Xbox One in trouble.

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madtza said:
On the Sony giving the Pubs choice to implement DRM, that could actually go against them because if the Pubs all decide to go that route that would make them look like they lied to their users and pretty much on the same space as MS.
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What?! This happens on the PC all the time. Think about Activision/Blizzard and Diablo III. Are PC users angry at Microsoft for lying to them, or for letting someone use always-online DRM on the Windows operating system? No, they are not. If anything, its the publisher that gets the grief. One has to wonder why on earth MS would require anyone to have to sign-in on their xbone for the sake of a publisher - it's a brand new approach from them and it just seems stupid. I'm going PS4 as well.
 
Markd said:
What?! This happens on the PC all the time. Think about Activision/Blizzard and Diablo III. Are PC users angry at Microsoft for lying to them, or for letting someone use always-online DRM on the Windows operating system? No, they are not. If anything, its the publisher that gets the grief. One has to wonder why on earth MS would require anyone to have to sign-in on their xbone for the sake of a publisher - it's a brand new approach from them and it just seems stupid. I'm going PS4 as well.
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Well that was true, until 8 came along. ModernUI has the same DRM across all WinRT apps. Microsoft is going to do with Windows apps store what they could not with Games for Windows Live. Just wait and see.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd757736(v=vs.85).aspx
 
prOd said:
"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to stay connected; it's called Xbox 360"

-Don Mattrick, Microsoft's President of Interactive Entertainment Business
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So it is the Xbox 360 vs PS4? This ain't gonna end well for Microsoft.
 
Shayd said:
So it is the Xbox 360 vs PS4? This ain't gonna end well for Microsoft.
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Well this is the stance they are taking for people complaining about online always. It boggles my mind how the biggest company in the world can make such bad decisions. They really are shatting on gamers, and yes, this will not end well for them
 
Don Mattrick is a complete bloody idiot....

You don't have a reliable interwebs connection, buy a 360...

No you muppet... we don't have a reliable interwebs connection, we will buy a PS4.. we have a reliable interwebs connection, we will STILL buy a PS4
 
AlphaJohn said:
This has got nothing to do with Sony, and if Publishers do it themselves(Require Always Online for single player) its up to use the end users to show that we do not like this type of practice, by not supporting the games.

Oh and lets get one thing clear. All games, regardless of Publisher or OEM have DRM, just that Sony doesn't require you to validate the authenticity of your games online "Big Brother" style. In short they trust that their console's and DRM code on the discs are good enough to make sure you only use originals.
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I think most gamers are well aware of the disc protection that already exist but yeah, thanks for clearing it up. We'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out from all quarters.

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Chevron said:
I predict this gen will be PS2 all over again.
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You are 100% correct.

Unless MS pull their head out of their ass and change their stupid DRM nonsense.. if they do that, then its anyones game again.
 
personally I still prefer xbox one, I am always connected to internet and not too bothered that PS4 is graphically more capable... I also dont really care which one wins a majority vote as best console... xbox one suits me just fine as an individual, while I realise that is not the case for most, im still happy...
 
So where does one pre-order the Ps4? All this talk is gettin gme more amped to get it sooner rather than later, PLUs watched the Killzone previews and inFamous trailer. EPIC. Just need some more exclusives to come.
 
Markd said:
What?! This happens on the PC all the time. Think about Activision/Blizzard and Diablo III. Are PC users angry at Microsoft for lying to them, or for letting someone use always-online DRM on the Windows operating system? No, they are not. If anything, its the publisher that gets the grief. One has to wonder why on earth MS would require anyone to have to sign-in on their xbone for the sake of a publisher - it's a brand new approach from them and it just seems stupid. I'm going PS4 as well.
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Yes it does but like you're saying it's a new approach for consoles, that might not be received well regardless of the who's behind it. If we're going to separate the two then Sony should've reiterated and made it clear if there will be some publishers implementing online DRM. Else come launch day half your games require online DRM whereby you alluded to us that this wasn't the case. Why create all that confusion?
Sure, Sony will carry less of the brunt but they won't be free from it.

I'm thinking MS will evetually backtrack from this if it affects them badly or possibly when they stop making the 360.
 
Wasp_21 said:
So where does one pre-order the Ps4? All this talk is gettin gme more amped to get it sooner rather than later, PLUs watched the Killzone previews and inFamous trailer. EPIC. Just need some more exclusives to come.
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Try BTgames.co.za, you can preorder online there.
 
I'm confused about the uproar over the XBox One's updated DRM method.

Traditionally the disc (e.g. Bluray on PS4) would be used to check rights i.e. has to be inserted to play particular game. To me it seems MS have just modernized the check method to use the cloud. Am I mistaken in believing XBox One games can be played without the disc being inserted i.e. all install completely on HD?
 
ToxicBunny said:
You are 100% correct.

Unless MS pull their head out of their ass and change their stupid DRM nonsense.. if they do that, then its anyones game again.
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If they can level the playing field and adopt Sony's (or their own 360) policy wrt DRM, then I will get an X1. If they don't, then it's PS4. I think the damage has already been done though, this was possibly their last shot at getting it right and they failed.

Even if they do remove all this later on, they have already lost the trust of gamers because nobody wants to invest in a console and be unsure that they may start introducing this crap again.
 
Roman4604 said:
I'm confused about the uproar over the XBox One's updated DRM method.

Traditionally the disc (e.g. Bluray on PS4) would be used to check rights i.e. has to be inserted to play particular game. To me it seems MS have just modernized the check method to use the cloud. Am I mistaken in believing XBox One games can be played without the disc being inserted i.e. all install completely on HD?
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IOW, completely alienate those without an internet connection. In any event, it's not the manufacturer's decision to make, it's the publisher's - something that even Sony grasps.
 
Roman4604 said:
True, but with their mountains of XBL data, I would image MS has a pretty accurate idea of what % that represents.
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Still, it might prompt others such as myself to jump on principle. I can't trust a company that locks everything down without leaving any alternatives open, it makes me wonder what they will do once I do have the console. At the very least, DRM decisions should be left to the publisher.
 
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