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Thread: The Huawei E5186 LTE-A discussion thread

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    Default The Huawei E5186 LTE-A discussion thread

    With LTE Advanced becoming more mainstream, and due to the benefits of the advanced spec, it's obvious that this will be the next big router after the infamous B593.

    I thought it apt to create a consolidated information thread in the same vain as the very successful B593 one.

    First off, one (ideally) needs to be within LTE-A coverage:



    Source [updated 19 May 2015]

    The E5186 can be used for LTE reception on prepaid. Thanks for confirming @MtnUser. On postpaid it is suspected that only LTE-A will be allowed with fallback to 3G, not LTE (severe limitation).

    On to the new LTE-A router from Huawei:


    Image credit: maxwireless.de


    Image credit: maxwireless.de

    YouTube (German unfortunately): http://youtu.be/X4W-Z1r3EFo

    All sub models of the E5186 will be discussed here. On that note, let's introduce the B5186 family:

    The Huawei E5186 4G LTE CPE Router currently has available sub models in the form of the HUAWEI E5186s-22a and the E5186-61a (being sold by Telkom stores). They are designed to meet the 4G LTE-A (LTE Advanced) requirements for different markets. They incorporate similar configuration and even have the same functions.

    Source: []

    Confirmed sub-model listing *updated 14 March 2015*:

    Huawei E5186S-61a:
    4G LTE FDD: FDD 700/1800/2600MHz
    4G LTE TDD: 2300MHz  
    3G UMTS/WCDMA: 2100/900Mhz 
    2G GPRS/GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

    Huawei E5186S-22:
    4G LTE FDD DD800/900/1800/2100/2600MHz, TDD 2600MHz 3G UMTS/WCDMA: 2100/900Mhz
    2G GPRS/GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

    Telkom will issue the E5186s-61a. This will be the "super model" akin to the B593s-601.

    Vodafone B4000 will be a rebranded E5186s-22a.

    MTN ShareLink (black) will be rebranded E5186s-22a.

    Unlike the overwhelming sub-models for the B593, it looks like the E5186 will only have two sub models which cover all the major bands and service providers. Vodacom and MTN will rebrand as above.

    Marketing blurb:

    Huawei E5186 LTE router with LTE-Advanced Category 6 offers up to 300 MBit / s in downlink (sic), it works for both LTE FDD and TDD networks with different LTE frequencies, and it is also 3G & 2G Network backward compatible (sic). The Huawei E5186 4G LTE CPE Wireless Gateway has four LAN ports on the back are now working at gigabit speed, the WLAN module now supports the standards 802.11a/b/g/n/ac and thus allows wireless transmission rates of up to 1.3 gigabits / s Thus, the high speeds of LTE-Advanced can also use easily on the terminal, it supports up to 64 devices access to internet simultaneously (sic).

    Features:

    PORTS:

    * 4 RJ45(GE) interface
    * 2 RJ11 Interface
    * 1 USB host interface

    FUNCTIONS:

    * Firewall, CS Voice, VoIP, VoLTE, TR069 Remote Management
    * HTTP Online Upgrade, QoS, USB Share, UPnP
    * IPV6, DLNA, Fax, Print, VPN
    * WiFi 802.11b/g/n/ac, 2.4GHz/5GHz, up to 64 devices
    * Additional antenna location: two antenna ports


    Transmission speed 4G (MAX)

    4G/LTE FDD: Downstream: 300Mbit/s Upstream: 150Mbit/s
    4G/TD-LTE: Downstream: 224Mbit/s Upstream: 20Mbit/s

    Transmission Speed 3G (MAX)

    3G DC-HSPA+: Downstream: 42Mbit/s Upstream: 5.76Mbit/s
    3G HSPA+: Downstream: 21Mbit/s Upstream: 5.76Mbit/s
    3G UMTS: Downstream: 384Kbit/s Upstream: 186Kbit/s


    SIZE: 194 x 177 x 64 mm
    WEIGHT: 450g

    Operating systems it's compatible with:
    - Windows / Linux / Mac OS
    Last edited by Azimuth; 17-08-2015 at 02:06 PM.
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    Physical differences compared to the B593:

    - On/off switch is located on the back and not the side (this will be awkward for most users)
    - New SD card slot
    - Signal bars depicted as 3 bars and not the traditional 5 bars
    Last edited by Azimuth; 17-03-2015 at 03:12 AM.
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    Reasons to upgrade to the E5186:

    Benefits of the E5186 over the B593

    - Up to CAT6 capability
    - SD slot up to 32GB
    - Mobile app (yay)
    - 802.11ac Wi-Fi
    - Up to 64 users
    - VoLTE support
    - VPN support

    Cell ID is back

    Cell ID together with signal levels and quality via the mobile app:

