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You've been Voiped!
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Abe
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It's all total hogwash. They are just trying to maintain their inflated tarrifs. How can they complain about the VOIP using too much bandwidth when they happily do MMS's and even Mobile Television. Compare the Mobile television bandwidth to skypes lowly VOIP usage and then they can tell me that story again with a straight face. There are even VOIP solutions that will work on GPRS.
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Abe
, will probably buy it though!Gadget_guy
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It's something which comes around every month, I think they are trying to condition the market so that when it does actually happen and people are charged R25.00 per MB then it's something we all knew would happen.
Then again if this chases the subscribers away, who will lose in the end? VoIP is going to happen whether people like it or not, if I was an operator, I would prefer that it happens on my network.
Then again if this chases the subscribers away, who will lose in the end? VoIP is going to happen whether people like it or not, if I was an operator, I would prefer that it happens on my network.
Abe
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Very true. Rather corner a new market then become locked in the stone age.
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Abe
Think its just posturing for now, trying to convince technical people that VOIP/Skype is a bad idea, unreliagble etc., and then they'll launch MTN-branded VOIP for international calls, at a premium of course, with guaranteed QOS etc.
Gadget_guy
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I would like to see how Skype's on-line users have grown over the last year, I noticed last night there were around 7.2 million, and I guess they are alll using this for the long haul stuff.
If it is growing at a rate of knots then should operators be fighting it?
http://mathaba.net/MNN/www.skype-ne...aba.net/MNN/www.skype-news.com/item/?x=537538
This shows up until 08/2006
Regarding QoS, I am not sure if you all have tried Skype, but in many instances the voice and sound quality is quite good. What's more Skype has had over 300 million downloads of their software, so what's the future R&D spend going to look like? and what's the chance they develop better codecs and QoS
If it is growing at a rate of knots then should operators be fighting it?
http://mathaba.net/MNN/www.skype-ne...aba.net/MNN/www.skype-news.com/item/?x=537538
This shows up until 08/2006
Regarding QoS, I am not sure if you all have tried Skype, but in many instances the voice and sound quality is quite good. What's more Skype has had over 300 million downloads of their software, so what's the future R&D spend going to look like? and what's the chance they develop better codecs and QoS
Gatecrasher
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RPM, I hope you've been taken out of context here. You make it sound like these dual tarriffs are acceptable. You are beginning to sound more and more like a spokesman for the major cellular operators and less and less like a consumer activist.
Hi GatecrasherRPM, I hope you've been taken out of context here. You make it sound like these dual tarriffs are acceptable. You are beginning to sound more and more like a spokesman for the major cellular operators and less and less like a consumer activist.
I think you may be interpreting it incorrectly. What I said is that the reason for these rates is for the cellular operators to safeguard themselves against new phones and technologies making VOIP more feasible. This is definitely the case…
I made it clear on many occasions that MyADSL is against any form of shaping or even capping.
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RPM
I found Skype quality very good, never said it wasn't, but perception is reality, and at the moment the networks are doing their best to create the perception its not up to standard.
Don't think they have that many broadband customers for it to be an issue, and they don't offer 3G/HSPDA anyway.
ajax
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They will probably only voice their opinions once they have 3G available. The latency on GPRS/EDGE is a bit much for VOIP.
What is the feasibility of encrypting VOIP traffic to bypass the "scanning" for VOIP packets?
I've never had any problems with running Skype on my PC through GPRS. I might be lucky.
Gatecrasher
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There's not much in the article to interpret. Its just unfortunate that MyADSL is reported as giving the reasons for the dual tariffs rather than its opposition to them.
To the uninformed "just a safeguard to protect against new phones" makes the dual tariff sound like a wise and sensible thing.
This topic was discussed to death a few weeks back here http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=58272. Interestingly enough,
there the Vodacom rep (vodacom3g) flat out denies that Vodacom will ever charge voip rates. However, in this article, we have a Vodacom spokesperson saying that voip users "could be charged mobile Voip tariffs".
Because VOIP data, unlike normal data, has cooties... WTF???
there the Vodacom rep (vodacom3g) flat out denies that Vodacom will ever charge voip rates. However, in this article, we have a Vodacom spokesperson saying that voip users "could be charged mobile Voip tariffs".
Because VOIP data, unlike normal data, has cooties... WTF???
dam
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I see it like going into a shop to buy a loaf of bread and the shop keeper asks "What will you be putting on your sandwich?" You say, "peanut butter" so he charges you ten times the normal price. "I meant jam!" you say, he says "oh, ok." and charges you the normal price.
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Ok I may not be part of the 'uninformed', but 'protect against new phones' only sounds like cellphone companies protecting themselves (thus their profits). Who doesn't want a new phone? Everyone I know, friends, family, workers, all except my mom and grandma for reasons of slow technology acceptance
. And once new phones come out that does it for you automatically, everyone will find a way to load a program on their cell to do it or let their nephew do it for them.rpm just giving the blatant truth in the matter doesn't seem bad at all. The solution which either rests at Vodacom, MTN or CASA (less hope here) is so obvious.