Zuma tapes a 'secret'

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The controversial spy tapes that got President Jacob Zuma off the hook on corruption charges do exist but will not be released to anyone - in spite of a court ruling.

Michael Hulley, Zuma's lawyer, yesterday conceded for the first time that he was in possession of the 2009 spy tapes and transcripts, but boldly stated that he would not part with them.

The existence and authenticity of the tapes have been in question since April 2009, when the NPA claimed that it had listened to them. Many, including the DA, have doubted the existence of the tapes or, if they exist, their veracity.

In March, the Supreme Court of Appeal ruled that the National Prosecuting Authority must release reduced transcripts of the tapes to the DA.

But yesterday, citing a 2009 confidentiality agreement between Zuma and the NPA, Hulley said the argument for not providing the transcripts was simple.

"When we made the representations we sought an undertaking from the NPA to say we would like to make certain portions in confidence. There was an acceptance, with nothing from the SCA frowning on this.

"There was no . SCA ruling to say it was ill-advised for the NPA to entertain such representations," he said.

In April 2009, the then acting national director of public prosecutions, Mokotedi Mpshe, dropped corruption charges relating to bribes Zuma allegedly received after Hulley made representations to the NPA. This paved the way for Zuma to become president.

Hulley labelled insinuations that the tapes did not exist as "preposterous".

He said: "This would imply terrible fraud that the NPA engaged in with Zuma and all the lawyers. Coupled with the fact that the NPA engaged with various government agencies, this would make the [NPA] complicit to fraud."

He argued that the involvement of two government agencies, the National Intelligence Agency and the Scorpions, plus a lack of denial by those mentioned in the tapes, demonstrated their authenticity.

In its case in the appeal court, the DA argued that the spy tapes and the controversy around the way in which the charges against Zuma were subsequently dropped could be put to rest if the matter were deliberated in court.

The tapes allegedly consist of recordings of former Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy and former director of public prosecutions Bulelani Ngcuka discussing the charging of Zuma with fraud and corruption.

But, said Hulley: "In our letter to the NPA we upheld our contention that this remains confidential."

So, the evidence isn't going to be released despite a court order. We just have to trust this scum that they in fact do exist .. so in that case I support Zuma being inpeached for not upholding the constitution

http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/10/25/lekota-defends-call-to-impeach-zuma

The ANC spokesman's criticism of a call for the impeachment of President Jacob Zuma showed his ignorance about the Constitution, Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota says.

"Members of opposition in legislatures, in particular, are obliged to hold the president accountable in ensuring that he respect and safeguard his oath of office and provisions of the Constitution," Lekota said in a statement.

"My call for impeachment of the president has to do with the fact that the [he] has failed to lead the executive to fulfil the ruling of the judiciary."

Lekota told MPs on Tuesday that the president's office had, on Friday, "defied an order, by the Supreme Court of Appeal, to hand over the abbreviated transcripts of the tapes that permitted criminal charges to be dropped or withdrawn against himself".

He was referring to the refusal to release transcripts of the secret recordings which were the basis of the decision to drop corruption, fraud and racketeering charges against Zuma in early 2009.

Lekota called for impeachment procedures to be instituted against Zuma for his defying a lawful judicial order.
 
I think they probably exist, but the content is not sufficient to have led to the charges against JZ being withdrawn, which is why Hulley will never release them.
 
I think they probably exist, but the content is not sufficient to have led to the charges against JZ being withdrawn, which is why Hulley will never release them.

Which means that what a lot of us suspected, that the ANC gave us an illigitimate president, is actually true.
 
What recourse do the DA have? What's the procedure if someone is in contempt of court? Isn't it a criminal offense, which would mean the NPA should pursue it, but if they're complicit in the whole thing...? /vomit
 
Court order = they weren't asking for your opinion on the quality of your argument.
 
I say, there are no tapes! There were no tapes, we all know that. If there were such tapes, they would present them just like all accused present their alibis/evidence when convicted of something they didn't do.
 
I see Lekota has been thrown out of Parliament after refusing to withdraw his comments.

The DA are bashing their desks in protest.

This is directly ignoring the rule of law!
 
Thief, Corruption, rape, murder - Oooooh it was Zuma then that's alright then.
 
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