Yokohama for new tyres?

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Looking for 2 new front wheels. I have 205/50 16 inch Yokohama tyres on the front now. They were good I thought, but didnt seem to last as long as I wanted. Think it is about 25 000 km that they on now. In no robot racer so was expecting them to last longer. Are they of a softer compound and so wore out quicker?

Was told about Kuhmo....but they got the lowest rating for a tyre, see below (old report, but still informative):

Pirelli was the highest-ranked tyre brand for the second consecutive year, with a score of 841 on a 1 000-point scale, followed by Michelin (836), Bridgestone (815) and Yokohama (798) in the customer satisfaction index study conducted by JD Power and Associates, a leading global independent authority on consumer-reported quality in the automotive industry.

Firestone (769), Goodyear (780), Dunlop (781) and Continental (789) tyres were all ranked below the average of 790. The two lowest-ranked tyre brands were Korea's Kumho (766) and Hankook (752).
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http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=566&fArticleId=3112780

So what tyre should I go for thats safe and wont leave a huge hole in my pocket? Im leaning towards Yokohama again, all good with the tyre except tyre life (which isnt the most important to me, but would be nice if they lasted at least 40 000 km). Dunlop is a no go as my previous Dunlops that came with my car bubbled and bulged.

Cheers ;)
 
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Dunlops always go oval before they are worn down near the limit.

My wife got 40 000km from the Continentals on the front of her car- same size. Rear tyres now done 52 000 but will not see 60 000.

I've got Falken 265/65-17 on my bakkie with 90 000km on them. Will be replacing around 100 to 105.

Look at sidewalls for ratings: traction, temperature, treadlife.
You want traction A or AA, Temperature A and treadlife as high a number as poss. The above Contis are 280 (traction AA) and the Falkens 500 (traction A) Obviously to a degree traction and treadlife are opposites, but a good tyre will offer good ratings on both.
 
i yad Yokohama, i do believe some of them are soft, so handling was prob good.

I put Firestone on my car now because although not the best tyre, they have that all-road guarantee thing and also seem to tackle potholes and nails much better than others. and they grip pretty well too.

I've had Dunlops, never again - out of 4 tyres 3 "bubbled"- before 10k. I've had Michelin pilot primacy, 2 of my back tyres began to "peel" - before 15k. All Michelin had to say was "it looks like over use in sand roads" i was like wth?? my car is far to low for heavy sand roads, not to mention i've been on what, 60km of sand in 15k km??

I've had continental - no issues, gripped well just very expensive.

It also depends on the car, my Renault goes through front tyres almost twice the speed of the rear. Maybe all fwd diesels go quicker from the torque?
 
Yokohama's and Continental are a safe bet

Pirelli ONLY if you want a performance tyre that handles brilliantly in the wet

dunflops... eish lets not go there

conti eco contacts are cheap(ish) and give brilliant tyre life
 
Hagu13 said:
Dunlops always go oval before they are worn down near the limit.

My wife got 40 000km from the Continentals on the front of her car- same size. Rear tyres now done 52 000 but will not see 60 000.

I've got Falken 265/65-17 on my bakkie with 90 000km on them. Will be replacing around 100 to 105.

Look at sidewalls for ratings: traction, temperature, treadlife.
You want traction A or AA, Temperature A and treadlife as high a number as poss. The above Contis are 280 (traction AA) and the Falkens 500 (traction A) Obviously to a degree traction and treadlife are opposites, but a good tyre will offer good ratings on both.
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I didnt know this! Thanks for the info, thumbs up!

rurapente said:
i yad Yokohama, i do believe some of them are soft, so handling was prob good.

I put Firestone on my car now because although not the best tyre, they have that all-road guarantee thing and also seem to tackle potholes and nails much better than others. and they grip pretty well too.

I've had Dunlops, never again - out of 4 tyres 3 "bubbled"- before 10k. I've had Michelin pilot primacy, 2 of my back tyres began to "peel" - before 15k. All Michelin had to say was "it looks like over use in sand roads" i was like wth?? my car is far to low for heavy sand roads, not to mention i've been on what, 60km of sand in 15k km??

I've had continental - no issues, gripped well just very expensive.

It also depends on the car, my Renault goes through front tyres almost twice the speed of the rear. Maybe all fwd diesels go quicker from the torque?
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The handling on my current Yokohamas was good, its coming to near end of the tyre's life span...so now its not so great :p Had the same problem with Dunlops I had. Will check out Firestone too, thanks.

wikk3d88 said:
Yokohama's and Continental are a safe bet

Pirelli ONLY if you want a performance tyre that handles brilliantly in the wet

dunflops... eish lets not go there

conti eco contacts are cheap(ish) and give brilliant tyre life
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Kewl, thanks...will also check Continentals ;)
 
Personally I take Michelin over Yokohama any day. And considering that it's cheaper also, it's a no brainier to me.

