Xbox One in trouble.

Mike Hoxbig said:
I can't trust a company that locks everything down without leaving any alternatives open
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Agreed, would have been wiser to design the One to be more flexible on DRM checking e.g. if Internet not available prompt to insert disc.

Thats assuming the discless playing/operation is true. If it is, one can understand why the put in some safeguards/restrictions. Without them it would be possible to load a single game (disc) on 100 Xbox Ones.

AlphaJohn said:
How can you get an accurate image of how many consoles are out there without internet access?
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Compare units sold vs connected.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Still not gonna give you an accurate number. How you gonna see which ones are not connected vs not working or in storage.
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Well the accuracy would be relative to the total unique units shipped since launch, in this case 77 mil I think. The stock in storage or retired at any one point in time would likely be minimal compared to the total.

EDIT: 76mil sold vs. 46 mil XBL subs
 
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Roman4604 said:
Thats assuming the discless playing/operation is true.
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Did some more reading up, and its true. Once you've installed the game you can pack away the Bluray disc.

10 unique XBL logins can play each game installed on a particular Xbox One. Additionally, for each game, one extra XBL login on a seperate XBox One can play the game (must be friend of installer XBL login for at least 30 days).
 
Xbox One-Supported Xbox Live Countries

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States
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AlphaJohn said:
This has got nothing to do with Sony, and if Publishers do it themselves(Require Always Online for single player) its up to use the end users to show that we do not like this type of practice, by not supporting the games.
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It wouldn't have if Sony didn't release that ad.

Markd said:
What?! This happens on the PC all the time. Think about Activision/Blizzard and Diablo III. Are PC users angry at Microsoft for lying to them, or for letting someone use always-online DRM on the Windows operating system? No, they are not. If anything, its the publisher that gets the grief. One has to wonder why on earth MS would require anyone to have to sign-in on their xbone for the sake of a publisher - it's a brand new approach from them and it just seems stupid. I'm going PS4 as well.
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MS never claimed that DRM would not exist on the pc. In fact they've increasingly added support for it. Sony made a claim that they should now enforce with publishers or else they lied.

I am not impressed with either company here tbh. Neither Sony nor MS are gaming companies with a passion for gaming. It's all about the bottom line, which hasn't materialsed yet, and taking cheap jabs at one another. That is why Sega didn't go with either one of them but chose Nintendo as a partner instead. Can you imagine Sonic in the hands of one of them? True they had their own conflict but their decisions were for the good of gaming and it was comical at times.
 
Donno if this has been posted but it's worth looking at again.

[video=youtube;DxkEe_l7S3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DxkEe_l7S3g[/video]

:erm:
 
Heads with roll in MS. I hope for their sake they got a team frantically working on a firmware update
 
Swa said:
I am not impressed with either company here tbh. Neither Sony nor MS are gaming companies with a passion for gaming. It's all about the bottom line, which hasn't materialsed yet, and taking cheap jabs at one another.
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With the consumer caught smack bang in the middle!
 
saffakanera said:
Nice source ;)

Can anyone recollect how the 360 was launched? Was it global, or also staggered?
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I think it was staggered, but at least back then you could still import one and it would work.
What they're doing now is a fuck up of epic proportions.

Seriously, who excludes Japan from a console launch?
 
Mouse said:
I think it was staggered, but at least back then you could still import one and it would work.
What they're doing now is a fuck up of epic proportions.

Seriously, who excludes Japan from a console launch?
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Fully, and they already developed Japanese and other Asian characters for win 8, wtf?
 
Maverick Jester said:
They have only sold 4 million Xbox's and 360's there, ever... Not gonna criticise them for this one...
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It's still a poor strategy. Asia (not just Japan) is possibly the biggest gaming market - you don't cut them off, you try and make further inroads.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
It's still a poor strategy. Asia (not just Japan) is possibly the biggest gaming market - you don't cut them off, you try and make further inroads.
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I agree with you- I would have expected China and Korea as markets to target from the off... But I get why they dumped Japan.
 
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