and expand the network.
 

shawn_T

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ai, ai gents, i'm the real stiffyxyz1. koos you naugthy boy. Should not have chatted to you about the wug in the first place. You even using my nick in the IRC channels. you ****.

If I was a admin on PTAWUG I would disable Koos's mac finish en klaar.
Mens kort nie mense soos hy op die wug nie, hy kom voor as n "leacher" Goed vir niks mense daai...Enige iemand wat kla oor spoed moet stil bly... (Sorry Koos maar dis hoe jy voor kom met daai post, ek kan verkeerd wees)

Ek weet nie hoekom mense soos daai die wug join nie, as jy nie belang stel aan wifi en networking nie of te minste te help met highsites bou/upgrade nie bly liewers weg, want ander is jy net vir een rede daar... julle moane as julle nie die latest copy van Linux kan download teen 100000000KBps nie, 10kbps behoort genoeg te wees, dis mos free
 

h0bbes

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Ai Protz!
It has been suggested before to link WB to either Magalies1/2 & KK. (Previously submitted on the planning page)
Not just by myself either, but also one of the other X-admins.
The equipment was purchased, installed and aligned.
But the WB HS was excluded from the planning and links were put up over it.

So, if you are telling me to find alternative ways of improving Moot speeds, we did.
But it seems the HS is not recognized as a HS as we did not rely on WUG Donations, it was build and upgraded with our own savings money.

As for donations, we have all made donations. Especially as it would improve speeds and expand the network.

Wow! This seems very damning....

I for one, would very much like to hear Protz's reply.
 

stiffxiii

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You're not getting it, are you?
Who are you expecting to do this?
Who do you think is going to fulfill this "request"?
YOU SHOULD.
Get off your ass, quit complaining and GET INVOLVED.
Wugs are about the people, thats why they're called community networks.

If i get of my ass, I will probably just d0nner someone, and that will be just to stop the stupid, or wait let me Rephrase, the incorrectly implemented QOS.

Do a trial, stop the qos and do tests, test the perceptions.

I was once told, the most difficult thing is to change someone's perception. Change my perception and the rest of the wuggers and you might get what you are looking for.

PS, telling me to get off my ass is the exact arrogance the people are talking about!


stiff
 

h0bbes

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If i get of my ass, I will probably just d0nner someone, and that will be just to stop the stupid, or wait let me Rephrase, the incorrectly implemented QOS.

Do a trial, stop the qos and do tests, test the perceptions.

I was once told, the most difficult thing is to change someone's perception. Change my perception and the rest of the wuggers and you might get what you are looking for.

PS, telling me to get off my ass is the exact arrogance the people are talking about!


stiff

Agreed. It seems as if there is definitely a case to be made for an US and THEM scenario.
 

vaalpens

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Ai Protz!
It has been suggested before to link WB to either Magalies1/2 & KK. (Previously submitted on the planning page)
Not just by myself either, but also one of the other X-admins.
The equipment was purchased, installed and aligned.
But the WB HS was excluded from the planning and links were put up over it.

So, if you are telling me to find alternative ways of improving Moot speeds, we did.
But it seems the HS is not recognized as a HS as we did not rely on WUG Donations, it was build and upgraded with our own savings money.

As for donations, we have all made donations. Especially as it would improve speeds and expand the network.

eish, im struggling to find te page on the wiki with the upgrade plans and LOS tests, like the other ones that went up in last 6 months with motivations, LOS pics and graphs, upgrade cost estimates etc :(
did u take it off ?
 

DenSweep

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No, wait, I'm Stiffyxyz. NO, no, he is. No wait, I think they are. No, it's just aliens out to get us!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!
 

protzkrog

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Ai Protz!
It has been suggested before to link WB to either Magalies1/2 & KK. (Previously submitted on the planning page)
Not just by myself either, but also one of the other X-admins.
The equipment was purchased, installed and aligned.
But the WB HS was excluded from the planning and links were put up over it.

So, if you are telling me to find alternative ways of improving Moot speeds, we did.
But it seems the HS is not recognized as a HS as we did not rely on WUG Donations, it was build and upgraded with our own savings money.

As for donations, we have all made donations. Especially as it would improve speeds and expand the network.

Die probleem is dat WB net 'n proper link aan RR het. RR link na WL en MV, dis hoekom RR gekies is. Mens kan nie net beplanning neerskryf en goed gaan koop en hoop almal wat betrokke is met die projek stem saam met jou nie. jy moet met hulle praat, storie bespreek, etc.

Daar is nooit vir my 'n lys gestuur van goed benodig word om die site te upgrade dat ek dit op ptawug.co.za kan sit nie, net 'n lys van wat reeds gekoop is om in die donations te log.

Magalies is full, we are not allowed to put up any more antennas. We started with 3 and pushed to 6, thats the maximum we are allowed to put up.
 
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DaVirus

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eish, im struggling to find te page on the wiki with the upgrade plans and LOS tests, like the other ones that went up in last 6 months with motivations, LOS pics and graphs, upgrade cost estimates etc :(
did u take it off ?

No, I did not take off anything. The plannings was on a seperate page under the ML ML2 HS's.
 

protzkrog

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If i get of my ass, I will probably just d0nner someone, and that will be just to stop the stupid, or wait let me Rephrase, the incorrectly implemented QOS.

Do a trial, stop the qos and do tests, test the perceptions.

I was once told, the most difficult thing is to change someone's perception. Change my perception and the rest of the wuggers and you might get what you are looking for.

PS, telling me to get off my ass is the exact arrogance the people are talking about!


stiff

ok, praat met blaze, dan skryf jy vir ons AWESOME QOS scripts! Hoekom het jy nie lankal aangebied nie ?

die persepsie wat ek kry is dat jy niks wil doen nie, en net demand dat alles moet werk. maar ja, dis net n persepsie.

ek weet nie hoe jy andersins iets wil verbeter aan die wug deur net te sit en moan dat ander mense alles moet fix nie.
 
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DenSweep

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Hobbes and Stiffxiii, stop being sorry little cry babies! Mommy, they won't let me play with them!!!

Mommy: "Have you asked them if you can play with?"

Cry baby: "No mommy, they must just know I want to play with!"

If you want to be part of the WUG, then participate!!! And stop using anon nick names. Honestly, how pathetic are you?
 

protzkrog

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Agreed. It seems as if there is definitely a case to be made for an US and THEM scenario.

yes, the US are the people that actually do something to improve the network
the THEM are the people that do not want to help on highsites/find new highsites/donate/help users/populate wiki/etc.
 
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