I've gotten the highest km's from Michelin's so far, Yokohama wasn't at all impressive and the grip wasn't at all beter than Michelin either. Give TWT a call they charged R700 per, for Michelin Exalto II's last I called (195/15) which was cheaper than the Yokohamas which the cheapest I could get was around R800-R900 per if I recall.

I've gotten myself some Bridgestone MY01's now (R500 per) so I'll see how they perform but so far it's running perfectly. Michelin's were a bit too expensive for me this time.
 
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Had a tyre bulge took it back to the oke that fitted it and he organized me a new one. He just claims from the company that sells it. Anyways check out Toyo, make some affordable tyres now.
 
rurapente said:
I put Firestone on my car now because although not the best tyre, they have that all-road guarantee thing and also seem to tackle potholes and nails much better than others. and they grip pretty well too.
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This All Road Guarentee is SUCH a great marketing idea. Basically if your tyre breaks in some way they'll replace it and you only pay for the tread you've used. So if you've used say 20% of the tyre you get a new one at 80% discount. Great! BUT ... Now you have 1 new tyre and 3 tyres that are 20% used so at the very least you'll buy another one and it has to be a Firestone to match the others. They sell at least 1 new tyre every time. Very clever I think.

I have Yokohama H/T's (Highway tyres). Like most 4x4 drivers I spend 95% of my time on the highway. I'm very impressed with the Yokohama's. They done 40,000k's so far and look good for another 40k. I drive fairly conservatively though. I guess that makes a difference.
 
How often would you reccomend swapping and rotating front and rear tyres?
I do mine at least every 5,000k.

Where can I get more info on the tyre ratings, like the wear and the grip?
I was only aware of the size and speed ratings.

See, you learn something new every day :)
 
Slightly off topic, but if a tyre bubbles from hitting a pothole ... can you send it back or is it your own fault?
 
wetkit said:
How often would you reccomend swapping and rotating front and rear tyres?
I do mine at least every 5,000k.

Where can I get more info on the tyre ratings, like the wear and the grip?
I was only aware of the size and speed ratings.

See, you learn something new every day :)
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The website's usually provide information. Swapping depends on wear, and wear depends on the tire and the car.

Voicy said:
Slightly off topic, but if a tyre bubbles from hitting a pothole ... can you send it back or is it your own fault?
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Own fault but it can be repaired.
 
I went for Michelin pilot 2 from the Bridgestone re050 (think) and what a difference! I was going to go for Pirelli but they are soft and noisy... im not a michelin fan (F1 and ferrari - hehe) but must say they are the best tyres I have ever had. I wouldnt skimp on price on tyres either...
 
G5GTI05 said:
I went for Michelin pilot 2 from the Bridgestone re050 (think) and what a difference!
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Well you are kinda comparing a performance tire to a mainstream tire but yeah they are great.
 
Time for new tyres again, found my old thread...so thought to resurrect instead of creating new.

I went with Bridgestones, and had Continetals too since my last post. None came close to the handling in dry and wet of the Yokohama S-Drives. So I need new fronts and will be going back to the S Drives. Not easy to find it seems...A Drives seem to be in stock in most places...but not keen on them.

Added...I have had my car for almost 8 years now...still on the same set of Dunlops on the rear with no sign of them needing replacing in terms of tread wear. Frickin hardy tyres! Just concerned with them on my car for more than 8 years...will the rubber be hard and brittle? Should I replace them or move them to the front and add new tyres to the rear?
 
What dunlops? I would replace them for peace of mind.
I would suggest Michelin PilotSport3s as another alternative, based on positive experience with them on my mums car. They do not replace the old PS2s, but are good tyres in their own right.
 
CrazyFig said:
Added...I have had my car for almost 8 years now...still on the same set of Dunlops on the rear with no sign of them needing replacing in terms of tread wear. Frickin hardy tyres! Just concerned with them on my car for more than 8 years...will the rubber be hard and brittle? Should I replace them or move them to the front and add new tyres to the rear?
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Please read this
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...d-carefully-beyond-five-years/article1358907/
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138

To your question, yes they age and degrade, look up what the manufacturer says is the max tire life. I replace mine at 5year (that is if they last that long). Learned my lesson when tire aged 8 years had a massive blowout.
 
CrazyFig said:
Time for new tyres again, found my old thread...so thought to resurrect instead of creating new.

I went with Bridgestones, and had Continetals too since my last post. None came close to the handling in dry and wet of the Yokohama S-Drives. So I need new fronts and will be going back to the S Drives. Not easy to find it seems...A Drives seem to be in stock in most places...but not keen on them.

Added...I have had my car for almost 8 years now...still on the same set of Dunlops on the rear with no sign of them needing replacing in terms of tread wear. Frickin hardy tyres! Just concerned with them on my car for more than 8 years...will the rubber be hard and brittle? Should I replace them or move them to the front and add new tyres to the rear?
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You will see hairline cracks in the rubber if they become brittle, otherwise they should be fine.

I also had Yokohama but the superdiggers on my 4x4, got 110000km out of them, best buy yet!
 
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