What is your definition of help lightscribe?
Not yours.
I am almost 100% certain israel don't want anything to do with the war in syria.
Can't help yourself, can you? The need to obfuscate is strong with you...
They don't want to give anyone the excuse to attack them.
They don't want anyone to draw them into the fight, yes.
Assad is a crazy a man though, the only way he could be removed is by using chemical weapons, that has not helped him achieve his goal so the crazy madman assad must attack israel to ensure he is toppled now. That is logic for you i guess.
Assad is not crazy. He's fighting for his life. Again, he or his staff allowed the use of chemical weapons, perhaps because in urban warfare, when losing ground, the best option in their opinion, was to use that, which could kill in every nook and cranny.
http://rt.com/news/chemical-weapons-rebels-captives-632/
Some propaganda i assume. Seems convenient they were captive over heard the conversation and then were let go. So much BS and possible lying it's hard to tell WTF is going on but i don't buy into this story. Sounds as bad as curveball but then again curveball was supposedly the reason the US went to war in iraq. This could be considered undeniable i guess. They are not keeping it secret though. Whether it is the truth i got no idea.
Best not to give more credit to two ex captives, than all the other data, from various countries...
From that link, the "Washington Post" link in the text, mentions this:
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is an offshoot of Jabhat al-Nusra, which the United States designates a terrorist organization, and is linked to al-Qaeda in Iraq. The group has provoked rebels and residents alike as it tightens its grip on northern Syria. The town of Manbij, in Aleppo province, held several demonstrations last week demanding the expulsion of the Islamic State, which rose to prominence after public-execution videos were posted online.
“They didn’t come to Syria to help the revolution. They stay in the liberated areas and try to take power,” Mokdad said.
Mohammed Faizou, a rebel with the Ansar al-Din Battalion in coastal Latakia province, said that while the jihadist Jabhat al-Nusra “fights the regime and does not interfere with others,” the largely foreign Islamic State fighters “interfere with everything” and are preoccupied with imposing Islamic law.
al nusra are a branch of the
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, not the other way around, as the article mistakenly claims.
It seems to be the strategy, for the al nusra fighters to engage the regime, whilst the Islamic State of Iraq personnel do the imposing of Islamic law in secured areas. Yet, as your next link below, shows, "nothing is as it seems." The "loot" is the downfall of radical Islam...
"After Bashar falls, I see the FSA battalions dividing into three parts. Some will go home to their previous lives, some will join us in establishing the rule of sharia, and a third part will become a sahwa and turn and fight us."
More feared even than the threat of an "awakening", is the risk of splits among the jihadi fighters themselves. In another part of the eastern countryside, I met a senior al-Nusra commander whose self-confident, jihadi way of speaking deserted him as he pondered the difficulties facing his group.
"I expected clashes with everyone: with the tribes, with the FSA, with anyone," he said. "But with other jihadis? I never thought that day would come."
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Back at the oil company headquarters in Shadadi, the workers were discussing their new leaders in the shade of a corrugated metal sheet.
"We got rid of one despot [Bashar] and replaced him with another," one man told a young technician who had given his oath to al-Nusra, and thereby been allowed to keep his job.
"As in every place, there are good people and bad people," responded the technician.
"Why is it all right for you to take all the wheat silos and leave none for others?" the first man asked, bitterly.
"Because al-Nusra are the best to rule, and we can take care of the wheat," said the technician.
"Wallah [truly]," responded the man, "al-Nusra takes a cut of everything here – even the air that we breathe."
Excellent link. Definitely recommended reading.
All depends on how bad the blood is between the former enemies. And even if they do join they will not have the unity of battle-hardened fanatics that have a common goal.
Their common goal is the "loot"...I think a little extra push is needed, to get the radicals to hate each other even more. A few well timed assassinations and we could have fun watching the radicals go at each other...
@thestaggy, I didn't say they aren't an issue, or that it's of negligible importance, just that killa seems to have this odd hop-skip-and-jump equation in his head where the moment Assad falls these demented Islamists will take over and turn it into Afghanistan 2.0. He's skipping everything that could potentially happen in between.
That's why I said a more low-key period of protracted tension seems more likely to me. If secular rebels and Islamist rebels start fighting the civil war will just be extended on a different front. But Al-Nusra won't simply march into Damascus willy-nilly, take over the government in its totality and implement its own brutal brand of Shariah law. It's also quite probable that you will have fallouts erupting between the different Islamist groups. They're being held together because they're all opposed to Assad, not because their cause or ideologies are identical.
Yes, with all that lovely "loot", they will end up killing each other quite a bit. Pin them down to certain areas where they will kill each other for the "loot", then at a point in time, when their attention is mostly on each other, move in on them from all sides and eradicate as many as possible. Rinse and repeat.
They had no support to drop 40000 bombs on libya and enforce a regime change. Limited in scope and protect civilians. Resolution meaning to the US, bomb the shyte out of them.
Gary let's not argue/debate, just put forward how you see it playing out.
No support you say?
On 19 March 2011, a multi-state coalition began a military intervention in Libya to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, which was taken in response to events during the Libyan civil war,[18] and military operations began, with US and British naval forces firing over 110 Tomahawk cruise missiles,[19] the French Air Force, British Royal Air Force, and Royal Canadian Air Force[20] undertaking sorties across Libya and a naval blockade by Coalition forces.[21] Air strikes against Libyan Army tanks and vehicles by French jets were since confirmed.[22][23] The official names for the interventions by the coalition members are Opération Harmattan by France; Operation Ellamy by the United Kingdom; Operation Mobile for the Canadian participation and Operation Odyssey Dawn for the United States.[24]
From the beginning of the intervention, the initial coalition of Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, Spain, UK and US[25][26][27][28][29] expanded to nineteen states, with newer states mostly enforcing the no-fly zone and naval blockade or providing military logistical assistance. The effort was initially largely led by France and the United Kingdom, with command shared with the United States. NATO took control of the arms embargo on 23 March, named Operation Unified Protector. An attempt to unify the military command of the air campaign (whilst keeping political and strategic control with a small group), first failed over objections by the French, German, and Turkish governments.[30][31] On 24 March, NATO agreed to take control of the no-fly zone, while command of targeting ground units remains with coalition forces.[32][33][34] The handover occurred on 31 March 2011 at 06:00 UTC (08:00 local time). NATO flew 26,500 sorties since it took charge of the Libya mission on 31 March 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya
Oh yes, you're crying that gadaffiduck did not give his support...shame.
No, let's argue/debate, not just put forward how you see it playing out.
Indeed. Sadly you have t care about jihadists gary. Look at iraq, 1000 dead a month. Sadly you have to factor them in.
Sadly for you, nope. Go beg somewhere else for "care" for your jihadists...
