1 in 4 SA men 'rapists'

Survey: 1 in 4 South African Men Admit They Raped Someone

mg.co.za — The study, by the country's Medical Research Council, also found three out of four who admitted rape attacked for the first time while in their teens. It said practices such as gang rape were common because they were considered a form of male bonding.

Are these people for real?
Gang rape is a form of male bonding?
OMG!
Where was this survey taken?
In the jungle perhaps?
Are these animals or human beings that were the subjects of the survey?

The articale says they sampled people from different socio economic backgrouds. So I work with about 40 guys and 10 of them are rapists. And 6 out of those 10 have raped another man or boy.
We know that stats can reflect whatever you want but this survey is complete horsecrap.
 
The articale says they sampled people from different socio economic backgrouds. So I work with about 40 guys and 10 of them are rapists. And 6 out of those 10 have raped another man or boy.
We know that stats can reflect whatever you want but this survey is complete horsecrap.

Do you work with any females perhaps?
If you do, can you ask them if any of them have been raped?
And the men : Have they perhaps raped another man or boy?

I would suggest that you discuss this statistic and the article with the parties first before you ask the question. Some might be offended.
Can't we start a poll to find our own statistics on this matter?
I would like to do it, but do not know how.

On this forum we might be able to find better statistics that does not make us look so bad.
It would also not be scientific as only those with internet would be able to take part. The less affluent would not be sampled as you really have to be affluent to get on the internet in this country. LOL!
 
The sad dthing to me is that say 1/3 of woman in this country has been raped.
If they feel like me: Rather think of all men as dangerous than trusting and seeing my ass again.

And that is sad. For me in any case.
i say catch them and cut it off then we can start trusting each other again.
 
You are joking, right?

Rape is a real problem in this country and you don't want them to write about it? Sweeping it under the rug does not make it go away.

I know rape is bad but sensationalising stories is just not on. I'm sorry but rape is not something you take lightly...
 
here's the MG article... http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-06-18-quarter-of-men-in-south-africa-admit-rape

I agree that the stats are probably unreliable, but at the same time I must say that rape, violence and general attitudes towards women in South Africa are shocking.

The government needs to clamp down hard on this... but how is that going to happen when even our president was under suspicion for rape?
 
The right thing for civil men to do in South Africa is to condemn rape out loud and clearly and to teach their sons how to behave with respect.

Rape is not civil behaviour, it is barbarian, what the hell is it doing alongside the microchip and nanotek?

What do I want government to do right away?
Sterilise all convicted criminals.

Furthermore, we want a taskforce dedicated to finding, tracking and convicting sexual offenders.:mad:
 
Lies! 1 in 8 or 10 maybe but 1 in 4 is way over board afiamc I mean really.
 
+ 1 for castration of offenders...

As I understand it rape is a crime of violence, but this journo recons its a act of gender superiority in South Africa

+ 10000 for castration of offenders...
 
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Oh no we're probably gonna get more ads where some celeb moron will call all S.A men rapists(including himself IIRC with the last idiot) :rolleyes:
 
I have never raped anyone.
I guess it makes me one of the three.
I must say however, that it pisses me off to read about generalisations like this.
Charlize Theron once made a add about it on tv.
That add pissed me off no end.
According to that add, most South African men are rapists.

+1

It pissed me off as well. Don't like her for that very reason.
 
http://www.rapecrisis.org.za/support-rape-crisis/

Rape Crisis Cape Town supports 10,000 rape survivors a year.
We have three permanent offices, a 24-hour telephone counselling service, another 24-hour counselling service at the GF Jooste Hospital trauma centre, and support services at magistrate’s courts in Wynberg, Khayelitsha, Parow and Cape Town. We have 13 fulltime staff members and a corps of dedicated volunteers, many of whom would be unable to perform this service if we did not provide a stipend to cover their transport costs.

It costs R300,000 (or about $30,000) a month to provide these services. Our funders include South African government agencies, international NGOs — and you!

Rape Crisis offers confidential counseling, legal advice and other support to victims of sexual violence in Cape Town and surrounding areas. They’re looking for a thousand people willing to give just R100 a month so that they can carry on doing it...
 
You sleep with a chick, all her friends tell her Good God how could you sleep with that guy. Next thing you know, you raped her. Seen it happen.
 
http://www.rapecrisis.org.za/support-rape-crisis/



Rape Crisis offers confidential counseling, legal advice and other support to victims of sexual violence in Cape Town and surrounding areas. They’re looking for a thousand people willing to give just R100 a month so that they can carry on doing it...

A hundred thousand rand a month? And they get a government grant as well?
Good money making oppertunity there.
How many victims do they treat per month?
I heard that there are 2 females to every man in the Cape. Any truth to that?
This might confuse the statistics somewhat.
Or are there more rapists in the Cape than elsewhere?
 
A hundred thousand rand a month? And they get a government grant as well?
Good money making oppertunity there.
How many victims do they treat per month?
I heard that there are 2 females to every man in the Cape. Any truth to that?
This might confuse the statistics somewhat.
Or are there more rapists in the Cape than elsewhere?

:erm:How did you manage to read my post and then still ask questions that were answered in the original post?:rolleyes:

How many victims do they treat per month?
Rape Crisis Cape Town supports 10,000 rape survivors a year.
They have three permanent offices, 2 24-hour telephone counselling services, support services at 4 magistrate’s courts . 13 fulltime staff members and a corps of dedicated volunteers, many of whom would be unable to perform this service if not provided a stipend to cover their transport costs.

It costs R300,000 a month to provide these services.

I heard that there are 2 females to every man in the Cape. Any truth to that?
You heard wrong. For every 100 females, there are 92.4 males.
Which is irrelevant anyway.
 
