2007 Cricket World Cup (West Indies) thread

[BobbyMac]

Kallis average for 2007 is 156!!!
Still not a fan though hahaaha!

Actually it's 170 after yesterday, but that's what happens when you bat for your average

 

[GreatBigMouth]

Let's talk about today's game a bit. It should be an interesting one, but my money is on Sri Lanka. After that narrow defeat against us, they should easily be able to bowl England out for 250 or less.

 

[NaZKuL]

Let's talk about today's game a bit. It should be an interesting one, but my money is on Sri Lanka. After that narrow defeat against us, they should easily be able to bowl England out for 250 or less.

yes but they batting first, so they first gonna have to get that 250...

 

[GreatBigMouth]

Which they should easily obtain. England haven't been in good form lately. Even their victory over Ireland wasn't a very convincing one.

 

[BobbyMac]

Let's talk about today's game a bit. It should be an interesting one, but my money is on Sri Lanka. After that narrow defeat against us, they should easily be able to bowl England out for 250 or less.

I think it hinges on how Sri Lanka bowl. England will struggle if Malinga hits early form, and they have traditionally suffered against Murali. I think a par score for this track is around 240, anything over that will be really tough for England to get, especially if they lose 3 quick wickets early on.

 

[NaZKuL]

...I think a par score for this track is around 240..

educate us on how u worked that out?

 

[.geek]

The damn commentators were loving him! They tried to say that a strike rate of 71 is good. Then they got all the best batsmen of today and yesteryear and found that they all had strike rates of more than 80. Then they reckoned, well it is clear that anything over 70 is good....

Please!!

What is a good batsman then? You people are all hilarious. One below par performance when the BOWLERS let the side down and Kallis is a bad batsman?

Ever stopped to think that Ponting bats at 3 AFTER his two openers get his side off to a great start in virtually every game. How often do Smith and his partner (AB of late) get the side off to a flyer?

Kallis is batting within the first 10 overs so often. We don't have Gilchrist and Hayden opening the innings.

South African supporters are so fickle.

What about Gibbs? Six sixes and then what? AB - 3 ducks. Kemp, Boucher, Pollock: what have they done of late? Let's drop them all. They are useless.

 

[JK8]

I think it hinges on how Sri Lanka bowl. England will struggle if Malinga hits early form, and they have traditionally suffered against Murali. I think a par score for this track is around 240, anything over that will be really tough for England to get, especially if they lose 3 quick wickets early on.

Mmmmm their bowling LINE UP is there strongest at the moment. There batting is excellent but just not firing.
Sangakarra has yet to do anything with the bat, Jayasuria and Jayawardene just woke up in the last game, Thuragana needs a lift to.

Anyone know if theres any rain? This monsoon crap that the Windies is having is not good for the cricket!

 

[GreatBigMouth]

Bobby, I think that par score of yours should be increased to about 270. It's a lovely pitch for batting, and there's no rain to speak of. Should be a great day of cricket.

 

[JK8]

What is a good batsman then? You people are all hilarious. One below par performance when the BOWLERS let the side down and Kallis is a bad batsman?

Ever stopped to think that Ponting bats at 3 AFTER his two openers get his side off to a great start in virtually every game. How often do Smith and his partner (AB of late) get the side off to a flyer?

Kallis is batting within the first 10 overs so often. We don't have Gilchrist and Hayden opening the innings.

South African supporters are so fickle.

What about Gibbs? Six sixes and then what? AB - 3 ducks. Kemp, Boucher, Pollock: what have they done of late? Let's drop them all. They are useless.

Ye lol they fans, not fanatics of the game!

 

[hj2k_x]

What is a good batsman then? You people are all hilarious. One below par performance when the BOWLERS let the side down and Kallis is a bad batsman?

Ever stopped to think that Ponting bats at 3 AFTER his two openers get his side off to a great start in virtually every game. How often do Smith and his partner (AB of late) get the side off to a flyer?

Kallis is batting within the first 10 overs so often. We don't have Gilchrist and Hayden opening the innings.

South African supporters are so fickle.

What about Gibbs? Six sixes and then what? AB - 3 ducks. Kemp, Boucher, Pollock: what have they done of late? Let's drop them all. They are useless.

Well if you think that a strike rate of 71 is good in one day cricket then you are simply mistaken, so stop calling people names and get your facts in order first.

 

[GreatBigMouth]

How often do Smith and his partner (AB of late) get the side off to a flyer?

Well AB hasn't exactly been in great form lately. Duck against Sri Lanka, Duck against Ireland, Duck against Netherlands. Quite disappointing really.