    Source:
    Quote Originally Posted by MtnUser View Post
    with the hillink api you get this info also:

    pci = 92
    cell_id = 2818050
    rsrq = -3dB
    rsrp = -75dBm
    rssi = -51dBm
    sinr = 15dB
    mode = 7
    Reasons NOT to upgrade to the E5186:

    - Both @tyronewraight and @Mark0501 are reporting disconnect issues.
    - On prepaid there is fallback to LTE but on postpaid there is fallback to 3G and not LTE (this needs to be confirmed by more users).
    - Telkom have stated in their T's and C's that voice is not yet supported on the LTE-A network *edit* @Mark0501 is using VoIP on postpaid.
    Last edited by Azimuth; 17-10-2017 at 01:31 AM.
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    Where to buy:



    Edit: Consumers are reporting being unable to buy the E5186 on prepaid. @MDA confirmed that Telkom Clearwater Mall would only sell on a postpaid deal.

    @MtnUser has confirmed that the above deal has been pulled by Telkom.

    This means the E5186 is currently available on Telkom postpaid only. There are no reports from users of other networks yet.
    Last edited by Azimuth; 17-08-2015 at 02:50 PM.
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    Thanks Azimuth! Will be following this thread closely!

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    /subscribed !

    Thanks Azi, ... all the hallmarks of another great thread, just like its predecessor(s) - great work !

    Please, please someone tell me this device still has a "Force external" option for antenna usage !?
    Last edited by jcheek; 17-03-2015 at 01:19 PM.
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    great idea to start this thread, thanks!
    Last edited by Bundu; 15-04-2015 at 10:53 AM.

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    Thanks for the Thread! I was looking at the B593 but this seems to be a more logical router to choose... Is there any reason to rather use the B593 over this one? I want it predominantly for connecting my PC to my lounge via the wireless to stream content. And then obviously for the LTE internet connection...

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    Anyone figured out how to save/load a config file using the browser interface? It looks like they took away that option, which was present on the B593.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Thanks for the Thread! I was looking at the B593 but this seems to be a more logical router to choose...
    So from this post and your question over on the B593 thread, I guess you are leaning this way ?

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Is there any reason to rather use the B593 over this one? I want it predominantly for connecting my PC to my lounge via the wireless to stream content. And then obviously for the LTE internet connection...
    Right now, the only downsides seem to be the higher price, and the possible danger(s) of The Unknown !

    Price : The B593s-601 can be picked up new for around R1500, whereas the E5186 commands the same price as the B593 recently used to (around R2 499). So a R1000 premium for the satisfaction of knowing you might be able to reap the speed benefit of LTE-A at a future date. The curse of the early adopter!

    The Unknown : The B593 (with its various quirks) is at this stage very well known and understood, whereas there are only a few users with the E5186 at this point, so feedback is only just starting to trickle in ... like this one, which is a slight bummer, if there's no work-around ...
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    Whoop-whoop! I see that Telkom have added LTE-A to their existing coverage map :

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    Not much LTE-A yet, but it's a start !

    Resource : Telkom multi-technology coverage map
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    great keep updating iam following the thread

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    Could you share more about the experience of TM LTE-A?
    What fixed antennae would you recommend? Any tips and tricks - I'm about to order the E5186 and would love all the input possible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzypow View Post
    Could you share more about the experience of TM LTE-A?
    There aren't tooooo many folks with these devices yet, so feedback is still a bit thin.
    Check for posts by MtnUser on this and linked threads.

    The Huawei B593 is the E5186's "plain LTE" brother. Until LTE-A gains more traction, the user experience on the E5186 will be virtually the same as on the B593. Check out some of the links given below.

    Quote Originally Posted by wizzypow View Post
    What fixed antennae would you recommend? Any tips and tricks - I'm about to order the E5186 and would love all the input possible!
    Have a look at this post for some general guidelines. The specific post was about LTE, but the principles are exactly the same for LTE-A.

    Also see these threads :


    Have fun!
    Last edited by jcheek; 02-06-2015 at 09:47 AM.
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    Hi Guys.

    I live in Bryanston. SO LTE signal is great but no LTE-Advanced yet.

    I got the Telkom demo company to come do a demo. Lady brought both Routers, LTE(Huawei B593 LTE ) and LTE-A (Huawei E5186S).

    LTE was good speeds according to speedtest.net. LTE-A only seemed to pick up signal with those bunny ears connected.
    However on two different tests, the LTE-A got close enough to the LTE speed.

    Which brings me to my question.

    Can i still get the LTE-A router and use it as backward compatible device for the LTE signal? while i wait for telkom to upgrade the LTE towers to LTE-A.



    Also what effect would an antenna installation have on such said speeds.

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