THE POLICE INVESTIGATION
RAPE HOMICIDE

The Cape High Court recently imposed a life sentence on a man who raped a four-year-old child, then set her body alight to try and destroy evidence of what he had done.

In a ground breaking study into rape in Johannesburg in 1992 and rape homicide in Cape Town from mid-1996 to late 1998, University of Cape Town forensic pathologist Dr Lorna Martin found that violence taking place during rape is worsening.

In one instance, a 35-year-old woman died after being raped and assaulted with concrete slabs a broken bottles, "was inserted in her vagina (and) an avocado pip was found in her rectum."

Martin has called for a national strategy to combat rape and provide appropriate care for rape survivors and their families. She says district surgeons often give incomplete reports because they do not want to testify in court - which means the rape case is often lost. Police officers usually ignore district surgeons who point out similarities in rapes, which would point to serial rape. Because no-one wants more work - South Africa has the highest incidence of rape and the most brutal sexual violence in the world.

Martin called for a national rape protocol to be implemented - this is a guideline for the medical care of all rape survivors. The SA Medical Association also recently called for such a protocol. Martin, a pioneering rape activist, has examined more than 2 000 rape survivors and performed autopsies on 59 women raped and murdered in Cape Town.

The Western Cape has one and a half times more rapes than the national average, according to Martin - and 40 times more rapes than the average European city, "and that is only the reported cases."

She says police must call pathologists to scenes where women are murdered, "where any doubt exists as to the nature of the crime" because in many instances rape goes undetected. Her study found:

* Rape is seasonal (women are more likely to get raped in warm weather) and occurs mainly against young African women by strangers.

* In Cape Town, most women raped and murdered were coloured women aged between 26 to 45 years, of whom 18,6% were raped by a previous or existing partner. They were most often strangled.

* She found that 98,3% of rape homicide victims had non-genital injury, and 55,9% had evidence of genital injury. In four of the 59 murders, attackers had ripped open the women's vaginas with knives. In one case a 23cm piece of black conduit pipe "ha d been forced into the vagina and performated into the abdomen," other weapons included chair legs, a torch, a baton and tree branches. The majority of sex offenders, Martin says, are not pyschiatrically ill. "In a study of a group of male offenders for psychiatric evealuation by the courts, only six suggested an organic mental disorder.

The most common diagnosis was schizophrenia and no ne were charged with murder." Many rapes have difficult to detect genital injuries. In the USA dyes and coloposcopes pick up injuries in more than 87 % of cases, compared to as low as 10% in cases where this equipment is not used, including SA. Martin expresses concern at the rapidly rising rape statistics in SA, from 15 342 in 1983 to 52 160 in 1997, and notes that in 1994, police estimated that the 32 107 rapes perpertrated in that year were only 2,8% of the actual incidence of rape. Perhaps the best incentive to rape is a policing system that fails the victims. In 27% of the cases, Martin examined, the assailants were unknown, of the 73% known to the police, 41% were arrested and 32% were suspects. A quarter were still awaiting tria l at the end of the two year study, cases were withdrawn in 3,4% of cases and only 10% were succesfully prosecuted with one assailant gettting a life sentence, another 30 years, one 12 years, two 10 years and one seven years. And yet in Gauteng alone, every six days a woman is murdered by her male partner, whether husband or boyfriend. And too, the average rapist is either happily married or has a steady girlfriend. Martin began her research quite by accident.

In 1991 as a newly graduated doctor she found employment as a district surgeon in Hillbrow, Johannesburg. In those days there was a daily rape clinic at 2pm at the Johannesburg Mortuary where for two hours rap ed women would crowd together on benches for medical examinations - none could bathe before the examination. She soon realised that the SA Police Service kept no statistics on rape homicides. Martin found that although just under two percents of rapes in Cape Town end in murder, the rape homicide rate in the mother city was 12 times higher than in the USA. But she believes too, that because no official statistics are kept on rape homicide, the crime is underreported. Most women (73%) died in or close to their homes, the rest were killed in a nearby suburb (17%) or at a distance from their homes (3%). Most women were attacked either in their home (31%), while walking in the street (20%) or after leaving a shebeen or b ar (17%). They were also most likely to be stabbed to death (41% of cases) In a similar study from Dade County, Miami 54% of victims were murdered in their homes (and on average were aged 41 years old - an identical age to women killed in their homes in SA), while those found elsewhere were aged around 31 years old (29 years ol d in SA).

Most rapes were committed on women travelling to and form work, with abduction common, some women held for days as "sex slaves." Most rapes were under threat of physical harm and many at gun point. Girls under the age of 16 were more likely to be raped b y people known to them - while 80% of all rapes were perpetrated by strangers. In Johannesburg a black woman is almost five times more likely to be raped than her white counterpart. In Cape Town 60% of those murdered during rape were stabbed, while 22% suffered blunt injuries - including having paving stones dropped on their heads. Of those stabbed 14% had more than 10 stab wounds, but the prevalence of guns has seen women being murdered with firearms rising from 18% in 1986 to 41,5% in 1998.

Medical evidence in rape cases is critical because there are usually no witnesses to crimes of sexual violence and the medical expert provides the only corroborating evidence.

"In 1996 a district surgeon wrote in the SA Medical Journal that because only 10% of women had any medical evidence to support their claims of rape, women who lay charges of rape which are unfounded - because of scant medical evidence should be prosecuted."

In fact, Martin's research shows that false rape reporting is extremely rare, and that a lack of adequate forensic equipment and inexperienced and lazy doctors is more likely to lead to a lack of corroborative medical evidence.
© Speak Out

Rape is a horrifying act. We must do everything we can to condemn it in the strongest possible way.

Civil men don't rape, we know that, we know all men are not barbarians.

South African civil males are a minority.
 
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