 

[BobbyMac]

educate us on how u worked that out?

Easy...

1 Aus 322/6 50 50 - W day World Cup 25 WI v Aus 2006/07 [2555]
2 WI 219 45.3 50 323 L day
1 WI 177 44.4 50 - L day World Cup 27 WI v NZ 2006/07 [2557]
2 NZ 179/3 39.2 50 178 W day
1 BD 104/6 22 22 - L day World Cup 29 Aus v BD 2006/07 [2559]
2 Aus 106/0 13.5 22 105 W day
1 BD 174 48.3 50 - L day World Cup 31 BD v NZ 2006/07 [2561]
2 NZ 178/1 29.2 50 175 W day

Besides for Australia's 300 and their 106 in 13 vs BD, it comes down to WI's 219 in 45.3 and NZ's 179 in 39.2 which roughly equates to a 4.5 - 4.8 RPO average at the ground, which further equates to around about 240.

 

[NaZKuL]

Well AB hasn't exactly been in great form lately. Duck against Sri Lanka, Duck against Ireland, Duck against Netherlands. Quite disappointing really.

he did give us hope against AUS... there isn't anyone else that can replace him though? loots?

 

[GreatBigMouth]

he did give us hope against AUS... there isn't anyone else that can replace him though? loots?

Boeta.

 

[.geek]

Well if you think that a strike rate of 71 is good in one day cricket then you are simply mistaken, so stop calling people names and get your facts in order first.

Yeah, 71 is terrible. Everyone should bat at 100 runs per 100 balls. Our score of 438 should be the average we aim for.

Stop sitting on a forum bad mouthing one of South Africa's best batsmen ever, without putting his statistics into perspective.

Like I said, Kallis virtually opens the batting with South Africa's highly inconsistent opening partnerships which have plagued them since readmission.

Kirsten/Hudson, Kirsten/Gibbs, Hall/Smith, Gibbs/Smith, Smith/AB - how many different combinations have their been in ODI's?

I'm sure it's easy coming in at 0/1 in the 3rd over and scoring at a strike rate of 100. His role is to bat through the innings.

Compare apples to apples. Because Ponting & co. have higher strike rates, doesn't make Kallis "too slow" for ODI's because of his lower strike rate.

The other batsmen should take some responsibility too. Stop blaming one batsmen. It's a team sport. If you've ever played cricket, you'd realise that there's a lot of pressure batting at number 3 if your opening batsmen consistently under perform.

 

[.geek]

he did give us hope against AUS... there isn't anyone else that can replace him though? loots?

Disappointing yes, but it doesn't mean he has to be replaced. Look at the Australian lineup and their ages. They've been in that team or in the squad for years. It takes time to develop as a player.

He has the potential. He just needs the mental strength of.. Kallis.

 

[GreatBigMouth]

He has the potential. He just needs the mental strength of.. Kallis.

You're really in love with him, aren't you?

 

[NaZKuL]

Disappointing yes, but it doesn't mean he has to be replaced. Look at the Australian lineup and their ages. They've been in that team or in the squad for years. It takes time to develop as a player.

He has the potential. He just needs the mental strength of.. Kallis.

I didn't say replace.. I wouldn't replace him... he's got class! give him more experience, and his ability will build up..
perhaps an individual coach will turn him into a worldclass threat...

 

[BobbyMac]

What is a good batsman then? You people are all hilarious. One below par performance when the BOWLERS let the side down and Kallis is a bad batsman?

Kallis let us down by stalling us during a crucial time in a difficult (but at that stage very obtainable) run chase. Kallis did it virtually by himself. His average shines because that's exactly what he always does. In the SL game, Kallis batted slowly, which was fine because the run rate wasn't out of control, but whytf did he play such a rash shot to go out and cause a mass wobble?

Ever stopped to think that Ponting bats at 3 AFTER his two openers get his side off to a great start in virtually every game. How often do Smith and his partner (AB of late) get the side off to a flyer?

In that particular game [SA v AUS] there was no pressure on Kallis whatsoever. Nothing. Why did he close up shop as if he was trying to save a test match?

Kallis is batting within the first 10 overs so often. We don't have Gilchrist and Hayden opening the innings.

We have instead a batsman with the number one strike rate in Smith. And if AB gets going, he's mustard.

South African supporters are so fickle.

What about Gibbs? Six sixes and then what? AB - 3 ducks. Kemp, Boucher, Pollock: what have they done of late? Let's drop them all. They are useless.

At this point in time there are a few batsmen letting us down, but the bowlers are nearly more to blame for lacklustre performances.