Yokohama for new tyres?

Try Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetric 2's - just put them on my car and love 'em. Amazing reports on the web about them as well - won a good few shootouts with all the other major brands. Also try a place called L&Z Auto (I think) in Voortrekker road Maitland. Friendly bunch of folk there and the prices they offered blew TWT and the Tyre Guys quotes out of the water.
 
Just naming a brand doesn't help much at all.

Yokohama make a large range of tyres, just like everyone else. Chances are you did indeed buy a softer compound that's badly matched to your car.

Also it seems nobody asked you what car you drive and what kind of driving you do.

Someone above simply says "put on Eagle F1's because that's what I have" for all that we know he drives a Lamborghini and you drive a Punto...so you can't simply take advice like that.


So what do you drive? Where do you do most of your driving?
 
Voicy said:
Slightly off topic, but if a tyre bubbles from hitting a pothole ... can you send it back or is it your own fault?
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It could be your suspension's fault and more than likely is or lack of proper inflation.

People tend to make their tyres way too soft to improve the quality of the ride...this is a very bad idea...you have suspension for a reason.

You can rather pump your tyres way too hard it will be much better for your car, longer lifespan of tyres and better grip in general.

That nonsense about the tyre balding in the middle if inflated too much is nothing but an old wive's tail, in fact the opposite is true in that because the tyres are inflated harder the sidewalls are harder and therefore the edges wear off.

You can put up to 18 bar into a set of car tyres before they'll pop.

If your car recommends 250 kpa you can quite happily put 280 in there or even 300 but that might be a little uncomfortable for most.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Just naming a brand doesn't help much at all.

Yokohama make a large range of tyres, just like everyone else. Chances are you did indeed buy a softer compound that's badly matched to your car.

Also it seems nobody asked you what car you drive and what kind of driving you do.

Someone above simply says "put on Eagle F1's because that's what I have" for all that we know he drives a Lamborghini and you drive a Punto...so you can't simply take advice like that.


So what do you drive? Where do you do most of your driving?
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That someone would be me? And why can you not take advice like that, seeing as I have already said there are numerous reports of this tyre on the web? Are you wanting to disagree with me again Sauron?
 
SauRoNZA said:
People tend to make their tyres way too soft to improve the quality of the ride...this is a very bad idea...you have suspension for a reason.

You can rather pump your tyres way too hard it will be much better for your car, longer lifespan of tyres and better grip in general.

That nonsense about the tyre balding in the middle if inflated too much is nothing but an old wive's tail, in fact the opposite is true in that because the tyres are inflated harder the sidewalls are harder and therefore the edges wear off.

You can put up to 18 bar into a set of car tyres before they'll pop.

If your car recommends 250 kpa you can quite happily put 280 in there or even 300 but that might be a little uncomfortable for most.
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I have never heard of people under-inflating tyres for the "quality of the ride"? And if over-inflating tyres increases grip, life span and is "better for your car", why do manufacturers not recommend these higher pressures?
 
Spunkywunky1 said:
That someone would be me? And why can you not take advice like that, seeing as I have already said there are numerous reports of this tyre on the web? Are you wanting to disagree with me again Sauron?
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Again? I don't recall disagreeing with you before.

I'm not saying it's not a good tyre, what I am saying is people are throwing around recommendations without any clue of what the person in question even drives.

Goodyear Eagle F1 is a High Performance tyre which costs a **** load of money...which will be utterly pointless if he drives a Fiat Uno which could never in it's life even use 50% of the grip offered by the tyre and simply run down quickly because it's a softer compound.

There's a right tool for every job.
 
Spunkywunky1 said:
I have never heard of people under-inflating tyres for the "quality of the ride"? And if over-inflating tyres increases grip, life span and is "better for your car", why do manufacturers not recommend these higher pressures?
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Many people rather under inflate instead of over inflate with the false logic that it's a "softer" ride and believing old wives tales that over inflation is bad for the tyre and offers less grip.

The inverse is true in that the lower the pressure the more the tyre "moves" on the rim and bends on the sidewalls indirectly offering less grip or and putting more strain on the sidewall but at the same time offering a means of "softening" the ride by adding to the suspension of car.

Manufacturers recommend middle ground pressures for reasons of comfort.

It's one of the first things they teach you during High Performance Advanced driving courses.

Go check it for yourself, tyre manufacturers always have higher pressures listen.

Unfortunately your Eagle F1 favourite shows the Maximum Ratings of 51psi only, not the Recommended Pressure but you can put 50psi in that tyre with no ill effects.
 
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In the old days when tyres were still made of rubber it was a very different story due to different temperates, compounds etc.

Many of those "old school" ideas have been carried over to modern times where they are no longer applicable.

The difference from the Car Manufacturer's pressure recommendation and that of the tyre manufacturer's can be as much as 40%.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Again? I don't recall disagreeing with you before.

I'm not saying it's not a good tyre, what I am saying is people are throwing around recommendations without any clue of what the person in question even drives.

Goodyear Eagle F1 is a High Performance tyre which costs a **** load of money...which will be utterly pointless if he drives a Fiat Uno which could never in it's life even use 50% of the grip offered by the tyre and simply run down quickly because it's a softer compound.

There's a right tool for every job.
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You don't? If ya say so meneer. Ok, based on the fact that he seems to have gone through a number of front tyres it seems he has some power going through those wheels. And while you are correct that the Eagles are high performance tyres, I looked at Cont'is, Yokohama's, Pirelli's etc before I luckily stumbled across the F1's. And you want to know something? The F1's were the cheapest. My tyres are 19" 's so the prices are high, but the relative costing should give you an idea.

Conti Sport Contact 3's - quotes of R3400, R3100 and R2850 per tyre.

All the others were in the R2900 to R3200 range. Michellins were R4400.

The F1's were R2500 from L&Z - oh yes, they also quoted me R2500 for the Conti's; thats why I recommend them - awesome prices and great service.

And you right, there's always a tool... :)
 
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Not a fan of the Continental Sport Contact's either but now not sure if I had the 2's or 3's on my car before. Not like they are bad but hellishly expensive.

Oddly enough I bought my car with some Hi Fly's or some such no-name brand on them without even knowing and drove many many miles with those quite happily before actually having a look. Just goes to show that the "placebo" effect of either believing a given brand is better or worse based on it's price can be quite overpowering. Then I go on forums and see people shooting down these Hi Fly's (I think that was the name) without ever even having tried them...jumping straight for the big brands because you know more money = more quality.

I now actually have Achilles ATR Sport's on my GTi which cost me all of R1350 each if I recall. Only done about 5000km so far so can't comment on their longevity but performance wise I'm really impressed.


My point was really just that one should base a tyre recommendation on the car it's going onto...so that's a really good place to start. Also if he's doing 90% of driving in traffic and isn't a petrolhead who wants to go playing in the mountain passes on weekends a much harder compound isn't a bad idea.

Goodyear Efficientgrip for instance.
 
Performance and GTi are two words that should never be used in conjunction.... ;)
 
Thanks for all the replies....a wealth of info here!

Not sure what type of dunplops...will need to take a look. Mentioned the S Drive Yokohama's I will prob be looking at again in an earlier reply. Have a MG ZR, and do mostly highway driving.
 
CrazyFig said:
Thanks for all the replies....a wealth of info here!

Not sure what type of dunplops...will need to take a look. Mentioned the S Drive Yokohama's I will prob be looking at again in an earlier reply. Have a MG ZR, and do mostly highway driving.
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S Drive Yoki's are excellent tyres. If you're happy with them, thats good.
I really do think you need to rotate your tyres more often.
 
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