Intel versus AMD

Aye.

The rivalry between Intel and AMD is great for consumers and like most things it goes in waves where one is better than the other. My personal pref is still Intel but there are times when I've almost bought a AMD because they were a better chip at the time but I normally hold off till the next generation. :D
 
I had a few AMD's before, but in general the older I get, the more I just buy Intel. I do not overclock anymore and I am too lazy to tweak my hardware anymore. So I just buy Intel in general these days.
 
Would have hoped that AMD launched a new series of improved CPU's this year... I think they are loosing a big market share because ATM Intel is just a better CPU with better market awereness..
 
First off, that article was seriously biased. Several Intel chips are mentioned while there is only mention of one AMD chip.
And yes, while Intel definately has the fastest chips out there at the moment, you do pay a premium for it. Price vs performance is usually where AMD is very good, and this is what most people want - highest preformance for the lowest cost. And its not as if normal users will ever see real world gains from the high end Intel chips anyway.
Finally, AMD is releasing several new chips in the coming year, like the Phenom 975, and revised versions of most of the rest of the Phenom line with better power efficiency (something that has been a minus point for them).
Anyway, as long as they keep fighting it out, it's good news for us :D
 
Archer said:
First off, that article was seriously biased. Several Intel chips are mentioned while there is only mention of one AMD chip.
And yes, while Intel definately has the fastest chips out there at the moment, you do pay a premium for it. Price vs performance is usually where AMD is very good, and this is what most people want - highest preformance for the lowest cost. And its not as if normal users will ever see real world gains from the high end Intel chips anyway.
Finally, AMD is releasing several new chips in the coming year, like the Phenom 975, and revised versions of most of the rest of the Phenom line with better power efficiency (something that has been a minus point for them).
Anyway, as long as they keep fighting it out, it's good news for us :D
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+1. If you want raw performance there is no denying it, but Intel. If you want a good price:performance ratio then go AMD.

As for the new Phenoms, would be nice to see something that doesn't chew so much power.
 
porchrat said:
+1. If you want raw performance there is no denying it, but Intel. If you want a good price:performance ratio then go AMD.

As for the new Phenoms, would be nice to see something that doesn't chew so much power.
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Well I know the 965 has already been revised and is at 125W, down from 140W. Not much but it hepls... And the 955 is coming down to 95W (a full 30W less!) within the first quarter if I remember correctly.
 
Archer said:
Well I know the 965 has already been revised and is at 125W, down from 140W. Not much but it hepls... And the 955 is coming down to 95W (a full 30W less!) within the first quarter if I remember correctly.
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One of the machines in the office runs an original Phenom (the ones after the memory bug so it doesn't have that L3 cache problem at least) and it chews 125W. I always think to myself... wow that thing is like a small kettle running ALL day.

It is actually pretty fast though and at the time it cost about as much as a core2duo and those core2duo's were scoring lower in the benchmarks by a considerable margin.

I also ONLY purchase AMD laptops because honestly you can get a TurionX2 or AthlonX2 laptop with those HD Radeon 3000 series GPUs in them for like R4000 retail with Windows 7 (OK Home Basic but still better than Vista). There is no Intel laptop that I know of that can compete with that. Thing comes with a 160 - 250GB drive depending on who you buy from and at least 1GB RAM.
 
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Porchrat you realize 125w is what it will use when running at 100% over all 4 cores right?

It does not idle at 125w dude. I highly doubt an office machine is running the cpu full blast for the entire day but anyhow.
 
killadoob said:
Porchrat you realize 125w is what it will use when running at 100% over all 4 cores right?

It does not idle at 125w dude. I highly doubt an office machine is running the cpu full blast for the entire day but anyhow.
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I know I am not retarded lol. :p

I am just saying that an Intel CPU (arguably doing more work than the AMD CPU) will probably be consuming less power per calculation.

Actually we do batch runs on it that go for sometimes 6-8 hours at a time. So it does run pretty hard.
 
porchrat said:
One of the machines in the office runs an original Phenom (the ones after the memory bug so it doesn't have that L3 cache problem at least) and it chews 125W. I always think to myself... wow that thing is like a small kettle running ALL day.
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Nice thing with all the new CPU's coming out is how they'll automatically lower their clocks. I know my CPU idles at 800mhz when I'm browsing the web or doing similar un-exciting tasks. Actually curious to find out exactly how much of an effect this has. Maybe its time to spend some of my non existant money on a power meter

porchrat said:
I know I am not retarded lol. :p
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And this made me lol :D

PS - if you really want to have a heater inside your case, get the new Nvidia GPU's when they finally come out. Supposedly they'll draw around 250W+ for the single chips versions :eek:
 
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Archer said:
And this made me lol :D

PS - if you really want to have a heater inside your case, get the new Nvidia GPU's when they finally come out. Supposedly they'll draw around 250W+ for the single chips versions :eek:
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Dude talk about heat I bought one of the first Radeon 4850s when they hit South Africa. Remember how awesomely world-changing that card was?

Anyway that card had fan issues. Turns out it is faulty firmware that ensures that the fan does not come on at all regardless of the card's temp. The card was idling at around 85C :wtf:. It was decided not to part with the card because no one was prepared to fork out for another temporary replacement card (even an el cheapo) to run in it's place while we waited for the replacement or a repair (we were not permitted to flash it ourselves without voiding the warranty...wow these guys are unreasonable :p) . So I ended up writing a little script that keeps it cool as it runs instead and it hasn't given a lick of trouble...well... not yet.
 
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killadoob said:
You should have just riva tuner and set the fan speed :D
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Uh yea let me know when they bring out a Linux variant.

Besides the script checks the temp and adjusts the fan speed as required. I am not so sure Riva can do that (could be wrong as I have never had a reason to use Riva)
 
When I bought my E7400 I later installed CPU-Z to check the operating specs, and almost returned the thing when I found it was running at half the rated speed ;)

The only problem with all these nice new shiny CPU's is they cost money :(
 
Intel all the way for me. I have a Core 2 Duo E6750. Had it for two years now and I'm still very happy.

The only problem with all these nice new shiny CPU's is they cost money :(
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Yes but it is money well spend. I often think that my computer is one of the cheapest things I own, if I consider how much I use it for.
 
Viva said:
Yes but it is money well spend. I often think that my computer is one of the cheapest things I own, if I consider how much I use it for.
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+1
Definately going to apply this thinking the next time I upgrade so that I can spend more :D
 
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