Windows 7 DSP vs Retail

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What are the limitations on the DSP licenses as opposed to full retail?
 
DSP can only be installed on one machine and lives and dies on that machine. Retail can be installed on any machine, but only one at a time. Retail comes with a box and a booklet....
 
ok my silly understanding and why i wont go DSP ... simply this if you install a DSP version on your PC and you decide to change the motherboard you ****ed! ...
 
If I remember correctly, you cannot do an upgrade with the DSP or even install it on a machine that already has an OS. I may be wrong about the second part. From a license point of view, it's supposed to be sold only with a new PC.
 
adamr said:
ok my silly understanding and why i wont go DSP ... simply this if you install a DSP version on your PC and you decide the motherboard you ****ed! ...
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You used to be able to change components with the DSP version.
 
You can replace components, but the license is linked to the motherboard, more specifically the BIOS. If you upgrade the motherboard then you need a new license; unless the its a vendor replacement for a faulty unit....
 
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you guys are wrong.

One way in which DSP works out nicely is if you have a laptop that comes pre-installed with a 60 day trial of Office 2007. You then just use the DSP license key to activate the full version.

I mention laptop specifically, because most new laptops allow you to do a re-installation from a backup partition on the hard drive. If you ever do a re-installation, just do a restore from this partition. Besides the advantages of not having to install hundreds of drivers etc, and having your Windows copy activated already, you also get a fresh 60 day trial version of Office 2007. You can then re-enter your DSP license and activate office.

Also, MS are not completely anal when it comes to changing of your motherboard, hard drive, RAM etc. If you need to re-install on new hardware, you can phone the MS help line and they will help you out. I know a few people who have done this with DSP licenses.
 
ToxicWazte said:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you guys are wrong.

One way in which DSP works out nicely is if you have a laptop that comes pre-installed with a 60 day trial of Office 2007. You then just use the DSP license key to activate the full version.

I mention laptop specifically, because most new laptops allow you to do a re-installation from a backup partition on the hard drive. If you ever do a re-installation, just do a restore from this partition. Besides the advantages of not having to install hundreds of drivers etc, and having your Windows copy activated already, you also get a fresh 60 day trial version of Office 2007. You can then re-enter your DSP license and activate office.

Also, MS are not completely anal when it comes to changing of your motherboard, hard drive, RAM etc. If you need to re-install on new hardware, you can phone the MS help line and they will help you out. I know a few people who have done this with DSP licenses.
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I am 100% sure and definitely not wrong ;) MS may help you out but its not legal; people do it all the time though (you do not even have to talk to somebody, you can just call the activation centre).

WRT to the laptops, the recovery partition and trial software has nothing to do with the DSP license....
 
DSP is cheaper too, I would buy it and just use it on 1 PC ;) Even if I change PC or whatever... so long it's "my 1 PC" :)
 
Conradl said:
I am 100% sure and definitely not wrong ;) MS may help you out but its not legal; people do it all the time though (you do not even have to talk to somebody, you can just call the activation centre).
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Maybe you would like to provide some proof? Coz I've heard otherwise. Not saying you lying, but it would be nice to know for sure, instead of just taking some guys word for it.

Conradl said:
WRT to the laptops, the recovery partition and trial software has nothing to do with the DSP license....
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It does. You cannot activate a Retail, or Volume license installation using the DSP license key. However, you can do this with the 60 day trial software loaded with most laptops.
 
adamr said:
ok my silly understanding and why i wont go DSP ... simply this if you install a DSP version on your PC and you decide to change the motherboard you ****ed! ...
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I have called them before and told them that my motherboard died within the warranty period and was swapped out and they then approved the re-installation and re-activation. They are pretty lenient.
 
Why not got with the upgrade license they are effectively the full retail version and are only slightly more than the DSP license.
 
ToxicWazte said:
Maybe you would like to provide some proof? Coz I've heard otherwise. Not saying you lying, but it would be nice to know for sure, instead of just taking some guys word for it.
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From the EULA:

INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That device is the “licensed device.” A hardware partition is considered to be a separate device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.
b. Number of Users. Except as provided in the Device Connections (all editions), Remote Access Technologies (Home Basic and Home Premium editions) and Other Access Technologies (Ultimate edition) sections below, only one user may use the software at a time.
c. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may use only one version at one time. If manufacturer or installer provides you with a one-time selection between language versions, you may use only the one language version you select.




ToxicWazte said:
It does. You cannot activate a Retail, or Volume license installation using the DSP license key. However, you can do this with the 60 day trial software loaded with most laptops.
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The trial software has nothing to do with the DSP/OEM license and does not differentiate DSP/OEM/Retail. It's simply trial software that the OEM has installed on the system. I could sell a PC with trials of Autocad; it would have no connection to the OS DSP EULA.
 
Garyvdh said:
I have called them before and told them that my motherboard died within the warranty period and was swapped out and they then approved the re-installation and re-activation. They are pretty lenient.
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That's not MS being lenient, that's MS following the rules :) The OEM license agreement states that a MOBO can be replaced if it is faulty (the OEM or system builder has this agreement with MS).

In fact, if you ever need to reinstall the OS and run into problems, then your reason for requesting activation should be: "My MOBO blew up and was replaced with the current equivalent by OEM warrenty".
 
Conradl said:
That's not MS being lenient, that's MS following the rules :) The OEM license agreement states that a MOBO can be replaced if it is faulty (the OEM or system builder has this agreement with MS).

In fact, if you ever need to reinstall the OS and run into problems, then your reason for requesting activation should be: "My MOBO blew up and was replaced with the current equivalent by OEM warrenty".
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I'm not talking about the same mobo or the same type. I'm talking about a completely different mobo. In fact... I have had computers die and I have installed the DSP on a completely different computer. I felt it was my right since I wasn't using it on more than one computer.
 
Garyvdh said:
I'm not talking about the same mobo or the same type. I'm talking about a completely different mobo. In fact... I have had computers die and I have installed the DSP on a completely different computer. I felt it was my right since I wasn't using it on more than one computer.
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LOL, will send you the bill Gary if this aint the case, gonna buy the DSP

PS: location: district 9... LOL!
 
Garyvdh said:
I'm not talking about the same mobo or the same type. I'm talking about a completely different mobo. In fact... I have had computers die and I have installed the DSP on a completely different computer. I felt it was my right since I wasn't using it on more than one computer.
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Questions have been raised about the legality of the restrictions of the DSP licenses.
 
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